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Post by meerkat87 on Mar 24, 2023 17:42:10 GMT
Let's give George a chance, it's a lower league, and we all know there is a big jump between the two leagues. Those saying he has got no experience as a manager, he's got to get the experience from somewhere, let's see him progress with the stones, at a lower level and build us back up. Coys!
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Post by butlerisalegend on Mar 24, 2023 17:52:32 GMT
Can we all remember Butlers doom and gloom so that we ensure he eats humble pie this time next season when George proves to be a very good manager and a much better judge of players than Hak has been this year. The players George has at his disposal are not good enough for this division with perhaps 3 or 4 exceptions so it is a reflection on his management that he has the players trying and playing better football than we saw earlier in the season even though survival is only mathematically possible. It would be understandable if some players were just going through the motions but you can see that is not the case. The players George has brought in on loan are all decent and would not look out of place in NLS. I am pleased George has been given the opportunity, I trust his judgement and his honesty and look forward to him proving Butler wrong and him becoming a legend. Look I hope George proves me wrong. Nothing would make me happier. Just giving my opinion on a fans forum. Nothing more
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Post by sword65 on Mar 24, 2023 18:42:34 GMT
The owners had nearly 3 months and George is the best option they can find?? When Tonbridge, Dartford and Cray can all afford experienced managers and this is the best we can do it really is a f**king joke and shows how little ambition this club has. No wonder fans of all the local clubs are laughing at us, I would be doing the same if they appointed a manager who hadn't won a league game in nearly 3 months. I really hope I'm proved wrong, but at the moment my expectations for next season are so low I could see us doing a Weymouth. There is of course a chance that George fails and we do indeed do a Weymouth but I would say the percentage chances are pretty low at the moment. Just look on the bright side we could have got Steve Bruce in and guaranteed us doing a Weymouth
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Post by pwoodstone on Mar 24, 2023 18:57:08 GMT
There are always positives and negatives but I don’t buy the fact that this is the cheap option. I would list the pros and cons as follows:
Pros.
Knows the club - no bedding in period Knows the players very well - should know who is up to it Well liked and positive (yeah I know) Experienced at good level of playing Good contacts - presumably The owners know him, what he’s about and his vision
Cons.
Inexperienced at management Inability to get any wins and many positive results at all
You can argue that he has failed the trial period badly or if you have been at the club you might say he has passed the trial with his attitude. We Won’t know if he is the cheap option. It is defo “better the devil you know” situation. For example, I was impressed with Wheeler in his very very early days and can see why the owners went for him.
The owners detractors will certainly say this lacks ambition and is the cheap option.
Those who are more happy with the current owners or at least are willing to see them in a good light, will likely like this appointment
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Post by nws on Mar 24, 2023 19:49:09 GMT
Who are you attacking this time? Attacking. 🤣🤣 Two nervous laughter emojis but no answer to the question. OK.
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Post by butlerisalegend on Mar 24, 2023 19:54:31 GMT
Two nervous laughter emojis but no answer to the question. OK. When I am accused of attacking people from the biggest windup merchant this forum has ever witnessed Then that deserves a couple of emojis
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Post by nws on Mar 24, 2023 20:01:11 GMT
Two nervous laughter emojis but no answer to the question. OK. When I am accused of attacking people from the biggest windup merchant this forum has ever witnessed Then that deserves a couple of emojis So your attacks are real?
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Post by daveu on Mar 24, 2023 21:31:31 GMT
Well good luck George. This shows how bad the other applicants were. George’s experience playing the game at all levels couldn’t be better, his enthusiasm and effort can not be questioned, his fondness for the club is not in question, his tactics could probably be questioned, but at the same time the best tactics in the world can’t turn water into wine! The only thing that I worry about is his ability to build a squad which requires a good knowledge of players available at this level. Let’s hope this works out well in the off season. So in my opinion this is a risk, but I’m edging towards a worth while sensible risk. Is it bad time to mention how well a previous player and manager is doing with a nearby Kent team that wear blue! Over achieving with that budget I would say!!! He won't be building a squad in isolation. As long as we have a half decent scouting network he should do ok.
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Post by Benny on Mar 24, 2023 21:49:04 GMT
Ultimately it’s the owners decision and money. If George fails, they’ll be the ones who pay.
