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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 8:44:07 GMT
If we have the CCTV footage, email it to Yeovil, so they can identify and ban the perpetrators. The (very) polite message on their website was utterly pointless to idiots like we saw yesterday. If their Saturday hobby is to spent a large amount of money travelling and getting tanked up to stoke their aggression, such pleas are a waste of time. Post COVID, the world seems to be getting ever more aggressive, stoked as it is by dubious media content and we do not need it returning to football.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 8:47:09 GMT
Yeovil warn their own fans about behaviour at games. www.ytfc.net/statement-supporter-behaviour/With a large crowd, all the new young fans and recent crush incident, let’s hope the police and stewards have proper control of the barrier and yellow hatching. Maybe there needs to be more stewards at the boundary and police stood at the front ready to respond, instead of on the stairs watching the game. Prescient, young Barnie. If only the club had thought it through too. It’s easy to be wise after the event. But this happening was just a matter of time. It’s sad that so many new fans, including families with very young kids should have seen this. Some actions for the future: Review CCTV images and both clubs make a joint announcement banning ten fans each. If your only reason for attending football is to make wanker signs at opposing fans, we don’t want you. Let’s make a few examples as a warning to others. From what has been said, we can’t just send police into away fans. But we could nab troublemakers as they leave, or just be a visible deterrence instead of standing on the steps for two hours overtime. For high risk fans, hold them back until home fans have dispersed and curtail the end of match Elvis End celebrations. We didn’t need a conductor to know what to sing at Ipswich and we don’t need one at home. If you’re a middle aged man encouraging teenage fans, stand on the terrace like everyone else. Review the ground layout immediately, or accept yesterday will keep happening. If we haven’t made enough from the cup run to kick start a new stand to resolve the issue, move away fans to the Town End, with a small seated area along half of the riverside.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 9:38:25 GMT
We can’t have 2000 home fans using the north turnstiles. Giving away fans the town end isn’t the answer. Just don’t sell tickets to away fans of clubs that consistently cause trouble and give life bans to the f**king brain dead morons at our club who cause trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 9:51:46 GMT
2000 fans wouldn’t be using the north turnstile, as has been said many times. Season ticket holders would use 8 and 9, which is often not even open. We would continue to use 3 4 5 6, then walk past the main stand, exactly as we do every single game when there’s no segregation. Visiting fans would use 1 and 2. There would be a barrier at one end of the Town End and behind beyond the toilets and some seats along the riverside. Away fans would use the existing exits in that corner. The disused roadway behind the current away end would become a new exit. The pie hut would move to the other end. You can say you don’t like it, but you can’t say it can’t be done.
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Post by jt on Feb 4, 2024 10:00:14 GMT
I had a chat with a someone once at a home game who said that part of football for them was getting drunk and starting fights with opposition fans and police. I tried to ask why they felt they needed to do it but didn't really get a proper answer other than it's just the thing they like to do. Why don't others.
He still attends most away games and pretty much all home games but now seems content in goading younger people into what we sometimes see.
I'm retired now but I've been on the receiving end of roof tiles, scaffold clips and petrol bombs from idiots and it's not something any normal person does.
The Downside is that some supporters see it as a badge of honour. Something to pass down through the generations.
Football banning orders don't work this far down so we will attract people that can't go to premiership games so they can continue
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Post by patm on Feb 4, 2024 10:03:54 GMT
If we have the CCTV footage, email it to Yeovil, so they can identify and ban the perpetrators. The (very) polite message on their website was utterly pointless to idiots like we saw yesterday. If their Saturday hobby is to spent a large amount of money travelling and getting tanked up to stoke their aggression, such pleas are a waste of time. Post COVID, the world seems to be getting ever more aggressive, stoked as it is by dubious media content and we do not need it returning to football. You raise a good point here, because pre Covid, we were having problems with flares and after the commotion at Bromley Dartford and Woking, the perpetrators were weeded out and banned. We were becoming the club that misbehaved at away matches. At Bromley and Dartford, the way we were treated post the agro was noticeable- crammed in and no or cold food. (So, in the case of both, the fight was taken to the town...) Post covid, its was fairly quiet, but the success of the Team has lead to a rise in trouble. In the club, there's no longer the head-count on the staff to seriously scrutinise this problem. Yesterday, how the stewards kept Yeovil out from under that segregation screen was a miracle, however one did breach over the top of it at the back. Undoubtably, the Club will be fined now. BTW, we left late and the police saw some action outside the ground. Considering the message on the Yeovil website the night before, the numbers were few- <300? A polite note has no meaning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 11:33:49 GMT
2000 fans wouldn’t be using the north turnstile, as has been said many times. Season ticket holders would use 8 and 9, which is often not even open. We would continue to use 3 4 5 6, then walk past the main stand, exactly as we do every single game when there’s no segregation. Visiting fans would use 1 and 2. There would be a barrier at one end of the Town End and behind beyond the toilets and some seats along the riverside. Away fans would use the existing exits in that corner. The disused roadway behind the current away end would become a new exit. The pie hut would move to the other end. You can say you don’t like it, but you can’t say it can’t be done. View Attachment And as has also already been said countless time, if it was doable it would have been done by now. Everything that earns extra money is at the town end and putting a fence up isn’t going to keep fans apart. And having home and away fans entering at the same end is asking for trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 12:15:30 GMT
Put them in the Genco and we can have the town end
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 12:59:14 GMT
As they are so keen for everyone else to deal with the problem, give them 200 seats and two void areas around the halfway line in the main stand.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 13:20:16 GMT
As they are so keen for everyone else to deal with the problem, give them 200 seats and two void areas around the halfway line in the main stand. Since you obviously know so much more than the experts they have undoubtedly consulted why not put your ideas to Terry and Oliver and see what they say. Do you really believe they are so stupid they wouldn’t have considered all the options.
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Feb 4, 2024 13:40:35 GMT
We can’t have 2000 home fans using the north turnstiles. Giving away fans the town end isn’t the answer. Just don’t sell tickets to away fans of clubs that consistently cause trouble and give life bans to the f**king brain dead morons at our club who cause trouble. I don't understand why the carpark is a bigger flash point then outside the library. The fact as far as I can see is the opposing fans are far too close inside the ground so you either give the whole stand to away fans or you move them. Doing nothing can't be a option because someone will inevitably be badly hurt soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 13:54:06 GMT
Or the fans just behave?
The same fans who would complain on FB if we have away the Genco, are the ones causing the issues
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 15:34:46 GMT
There’s something in that. One of the better known “Ash out” Facebook twats can be seen in the highlights winding up away fans. After the game I walked headlong through the Yeovil fans making their way back to the ground, snarling “gobby cunts” at home fans. On arriving in town, I saw the same barrier warrior hiding in a side street off Week Street, not daring to face the same people he had provoked, leaving that to people who had nothing to do with the trouble.
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Post by jt on Feb 4, 2024 16:18:09 GMT
Or the fans just behave? The same fans who would complain on FB if we have away the Genco, are the ones causing the issues I got my badge of honour being kicked out of the group for suggesting the blame may be with them
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2024 16:25:07 GMT
Or the fans just behave? The same fans who would complain on FB if we have away the Genco, are the ones causing the issues I got my badge of honour being kicked out of the group for suggesting the blame may be with them The thing is, the two sides will blame each other. Yeovil are saying the Maidstone fans were gobby, throwing coins and holding pictures on their phones of their recently dead ex captain. Maidstone fans are saying it was OTT and they also threw coins and flares also. The reality is there were 300 fans to blame from either side. That means there were 2,800 who weren’t. The blame is only that if you were involved in any of this you were to blame.
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