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Post by sword65 on Nov 28, 2021 9:01:14 GMT
Neither Barham and Grant look the real deal at this level. Christie Pattison looks the best of the 3, but in truth he's a winger who is being forced to play out of position and it shows ! With Jake Gallager, Big George and Joe Ellul all set to return over the next 2-4 weeks, we have strength in depth in most areas of the team. Shame about our lack of quality strikers. Let's go for it and put Big George up front and tell him to put his foot through the ball when shooting, the keepers will shit themselves. |
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Post by daveu on Nov 28, 2021 9:42:41 GMT
Sadly Stewart I have to disagree. What do you base your assessment on about the named players being good strikers ? I do accept the point about none of them being match fit but that is not exactly a quality in their favout. Their combined goal scoring record over the past 3 seasons can be barely registered and looking at them today I am not seeing any potential or even a reflection of past scoring glories. Hak's overall recruitment has been impressive in lots of ways, it's just a shame that it didnt extend to capturing a couple of quality strikers. Still think one or two new signings are needed to complete the squad. To be fair to Hak, I think we all expected Pavey to produce a lot more than he has. |
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Post by steveh21 on Nov 28, 2021 9:46:18 GMT
They are good strikers and most have played at a higher level.. for some reason they cannot score playing for Maidstone. Maybe it is the way we are playing. Thank goodness for the Spanish God.
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Post by jackster on Nov 28, 2021 10:13:40 GMT
Yep agree about Pavey, he has a good record and disappointed.
Maybe his best days are behind him sadly.
But don't really agree with Steve's assessment on Barham and Grant.
Care to support their pedigree by detailing their goal scoring record in the past 5 seasons ?
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Post by 61666 on Nov 28, 2021 10:21:48 GMT
Neither are that tall and while Pavey certainly is, seems we don't have anyone who can cross the ball with any accuracy. Hence central defenders easily gobble the ball up and we don't play it on the ground enough for the other two.
Equally, noticeable that yesterday, Deacon was changing sides and we didn't always use the Love Train either, so maybe they are learning.
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Post by deadly on Nov 28, 2021 11:03:00 GMT
Just spent a while this morning trying to research the goal scoring exploits of Reece Grant and Jack Barham.
Time that I will never get back.
Hard to find but it must exist somewhere.
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Post by daveu on Nov 28, 2021 11:09:41 GMT
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Post by HartleyHare on Nov 28, 2021 11:16:54 GMT
Neither Barham and Grant look the real deal at this level. Christie Pattison looks the best of the 3, but in truth he's a winger who is being forced to play out of position and it shows ! With Jake Gallager, Big George and Joe Ellul all set to return over the next 2-4 weeks, we have strength in depth in most areas of the team. Shame about our lack of quality strikers. Let's go for it and put Big George up front and tell him to put his foot through the ball when shooting, the keepers will shit themselves. I’d be more concerned about the cars in the car park at the Town End. 😮 |
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Post by Dan on Nov 28, 2021 11:46:15 GMT
Dunno about just the cars, I reckon the Rowing Club would need protection !
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Post by Bernie on Nov 28, 2021 12:06:26 GMT
I wouldn’t worry too much about the cars. .  |
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Post by daveharris on Nov 28, 2021 16:42:35 GMT
Agree with you Dave, Daryl showed Reece the door at Dagenham just not good enough and seemed to be the same at Ebbsfleet |
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Post by sword65 on Nov 30, 2021 22:43:46 GMT
Jake Embrey, who wasn't given much of a chance, has signed for the Mangles. Must be worth £5 on him to score the winner Boxing day.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 4:47:54 GMT
Pavey had one good season for Dartford in 2017-18 when he scored 22 goals.
Aside from that his goal scoring record is pretty underwhelming. If you remove that one season from his record he's only scored a total of 21 goals in his other eight seasons in senior football. His second best season was nine goals in 33 apps. for Dover which isn't exactly amazing.
Is it just possible that he is over-rated? I fear his reputation is simply built around one decent season.
We've had this with strikers before, i.e. we sign them and everyone thinks they will score a hatful of goals because they hit a purple-patch a few years ago and have been dining out on the reputation gained from that ever since - the result is usually the same as this, sadly.
The old saying that there are lies, lies and bl**dy statistics is a load of rubbish. In truth, the stats can often reveal a truth about players that nobody wants to face up to.
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Post by Newstone on Dec 1, 2021 8:25:24 GMT
Pavey had one good season for Dartford in 2017-18 when he scored 22 goals. Aside from that his goal scoring record is pretty underwhelming. If you remove that one season from his record he's only scored a total of 21 goals in his other eight seasons in senior football. His second best season was nine goals in 33 apps. for Dover which isn't exactly amazing. Is it just possible that he is over-rated? I fear his reputation is simply built around one decent season. We've had this with strikers before, i.e. we sign them and everyone thinks they will score a hatful of goals because they hit a purple-patch a few years ago and have been dining out on the reputation gained from that ever since - the result is usually the same as this, sadly. The old saying that there are lies, lies and bl**dy statistics is a load of rubbish. In truth, the stats can often reveal a truth about players that nobody wants to face up to. Could not agree more. Pavey is a jogger. Doesn't work nearly hard enough. Living off the reputation from that one good season. I don't think his attitude is right (my eldest boy knows him) To be fair to the lad he has had a bad luck with injuries but I really don't rate him. More to the point Hak does not rate him and he was a club buy not Hak's. I'd say loan him out to lower standard club to see if he has still got it. |
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Post by 1018 on Dec 1, 2021 9:06:19 GMT
Pavey had one good season for Dartford in 2017-18 when he scored 22 goals. Aside from that his goal scoring record is pretty underwhelming. If you remove that one season from his record he's only scored a total of 21 goals in his other eight seasons in senior football. His second best season was nine goals in 33 apps. for Dover which isn't exactly amazing. Is it just possible that he is over-rated? I fear his reputation is simply built around one decent season. We've had this with strikers before, i.e. we sign them and everyone thinks they will score a hatful of goals because they hit a purple-patch a few years ago and have been dining out on the reputation gained from that ever since - the result is usually the same as this, sadly. The old saying that there are lies, lies and bl**dy statistics is a load of rubbish. In truth, the stats can often reveal a truth about players that nobody wants to face up to. Could not agree more. Pavey is a jogger. Doesn't work nearly hard enough. Living off the reputation from that one good season. I don't think his attitude is right (my eldest boy knows him) To be fair to the lad he has had a bad luck with injuries but I really don't rate him. More to the point Hak does not rate him and he was a club buy not Hak's. I'd say loan him out to lower standard club to see if he has still got it. We have, he is on loan at Dover and played the first 63 minutes of their game on Saturday. |
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