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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2024 7:47:12 GMT
On paper, the KSCup should be a gimme for Gillingham, as our only league side. They can't be arsed, for all the obvious reasons. Ditto Ebbsfleet and Bromley.
And so should Maidstone.
Allow the KSC to be played for by clubs only below NLS level and it might mean something to those who want to be involved, playing the final in the County Town, at the Gallagher. Properly promoted, it might even be a decent occasion and attract lots of neutrals.
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Post by applesnstones on Apr 4, 2024 7:50:37 GMT
They even pulled some shady manoeuvres to decrease the official capacity, all to keep many of us out. Absolute nonsense.  Something about disputing your account of the away fans experience at my home ground. The official capacity didn't change… Understandably you wouldn't want it played in the middle of potential play-offs but I think it would suit us more if it was played in pre-season. C apacity was reduced specifically for this match, see your club website.
Reduced capacity due to building works in the home end, led to a further reduced allocation to visiting supporters. At least you recognise that your own club's expectation that we would agree to move it to May ( confirmed by Kent FA), was naive at best. It was a good day out, in spite of the conduct leading up to it. You can't continue to treat a club with distain and expect them to agree to a massive bailout, just so that you can field a stronger team, in a final you claim to not care about. |
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Post by applesnstones on Apr 4, 2024 7:58:26 GMT
On paper, the KSCup should be a gimme for Gillingham, as our only league side. They can't be arsed, for all the obvious reasons. Ditto Ebbsfleet and Bromley. And so should Maidstone. Allow the KSC to be played for by clubs only below NLS level and it might mean something to those who want to be involved, playing the final in the County Town, at the Gallagher. Properly promoted, it might even be a decent occasion and attract lots of neutrals. I find myself in agreement with everything said here. However, I do believe that the county cup final serves a purpose for club sides that have faced challenges in the league. I think that's why Ebbsfleet's club statement takes it so seriously. It provides an opportunity to compete for a title, and play unfamiliar opponents, which they might not encounter except in preseason or potential FA trophy / cup matches. Lower league sides also have the chance to challenge themselves. I remember Punjab considered their match against us to be important. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2024 11:13:56 GMT
On paper, the KSCup should be a gimme for Gillingham, as our only league side. They can't be arsed, for all the obvious reasons. Ditto Ebbsfleet and Bromley. And so should Maidstone. Allow the KSC to be played for by clubs only below NLS level and it might mean something to those who want to be involved, playing the final in the County Town, at the Gallagher. Properly promoted, it might even be a decent occasion and attract lots of neutrals. I find myself in agreement with everything said here. However, I do believe that the county cup final serves a purpose for club sides that have faced challenges in the league. I think that's why Ebbsfleet's club statement takes it so seriously. It provides an opportunity to compete for a title, and play unfamiliar opponents, which they might not encounter except in preseason or potential FA trophy / cup matches. Lower league sides also have the chance to challenge themselves. I remember Punjab considered their match against us to be important. Cup competitions preceded the formation of leagues, so they've always had a special place - especially with the FAs. And there was a time when local cups like the KSC were very important. But those days have gone. Now we have professional football down to our level, 24 club leagues, and all the pressure of the Pyramid System and automatic promotion. Clubs from our level upwards have far too much to worry about to need another competition, especially one of no real relevance. I think the KSC should be reconstituted as a semi-pro/amateur competition (below NS). That way, the bigger clubs don't have to worry about it and the clubs below our level have a better chance of winning it. Basically the same approach as the FA Trophy and Vase. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2024 14:32:39 GMT
Absolute nonsense. The Swanscombe End had an official capacity long before that play-off final and didn't change. You got what you were entitled to as the away team and you've returned the favour at the Gallagher when we've played in the past. And you won in the most dramatic way possible, so you'd think the chip on your shoulder might have reduced all these years on by now. Also, let's not mention the reason the safety group wouldn't sanction it being played at Priestfield is your delightful following of little scrotes whose reputation proceeds them. Understandably you wouldn't want it played in the middle of potential play-offs but no reason it couldn't be played in pre-season and neither club is going to raise a team of out of contract players who have long since gone on holiday in mid-May. C apacity was reduced specifically for this match, see your club website.
