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Post by lillroon on Feb 22, 2020 17:41:21 GMT
Who's to blame? The fans are slowly losing faith the crowds are dropping and we are clearly going backwards. I personally think the owners need to look at their self you walk into the ground and the club shop is is not there because they building a new one but we have no money to buy players I understand they looking for investors but where is the income going ! Thoughts?
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Post by rockstar on Feb 22, 2020 17:45:54 GMT
Who's to blame? The fans are slowly losing faith the crowds are dropping and we are clearly going backwards. I personally think the owners need to look at their self you walk into the ground and the club shop is is not there because they building a new one but we have no money to buy players I understand they looking for investors but where is the income going ! Thoughts? Prob still paying the mangers we sacked off. Looking at it, it was a massive mistake sacking Jay at that time of the season. Owners are to blame for that but since then the managers tactics have been so poor. This team is Johns and Haks and they still can’t work out the tactics. We are full time and we are awful. I think let’s go back part time and try and get the best part time players instead of the full time players that no one wants. |
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Post by lillroon on Feb 22, 2020 17:49:31 GMT
Who's to blame? The fans are slowly losing faith the crowds are dropping and we are clearly going backwards. I personally think the owners need to look at their self you walk into the ground and the club shop is is not there because they building a new one but we have no money to buy players I understand they looking for investors but where is the income going ! Thoughts? Prob still paying the mangers we sacked off. Looking at it, it was a massive mistake sacking Jay at that time of the season. Owners are to blame for that but since then the managers tactics have been so poor. This team is Johns and Haks and they still can’t work out the tactics. We are full time and we are awful. I think let’s go back part time and try and get the best part time players instead of the full time players that no one wants. I agree |
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Post by Bernie on Feb 22, 2020 18:00:21 GMT
Other teams,for being better than us.
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Post by jakeyboi on Feb 22, 2020 18:11:39 GMT
As some one said on a different thread if the players were full time or part time would they play any differently? still play like a sunday morning pub team. Dont forget before Saunders was sacked his record was poor, an most other clubs would of sacked him during his 14 winless run, if anything the club kept hold of him for too long. Now we have these two an it,s getting harder an harder for them, they said before xmas that there sides play better in the 2nd half of the season well time is running out fast an I do not see any signs of the club improving but having said that there is no point in getting rid of JS an HH now, we would be no different to last season, keep them until the end of the season then say goodbye.
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Post by 61666 on Feb 22, 2020 18:33:13 GMT
After all they have done for the club, then it seems very harsh to criticise the owners, but after so many seasons of success, the club now finds itself in the doldrums, with two successive years of mediocrity. Ultimately, the blame for that mediocrity rests with managers, coaches and the people who appointed them. Should fans expect better? Of course, but success in anything is not a gimme and has to be earned.
The trouble at the moment is an overwhelming sense that the club has lost its way and there is little sign of anything changing. Whether that is right or wrong at this stage of the season is debatable, though changing anything now is hardly going to make a difference, unless we find ourselves slipping into the relegation zone - unlikely, you'd hope!
Right now, it feels like the season has gone, with only individual games to play for. I sense there are growing frustrations among the players, who know they are not doing as well as they can. In such circumstances, something's got to give.
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Post by rockstar on Feb 22, 2020 18:41:39 GMT
It’s better to get rid now and get a new manager in and they will have a few months to see who he wants to keep or get rid of. Can’t get behind the managers at all.
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Post by pwoodstone on Feb 22, 2020 19:04:47 GMT
To blame for what?
It’s a sport. Win some and lose some.
Big crowds don’t give you a second right to win games.
If crowds drop away, the Johnny Come Latelys can stay away. I’ll be happier with the proper supporters.
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Post by sword65 on Feb 22, 2020 19:30:29 GMT
I cannot in my heart blame the owners, bringing in JS2&HH was the right move but they were not to know that it would go pear shaped so soon. It would take a brave decision to give them another year but I think they will whether I,or others agree or not.
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Post by loudmouthstone on Feb 22, 2020 19:35:58 GMT
Let’s be clear, the managers aren’t going anywhere and largely because the owners have got what they wanted. Don’t get me wrong it’s not how they wanted it but they had been muting a consolidation season before we had even kicked off. They wanted a cup run and to loose in the play offs. While if things carry on as they are they won’t get either of the good aspects of the plan, they will get the consolidation.
A club of our size with the crowds we get must be expecting to reach play offs minimum and so for me this season has not been progress. That said we had a lot of ground to make up so I just hope more has gotten better behind the scenes than the results would suggest.
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Post by jakeyboi on Feb 22, 2020 19:47:05 GMT
I cannot in my heart blame the owners, bringing in JS2&HH was the right move but they were not to know that it would go pear shaped so soon. It would take a brave decision to give them another year but I think they will whether I,or others agree or not. Sword I think the owners an Bill deserve to take some blame how they handled a lot of the issues we had last season, they handled the whole fiasco of JS leaving badly, they then messed up the replacement I am convinced far better managers applied for this job but they gave the job to the clown god knows why. So regardless of what they have achieved for this club they still messed up last year an now have to pay the price for it, certainly cannot afford another season like last year which is why they wont remove JS an HH any time soon. |
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Post by jdh80 on Feb 22, 2020 20:54:30 GMT
Who's to blame? The fans are slowly losing faith the crowds are dropping and we are clearly going backwards. I personally think the owners need to look at their self you walk into the ground and the club shop is is not there because they building a new one but we have no money to buy players I understand they looking for investors but where is the income going ! Thoughts? If you think you can do a better job then stump up the money and buy the club. I can't understand fans moaning and whinging about owners not spending money, where is this mythical money going to come from or do you want the owners to rack up debts and go out of business with the result being the club folds??? The management team are given a playing budget based on season ticket sales and projected attendances plus a certain amount from sponsorship etc. |
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Post by rockstar on Feb 22, 2020 21:43:09 GMT
Who's to blame? The fans are slowly losing faith the crowds are dropping and we are clearly going backwards. I personally think the owners need to look at their self you walk into the ground and the club shop is is not there because they building a new one but we have no money to buy players I understand they looking for investors but where is the income going ! Thoughts? If you think you can do a better job then stump up the money and buy the club. I can't understand fans moaning and whinging about owners not spending money, where is this mythical money going to come from or do you want the owners to rack up debts and go out of business with the result being the club folds??? The management team are given a playing budget based on season ticket sales and projected attendances plus a certain amount from sponsorship etc. So your blaming the managers? |
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Post by Fed up with PC views only on Feb 22, 2020 22:03:13 GMT
If you think you can do a better job then stump up the money and buy the club. I can't understand fans moaning and whinging about owners not spending money, where is this mythical money going to come from or do you want the owners to rack up debts and go out of business with the result being the club folds??? The management team are given a playing budget based on season ticket sales and projected attendances plus a certain amount from sponsorship etc. So your blaming the managers? There is something missing in the attitude passion confidence and enthusiasm of the players and the tactics look tired and as a result we have lost three in a row. That’s more than just the players fault. But it’s not the owners fault. It’s not the fans fault. So whose job is it to enthuse the players and instill the confidence and give them the tactics to win? Answers on a postcard too............ Just saying. |
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Post by Nick on Feb 22, 2020 23:39:38 GMT
same old, same old, sack the managers, same old, same old, sack the managers
same old, same old, bring back jay, same old, same old, bring back jay
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