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Post by Nick on Mar 24, 2023 22:17:15 GMT
Not sure what you mean Bernie. If you mean that they will lose money, I dont think so. Win or lose matches, the club is run on a non profit basis, so when surpluses occur, the monies are kept within the club not to line the owners pockets. As for losing money, well that didnt happen last time we got relegated but this time it could be a close call. Whatever happens the owner will neither make money or lose money. As for the future nothing will change under the stewardship of Terry and Oliver. They have given George a vote of confidence and the very least we should do as supporters is to do exactly that. Support George, the players and the club. Too much to expect ?
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Post by jdh80 on Mar 24, 2023 23:00:35 GMT
The owners have a reputation of bringing in young managers Saunders, Wheeler and now George, which is a nice model to have, they lucked out massively with Jay, Wheeler was disastrous and we will have to see how George goes, they are 1-1 in terms of successful appointments of young managers. When the owners went down the experienced route Still was poor IMO and Hakan had his ups and downs (Last season to this season).
In terms of recruitment it will be interesting to see what George does Shonibare has really impressed me so I'd like to see him given a chance I think we might have a young squad but one that are hungry rather than some journeymen who are out for one last payday and put in lacklustre performances (Alabi). I'd like to see a big changeover of players personally, there are still a few I'd like to see with us next season if they fit into Georges plans that is,
George may not be everyone's choice but the thing that stuck out for me was that it seems to imply that he is manager for the rest of this season and next season 23/24, so not a long term project. I'd have liked to have seen the next manager get a 5 year contract and the club have a 5 year plan in place to get us to the stage of a mid table NL team (You know one of the shithouse places like Eastleigh, Boreham Wood, Bromley etc a few years back) which would enable us to develop the ground and then once we are in a better position then start looking upwards, as I believe that with our current ownership and set up we can easily maintain a mid table NL team rather than a NL/NLS yoyo team, oh and take the CUPs seriously as well as that can be a great avenue for extra revenue.
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Post by jdl on Mar 25, 2023 1:20:36 GMT
"Lucked out massively with Jay"??
Is this the same Jay, who, with no previous experience, gave us three promotions in 4 seasons and then kept us in the NL for 2 seasons (a much better record than the Clown and Hak)?
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Post by pwoodstone on Mar 25, 2023 7:56:46 GMT
"Lucked out massively with Jay"?? Is this the same Jay, who, with no previous experience, gave us three promotions in 4 seasons and then kept us in the NL for 2 seasons (a much better record than the Clown and Hak)? Yeah that’s him. Jay Saunders. Played for us then took over as manager and took us up. Now at Tonbridge. Managing them.
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Post by sword65 on Mar 25, 2023 8:53:44 GMT
The owners have a reputation of bringing in young managers Saunders, Wheeler and now George, which is a nice model to have, they lucked out massively with Jay, Wheeler was disastrous and we will have to see how George goes, they are 1-1 in terms of successful appointments of young managers. When the owners went down the experienced route Still was poor IMO and Hakan had his ups and downs (Last season to this season). In terms of recruitment it will be interesting to see what George does Shonibare has really impressed me so I'd like to see him given a chance I think we might have a young squad but one that are hungry rather than some journeymen who are out for one last payday and put in lacklustre performances (Alabi). I'd like to see a big changeover of players personally, there are still a few I'd like to see with us next season if they fit into Georges plans that is, George may not be everyone's choice but the thing that stuck out for me was that it seems to imply that he is manager for the rest of this season and next season 23/24, so not a long term project. I'd have liked to have seen the next manager get a 5 year contract and the club have a 5 year plan in place to get us to the stage of a mid table NL team (You know one of the shithouse places like Eastleigh, Boreham Wood, Bromley etc a few years back) which would enable us to develop the ground and then once we are in a better position then start looking upwards, as I believe that with our current ownership and set up we can easily maintain a mid table NL team rather than a NL/NLS yoyo team, oh and take the CUPs seriously as well as that can be a great avenue for extra revenue. Oh Lord, I beseech thee to protect us from the dreaded five year plan for jdh80 not knoweth of which he speaketh.Amen!
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Post by Benny on Mar 25, 2023 9:01:49 GMT
Every time you hear a new non league owner talking about a five year plan to reach the EFL, you just know it will end in disaster.
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