Reduced capacity due to building works in the home end, led to a further reduced allocation to visiting supporters. At least you recognise that your own club's expectation that we would agree to move it to May ( confirmed by Kent FA), was naive at best. It was a good day out, in spite of the conduct leading up to it. You can't continue to treat a club with distain and expect them to agree to a massive bailout, just so that you can field a stronger team, in a final you claim to not care about. I'm not sure why Ebbsfleet fans continue to try and claim that the conduct by their chairman at the time was OK. He denied a lot of long term fans a chance to see their team at a big game. He got his just deserts. I have no truck to bear with Ebbsfleet (I even came and sat in Fleet fans for a later game against us) but that was silly behaviour by said individual. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2024 16:10:45 GMT
Look at recent images for Ebbsfleet/Southend versus our final. The difference in crowds is huge.   As for trouble, I took a home fan’s place at Northfleet and just about resisted the urge to riot. |
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Post by applesnstones on Apr 4, 2024 17:22:14 GMT
Look at recent images for Ebbsfleet/Southend versus our final. The difference in crowds is huge. View AttachmentView AttachmentAs for trouble, I took a home fan’s place at Northfleet and just about resisted the urge to riot. Were you part of the heroic 20, that crossed the barrier to join us once the rest of the home crowd had left? I thought that was priceless. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2024 17:23:12 GMT
Look at recent images for Ebbsfleet/Southend versus our final. The difference in crowds is huge. View AttachmentView AttachmentAs for trouble, I took a home fan’s place at Northfleet and just about resisted the urge to riot. Yeah; there were lots less at our final because the capacity was reduced on health and safety reasons. |
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Post by applesnstones on Apr 4, 2024 17:35:06 GMT
C apacity was reduced specifically for this match, see your club website.
Reduced capacity due to building works in the home end, led to a further reduced allocation to visiting supporters. At least you recognise that your own club's expectation that we would agree to move it to May ( confirmed by Kent FA), was naive at best. It was a good day out, in spite of the conduct leading up to it. You can't continue to treat a club with distain and expect them to agree to a massive bailout, just so that you can field a stronger team, in a final you claim to not care about. I'm not sure why Ebbsfleet fans continue to try and claim that the conduct by their chairman at the time was OK. He denied a lot of long term fans a chance to see their team at a big game. He got his just deserts. I have no truck to bear with Ebbsfleet (I even came and sat in Fleet fans for a later game against us) but that was silly behaviour by said individual. Because it’s much easier and more comfortable to blame everyone else. The bottom line is that we’re not obligated to move the date, especially not in a manner that compromises our season. Their fans continue to undermine these pleas of nonchalance towards the KSC, by writing more proposals that it is moved to a date where they can field a stronger team. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2024 18:15:27 GMT
Look at recent images for Ebbsfleet/Southend versus our final. The difference in crowds is huge. View AttachmentView AttachmentAs for trouble, I took a home fan’s place at Northfleet and just about resisted the urge to riot. Were you part of the heroic 20, that crossed the barrier to join us once the rest of the home crowd had left? I thought that was priceless. Yes. Despite some aggressive stewards once they figured out who we were. Got my ticket from a family member. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2024 20:15:55 GMT
Link to tickets:https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/dfds-kent-senior-cup-final-tickets-876482391427?fbclid=IwAR2qxPfoOcFMuGoTPfXmCehk-wLl2hroHvof0UDUxq0fWSSGP1eUIER53kw
No mention of segregation.
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Post by fleetadmiral on Apr 5, 2024 23:55:50 GMT
Look at recent images for Ebbsfleet/Southend versus our final. The difference in crowds is huge. Allow me to dispel this conspiracy theory. 2016 - capacity of away end 800ish 2018ish - new crush barriers and underpinning/reinforcing of terracing. Authorities raise capacity of stand to 2000+ 2024 - Southend are allowed more fans Quite simple. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2024 23:56:22 GMT
Link to tickets:https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/dfds-kent-senior-cup-final-tickets-876482391427?fbclid=IwAR2qxPfoOcFMuGoTPfXmCehk-wLl2hroHvof0UDUxq0fWSSGP1eUIER53kw No mention of segregation. I get the feeling there will be 30m between each supporter |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2024 0:42:40 GMT
Look at recent images for Ebbsfleet/Southend versus our final. The difference in crowds is huge. Allow me to dispel this conspiracy theory. 2016 - capacity of away end 800ish 2018ish - new crush barriers and underpinning/reinforcing of terracing. Authorities raise capacity of stand to 2000+ 2024 - Southend are allowed more fans Quite simple. So you are saying that if we played there tomorrow you would allow us 2000 fans,my f**king great fat arse would you, a reason would be found to limit us to 800 again not that we would bring 2000 now that the FA Cup glory boys have disappeared back into the woodwork. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2024 5:34:57 GMT
Clubs with owners who have thrown away £20 million on one promotion and a very small new stand can afford to turn away paying customers.
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Something about disputing your account of the away fans experience at my home ground. The official capacity didn't change… 
