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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 12:32:18 GMT
Well... Sitting here in 34 degrees, depressed - having just watched the 'highlights'. OK, highlights these days are next to useless, as they are too brief to give any real idea of the game, but, all the same... We could have played on until Christmas and still not scored. I hear what people say about the problem being in the midfield, and most commentators on here know much more about football than I do. But what I actually see - live and on video - is 'strikers' being absolutely unable to score goals. Maybe they are getting poor service, but, when they do get the ball, they f**k up EVERY time. It may be stating the bleedin' obvious, but - can't score, can't win. And one point per game average isn't just not enough to get in the playoffs, it's relegation form. Strikers one of the ( not the only) problems from what I see too. Blair looks to have something about him, good pace and feet, needs to time his runs better imo although some of his offsides may be down to midfielders taking a second to long to release the ball. I still think he would benefit from playing alongside a big, strong forward who can hold the ball and lay it off to him. So far Coulthirst has disappointed and Bentley wins the odd flick on but gets knocked over and dispossessed too easily imho. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 12:36:19 GMT
Well... Sitting here in 34 degrees, depressed - having just watched the 'highlights'. OK, highlights these days are next to useless, as they are too brief to give any real idea of the game, but, all the same... We could have played on until Christmas and still not scored. I hear what people say about the problem being in the midfield, and most commentators on here know much more about football than I do. But what I actually see - live and on video - is 'strikers' being absolutely unable to score goals. Maybe they are getting poor service, but, when they do get the ball, they f**k up EVERY time. It may be stating the bleedin' obvious, but - can't score, can't win. And one point per game average isn't just not enough to get in the playoffs, it's relegation form. Strikers one of the ( not the only) problems from what I see too. Blair looks to have something about him, good pace and feet, needs to time his runs better imo although some of his offsides may be down to midfielders taking a second to long to release the ball. I still think he would benefit from playing alongside a big, strong number 10 who can hold the ball and lay it off to him. So far Coulthirst has disappointed and Bentley wins the odd flick on but gets knocked over and dispossessed to easily imho. WSM had strong quick strikers who should really have scored more. If it hadn't been for Greenidge (my Stones MOTM by a mile) then I think we could have conceded 3 or 4. |
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Post by ade on Aug 27, 2024 13:01:18 GMT
If I am the BW manager, analysis and tactics are going to be easy. 2 lumps at the back. Wing backs to flood midfield and pressure the defence into a mistake. It is not going to be pretty.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 13:14:30 GMT
Well having flown 10,000km to watch this game to say I was disappointed would be an understatement. At no stage during the game did we ever look like we were going to score even if we carried on until midnight. There was no apparent game-plan, strategy, movement or inspiration whatsoever. Their keeper had the easiest of days ever with only a scuffed shot from Bivesh in the second half which did not trouble him in the slightest.
On the positive side nice to have the whole Genco stand open (and even some WSM fans were there in the first half) and it would be even better if the PA worked there and there were food concessions under (instead of having to trapse back to the Town End at half time for my obligatory pie). Further, seeing as there is no PA in the Genco, would it be an idea to put the substitutions up on the digital scoreboard?
Anyway, planning to go to BW next weekend so I am genuinely hope for some Damascas style miracle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 19:44:14 GMT
Well... Sitting here in 34 degrees, depressed - having just watched the 'highlights'. OK, highlights these days are next to useless, as they are too brief to give any real idea of the game, but, all the same... We could have played on until Christmas and still not scored. I hear what people say about the problem being in the midfield, and most commentators on here know much more about football than I do. But what I actually see - live and on video - is 'strikers' being absolutely unable to score goals. Maybe they are getting poor service, but, when they do get the ball, they f**k up EVERY time. It may be stating the bleedin' obvious, but - can't score, can't win. And one point per game average isn't just not enough to get in the playoffs, it's relegation form. Strikers one of the ( not the only) problems from what I see too. Blair looks to have something about him, good pace and feet, needs to time his runs better imo although some of his offsides may be down to midfielders taking a second to long to release the ball. I still think he would benefit from playing alongside a big, strong forward who can hold the ball and lay it off to him. So far Coulthirst has disappointed and Bentley wins the odd flick on but gets knocked over and dispossessed too easily imho. Blair would benefit from playing more centrally. He’s not a winger, why are we playing him out wide. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2024 23:02:53 GMT
Strikers one of the ( not the only) problems from what I see too. Blair looks to have something about him, good pace and feet, needs to time his runs better imo although some of his offsides may be down to midfielders taking a second to long to release the ball. I still think he would benefit from playing alongside a big, strong forward who can hold the ball and lay it off to him. So far Coulthirst has disappointed and Bentley wins the odd flick on but gets knocked over and dispossessed too easily imho. Blair would benefit from playing more centrally. He’s not a winger, why are we playing him out wide. Fonkeu and Andrade were going down the wide places. Blair ends up there sometimes due to our whack down the channels play but he is central |
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Post by jackster on Aug 28, 2024 9:48:14 GMT
In your dreams !
