Maidstone fans injured on Saturday

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Jan 11, 2024 13:43:26 GMT daveu said:

Jan 11, 2024 13:35:23 GMT @johndaubneyslegs said:

Ultimately, the main problem is that we have away fans in what should be the home Kop. The only solution to this is to put away fans in the TE.

I appreciate (I should do by now!) that there are many objections to this, and some of them are genuine problems. But these problems can be got round. If the club really wanted to solve this problem (at least until the mythical new TE 'super stand' is built), they could do it. There is no other viable solution.

Until then, we will continue to have away fans in the best stand, and home and away fans winding each other up - and all the problems that produces.

Stop with this ridiculous argument. If it was feasible the club would have done it.

It is entirely feasible - they just don't want to do it. Possibly for good reasons (ie cost) - but, if they had to do it (NL/FA diktat), it would mysteriously get done.

On the subject of the latter - one wonders just how tolerant the authorities will continue to be. We've now had several pitch invasions and problems with fans fighting, throwing coins, etc - not to mention idiots with flares - but now we have fans injured as well, and one of them very badly. Are they going to continue to turn a blind eye to this?

Imagine if that had been a concert or similar, and one of the audience had come home via hospital with seven broken ribs and a punctured lung... The club would be being sued by now, and almost certainly fined, and the authorities would be suspending performances until safety measures were improved.

But because it's 'only' football - no fuss at all.

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Or, maybe, we'll find the away fans given the whole of the EE at the next big game - and we all know how well that would go down...

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So how would you suggest it’s done then? Are we expecting 2000 home fans share two turnstiles while the away fans get all the turnstiles at the town end. Not to mention access to the clubhouse, the pie hut, etc. Somehow you’ve got a bee in your bonnet about it and refuse to see the difficulties.

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Our bad reputation has reached some in Suffolk.

www.twtd.co.uk/forum/573817/maidstone-allocation/#20

Let’s make this a nice family day out and don’t tolerate the idiots latching onto cup success.

We don’t want or need them.

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Jan 11, 2024 17:16:44 GMT Benny said:

Our bad reputation has reached some in Suffolk.

www.twtd.co.uk/forum/573817/maidstone-allocation/#20

Let’s make this a nice family day out and don’t tolerate the idiots latching onto cup success.

We don’t want or need them.

Shitbags, I couldn't have put it better myself.

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Jan 11, 2024 17:00:20 GMT @johndaubneyslegs said:

Or, maybe, we'll find the away fans given the whole of the EE at the next big game - and we all know how well that would go down...

If we do give an opponent the entire Genco stand then the most they would be able to put in there is 600 as the only exit is up the stairs next to the huts main stand.  For health and safety you can only have 600 exiting through those gates

Why did you think that when Gillingham were given it for the KSC that they were NOT given anymore tickets despite more of there fans wanting to attend.

There were times last season in the NL where I thought stuff having any of our fans in the Genco just give it all to the away team, teams like Wrexham, Notts and Chesterfield etc but then realised that the most we could give them was 600 anyway so what was the point.

The fact that we have the Genco split is the biggest issue with the ground, but the club has grown so quickly on the pitch that the off pitch side of things is still trying to catch up.

If we were to give the TOWN END to the away fans then we would have to reduce our HOME fans to about 1100 due to the reduced amounts of exits that are required by Health and Safety, Maybe less due to the need for one of the gates to be right next to the away fans in the town end.

Waits for someone to point out Wealdstone, Maidenhead etc, yeah those grounds were built back in the 1960's or before, ours was built in 2012, they got at least a 50 year head start in developing their grounds.

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Of all the potential problems with the Elvis End, exits would be the easiest to solve. There is already a disused road sloping up to James Whatman Way that could be turned into an exit. Then there’s the footpath to the park and river where people watch for free in the trees. Finally, there is the new estate where an exit could be placed near the smoking corner.

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So, spend some of our cup revenue on new account exits and give the Town End to away supporters. Simples.🤫

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Jan 13, 2024 8:45:22 GMT @61666 said:

So, spend some of our cup revenue on new account exits and give the Town End to away supporters. Simples.🤫

If it was feasible and affordable it would have been done by now.

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Part of the equation is that we have a few hundred children whose enjoyment of football is all about standing as close as possible to the visiting fans, making wanker signs, chanting insults and pretending that they’re actually capable of, and up for, a fight.

Isolating away fans would deprive these ~200 paying home “fans” of their fun.

Personally, I’d be all for going ahead if it could be done, but the feasibility and cost arguments are real and compelling.

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Alas the bigger and more successful the club becomes the bigger the problems get. I think the owners know this and that is why they want out so that these increasing incidents become someone else's problem to deal with. One day our supporters may well get their wish of being an EFL club and then any enjoyment will disappear as we become a small fish in a world full of great white sharks. The yoof of today may just grow up enough by then to avoid the organised crews that still exist at the bigger clubs but if they don't they WILL get the crap beaten out of them,the police cannot be everywhere to protect the idiots. Thankfully I'll probably be dead and I will not have to witness it.

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I had the audacity to make a comment regarding this when the owners were blamed for it, 'only putting profits first'

I stated that it was not the owners whom invaded the pitch

This got me a suspension from the FB Supporters Forum, which, to counter- I unfollowed, as I cannot be dealing with idiots who have personal rather than Supporters / club interests at heart.

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I was kicked off the FB site last season. Consider it a badge of honour.

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Jan 15, 2024 11:00:10 GMT patm said:

I had the audacity to make a comment regarding this when the owners were blamed for it, 'only putting profits first'

I stated that it was not the owners whom invaded the pitch

This got me a suspension from the FB Supporters Forum, which, to counter- I unfollowed, as I cannot be dealing with idiots who have personal rather than Supporters / club interests at heart.

Getting kicked off the group is to your credit. They simply don’t like rationality.

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Yeovil warn their own fans about behaviour at games.

www.ytfc.net/statement-supporter-behaviour/

With a large crowd, all the new young fans and recent crush incident, let’s hope the police and stewards have proper control of the barrier and yellow hatching.

Maybe there needs to be more stewards at the boundary and police stood at the front ready to respond, instead of on the stairs watching the game.