Around the National League.

[Townend1]

I like the idea to be honest whether it will catch on I don't know

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May 26, 2016 14:19:09 GMT Benny said:

Interesting discussion idea from Dover's message board.

doverathletic.freeforums.org/around-the-conference-t3881-570.html

Get to know the opposition, and maybe even get used to not calling it the Conference.

Conference? Is that the new-fangled name for the Alliance Premier?

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I sense North Ferriby United will be the whipping boys next season..

There owner has pulled funding/put the club up for sale (The Allam family have been bankrolling them for a few years now) and their manager has just quit to takeover at Halifax....certainly not what you want when going up to a higher league

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May 26, 2016 23:59:19 GMT Raymondo316 said:

I sense North Ferriby United will be the whipping boys next season..

There owner has pulled funding/put the club up for sale (The Allam family have been bankrolling them for a few years now) and their manager has just quit to takeover at Halifax....certainly not what you want when going up to a higher league

 I would think that having bank-rolled the club the family may have trouble investing further funds to take the club further.
I see their ground capacity is 2,700 and like us would have to increase that to 4,000
No doubt they are a well run club to get where they have so far.
Funding the growth necessary may be a problem unless they can attract new investors. Any new owner may want a controlling interest and/or the existing owners to vacate.
Let's remember we also gained promotion via the playoffs and may well be considered "whipping boys" by the established clubs at this level.
In Jay, Oliver, Terry and Bill we trust. COYS

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May 27, 2016 7:16:23 GMT @testosterstone said:

May 26, 2016 23:59:19 GMT Raymondo316 said:

I sense North Ferriby United will be the whipping boys next season..

There owner has pulled funding/put the club up for sale (The Allam family have been bankrolling them for a few years now) and their manager has just quit to takeover at Halifax....certainly not what you want when going up to a higher league

 I would think that having bank-rolled the club the family may have trouble investing further funds to take the club further.
I see their ground capacity is 2,700 and like us would have to increase that to 4,000
No doubt they are a well run club to get where they have so far.
Funding the growth necessary may be a problem unless they can attract new investors. Any new owner may want a controlling interest and/or the existing owners to vacate.
Let's remember we also gained promotion via the playoffs and may well be considered "whipping boys" by the established clubs at this level.
In Jay, Oliver, Terry and Bill we trust. COYS

Strange that they could get away with 2700 but we had to get ours up to 3000. I always thought if you didn't achieve the grade for the league you were in by 31st march you couldn't be promoted.

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May 26, 2016 23:59:19 GMT Raymondo316 said:

I sense North Ferriby United will be the whipping boys next season..

There owner has pulled funding/put the club up for sale (The Allam family have been bankrolling them for a few years now) and their manager has just quit to takeover at Halifax....certainly not what you want when going up to a higher league

Up to last Saturday they were the FA Trophy holders having beaten Wrexham on penalties in the final after coming back from 2-0 down. They could be about to implode. That said, I saw them at Guiseley a couple of years ago in the play-off final first leg and they didn't look that good. As I remember their manager had a bit of a whine about the ref.

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May 27, 2016 7:56:21 GMT Benny said:

Talking of whipping boys, do we know which clubs are full time and which, like us, remain part time?

You would probably assume recent league clubs will have a fitness advantage.

These lists appear to be at least mostly correct:


Full time; Aldershot, Barrow, Boreham Wood, Dag & Red, Eastleigh, Forest green, Gateshead, Lincoln, Macclesfield, Torquay, Tranmere, Wrexham and York

Part time; Braintree, Bromley, Chester, Dover, Guiseley, Maidstone, North Ferriby, Solihill moors, Southport, Sutton and Woking


There appears to be a few disputes though, mainly over the fact many teams are 'half' full-time, with some full-time players.

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May 27, 2016 11:35:17 GMT yorkshirestone said:

May 26, 2016 23:59:19 GMT Raymondo316 said:

I sense North Ferriby United will be the whipping boys next season..

There owner has pulled funding/put the club up for sale (The Allam family have been bankrolling them for a few years now) and their manager has just quit to takeover at Halifax....certainly not what you want when going up to a higher league

Up to last Saturday they were the FA Trophy holders having beaten Wrexham on penalties in the final after coming back from 2-0 down. They could be about to implode. That said, I saw them at Guiseley a couple of years ago in the play-off final first leg and they didn't look that good. As I remember their manager had a bit of a whine about the ref.

I went to the FATrophy final on Sunday and have only just seen the goal on youtube having been in the toilet when it went in!

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A schoolboy error, NWS! I was in Harrogate at the time, and the Look North (or whatever) programme insisted on calling them Halifax Town (three days in a row), when I understood that club folded some years ago. Journalists, eh, can't live with them...

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Eastleigh are splashing the cash
Just signed a player who was a regular starter for Port Vale in League 1...

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May 27, 2016 11:39:22 GMT @captainmosh said:

May 27, 2016 7:56:21 GMT Benny said:

Talking of whipping boys, do we know which clubs are full time and which, like us, remain part time?

You would probably assume recent league clubs will have a fitness advantage.

These lists appear to be at least mostly correct:


Full time; Aldershot, Barrow, Boreham Wood, Dag & Red, Eastleigh, Forest green, Gateshead, Lincoln, Macclesfield, Torquay, Tranmere, Wrexham and York

Part time; Braintree, Bromley, Chester, Dover, Guiseley, Maidstone, North Ferriby, Solihill moors, Southport, Sutton and Woking


There appears to be a few disputes though, mainly over the fact many teams are 'half' full-time, with some full-time players.

Interesting that two of the teams to make the play offs last season fall under the part-timers. Definitely gives me hope that if JS can maintain a cohesive unit and good team ethic in our squad a midtable finish isn't out of the question.

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There's two aspects re this full/part-time business. First players' wages - obviously a full-time/pro team costs a lot more to run - but second, and more importantly, there's the training/fitness factor, as full-time players are available all week to train.

To my mind the second factor is the key one. You could have a part-time/semi-pro team where the players were pretty much on full-time wages, for instances, perhaps some were even fully pro, but as long as most players have a day job, the opportunity for fitness improvement and whole squad training are much more limited. There's also the question of long travel to away games - obviously if players don't have day jobs they can travel at times that suit them/the club better, and not have to rush back overnight to get to their main job the next morning.

So, in short, it's not what the players are paid or whether or not they are fully pro or not, it's whether or not the whole squad can train and travel at the optimum times. I'm not worried about facing clubs that have a few star players on full-time wages, but facing a team that trains together all week and has time to develop their fitness, and who didn't just get off the coach an hour ago after a 300 mile drive would be a very different matter.

[mrplow]

Boring wood fulltime? WTF? That's definitely not true.

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May 28, 2016 9:10:03 GMT mrplow said:

Boring wood fulltime? WTF? That's definitely not true.

They went full time early last season.
It was the main reason their manager and a fair few players left.

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May 28, 2016 10:15:36 GMT @hs1 said:

i wouldn't be so sure. people knock them for attendance but they get loads of cash from their arsenal deal and renting out the million 3gpitches they have. allegedly really well run behind the scenes.

I'm sure a few can remember their differently priced bars system