You wern't even there !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2024 10:21:36 GMT
Blair would benefit from playing more centrally. He’s not a winger, why are we playing him out wide. Fonkeu and Andrade were going down the wide places. Blair ends up there sometimes due to our whack down the channels play but he is central I’m not sure what Fonkeu brings to the team which is probably why Blair ends up out wide so much. Need to pair him up with Coulthirst in the middle. They looked like a proper partnership in preseason |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2024 10:39:03 GMT
Not a bad call.
There has to be a better way
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Post by edos78 on Aug 28, 2024 11:45:10 GMT
Fonkeu and Andrade were going down the wide places. Blair ends up there sometimes due to our whack down the channels play but he is central I’m not sure what Fonkeu brings to the team which is probably why Blair ends up out wide so much. Need to pair him up with Coulthirst in the middle. They looked like a proper partnership in preseason Fonkeu was our best attacking player at Chippenham - he's not as good a player as the others but he beat his man consistently and put some decent crosses in. It looked like he at least had a plan, while Benton & Blair seem to be over playing it whenever they have the ball, and usually lose it. Overall I think the system is wrong - we give possession away too easily because we have no one to hold the ball up and bring others in to play. And I'm not sure why we play 4 at the back at home against sides that sit deep. We'd be better off having an extra player in midfield. |
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Post by Terry on Aug 28, 2024 15:03:45 GMT
It does appear that this forum contains some potential managers for clubs at NLS level and maybe above.
If only it was that simple.
But if we can see what needs to be done, how come it escapes George and his coaching team ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2024 15:22:04 GMT
It does appear that this forum contains some potential managers for clubs at NLS level and maybe above. If only it was that simple. But if we can see what needs to be done, how come it escapes George and his coaching team ? I think it’s accepted that supporters collectively will have a reasonable understanding of tactics and even the ability to see what’s going wrong on the pitch. What we don’t have is the contacts, the motivational skills and the relationship with the players that a manager needs. Hell, I’ve avoided management roles all my life because I had neither the skills nor the desire to organise and tell people what to do. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2024 18:41:57 GMT
It does appear that this forum contains some potential managers for clubs at NLS level and maybe above. If only it was that simple. But if we can see what needs to be done, how come it escapes George and his coaching team ? I think it’s accepted that supporters collectively will have a reasonable understanding of tactics and even the ability to see what’s going wrong on the pitch. What we don’t have is the contacts, the motivational skills and the relationship with the players that a manager needs. Hell, I’ve avoided management roles all my life because I had neither the skills nor the desire to organise and tell people what to do. Your a lover dave not a fighter |
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Post by edos78 on Aug 28, 2024 19:18:54 GMT
It does appear that this forum contains some potential managers for clubs at NLS level and maybe above. If only it was that simple. But if we can see what needs to be done, how come it escapes George and his coaching team ? it's certainly been simple for Truro, Hampton, Chippenham and Weston to play against us with largely inferior players |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2024 22:37:46 GMT
Only five games in, so potentially meaningless, but here, for what it's worth, is a comparison against the first five games for the previous three seasons (since Covid):
21/22: 13 pts - 4 1 0 - 11 5 6
22/23: 5 pts - 1 2 2 - 6 11 -5
23/24: 8 pts - 2 2 1 - 6 7 -1
24/25: 5 pts - 1 2 2 - 2 3 -1
Fewer points than last season, but the same goal difference.
Same points as our relegation season, but a much better goal differnce.
No surprise to anyone - best defence of the last four seasons (possibly more), but the worst number of goals by some way.
George clearly prioritised the defence when building the squad. My gut feeling is that he assumed that, even if the midfield and forward line wasn't up to scratch, he could rebuild it as the season progressed.
Possibly not a bad approach - given his background and strengths, the difficulty of getting decent players on a limited budget, and his experience last season. And hopefully it will work.
But I suspect nothing much is going to change for the next few games. Buckle up for a difficult few weeks.
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