|
Post by pwoodstone on Aug 19, 2020 11:10:01 GMT
The decision will be communicated today.
|
|
|
Post by jdl on Aug 19, 2020 12:21:30 GMT
Random thought on capacities. Many used to be much higher. I recall a discussion on here where some non league clubs in Devon had a Wikipedia capacity of 5000, but were just huge grass banks. So, maybe a club once had a capacity of 10,000, reduced to 3,000 for modern requirements. Although the 25% capacity would now be 750, in reality a ground that once held 10,000 would easily accommodate any likely crowd with full social distancing. Imagine the big open spaces at London Road. I'm not liking you twice!
|
|
|
Post by Raymondo316 on Aug 19, 2020 14:16:05 GMT
So if they use the same rules at National South we will be limited to either 450 or 900
|
|
|
Post by yorkshirestone on Aug 19, 2020 14:56:04 GMT
With the leagues below us starting with crowds it looks more likely we will start in October now. I hope you're right, but I don't see any logical connection between 'crowds' being allowed at the levels below us and the same happening at our level.Almost every club below NS/NN level gets much lower gates than at our level*, and very few are likely to find social distancing difficult with their normal attendances. Whereas, almost all of the NL clubs, and many of the NN and NS clubs, will have serious problems, as their average attendance is a significant proportion of their capacity. The logic of allowing crowds back at level 3 and below, simply doesn't apply at NL levels. I would guess they'll treat us as part of 'senior' football (effectively L3 and L4N/S). Whatever they decide to do with the EFL, will also apply to us. (*I'll put the stats to support all this in the next post, to avoid killing too many goldfish) Albeit with the benefit of a few hours having passed and the FA's guidance having been published, it's clear to me that running this strategy as a pilot at the most financially vulnerable and proportionally smaller and less well supported clubs is a really good idea. Any problems that manifest can be assessed and contingencies developed before implementing the same at larger clubs. I refuse to believe that the FA have cobbled this together in the last couple of days in response to a petition. They will have been planning these things for literally months now.
|
|
|
Post by trolley59 on Aug 19, 2020 15:16:43 GMT
The FA planning something? ? Don't be daft
|
|
|
Post by jdl on Aug 19, 2020 15:35:45 GMT
So if they use the same rules at National South we will be limited to either 450 or 900 I don't actually understand this! Where do you get 450 and 900 from?
|
|
|
Post by Raymondo316 on Aug 19, 2020 15:48:38 GMT
So if they use the same rules at National South we will be limited to either 450 or 900 I don't actually understand this! Where do you get 450 and 900 from? Minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000. With a limit of 15% that figure would be 450, so 30% would be 900.
|
|
|
Post by sword65 on Aug 19, 2020 17:18:52 GMT
I don't actually understand this! Where do you get 450 and 900 from? Minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000. With a limit of 15% that figure would be 450, so 30% would be 900. If this so then 900 season tickets =£229,500 add to this a conservative estimate of say £50,000 in food/beer takings then we have around £279,500 to play with initially. Should things improve then that figure will obviously rise.Over a 35 week season that works out at £8,000 per week for a squad of say 18 players and managers/coaches, that is about £400 on average each and I am pretty sure they are on more than that each. Therefore we will have to take funds,and a lot of them,from pitch hire to make up the shortfall. Hopefully the situation will improve,maybe after xmas,to allow bigger attendances.
|
|
|
Post by Harry on Aug 19, 2020 18:16:47 GMT
I don't actually understand this! Where do you get 450 and 900 from? Minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000. With a limit of 15% that figure would be 450, so 30% would be 900. Sorry to be so dim but what do you mean by 'minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000' ?
|
|
|
Post by sword65 on Aug 19, 2020 18:26:03 GMT
Minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000. With a limit of 15% that figure would be 450, so 30% would be 900. Sorry to be so dim but what do you mean by 'minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000' ? 3000 is the minimum required capacity to gain the necessary ground grading to play at this level
|
|
|
Post by steveh21 on Aug 19, 2020 18:33:09 GMT
If Stones play a team below NLS level away in a preseason friendly does that mean some fsns can attend?
|
|
|
Post by Raymondo316 on Aug 19, 2020 18:45:42 GMT
Minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000. With a limit of 15% that figure would be 450, so 30% would be 900. Sorry to be so dim but what do you mean by 'minimum ground capacity at National South is 3000' ? To be allowed to stay in the National South/North you need a ground capacity of at least 3000. Any team promoted to this level is given a season or 2 to get their ground up to the required standard or they can be thrown out the league.
|
|
|
Post by soulstone on Aug 19, 2020 19:02:23 GMT
What crowds clubs at step 3 and below got last season means very little this season as this will be the only football anyone can watch for a while.
|
|
|
Post by sword65 on Aug 19, 2020 19:14:23 GMT
If Stones play a team below NLS level away in a preseason friendly does that mean some fsns can attend? I would think so yes, as long as attendance does not exceed the 15% of ground capacity but both you and I know if capacity is set at 300 and 400 turn up they will not be turned away they will be admitted but not officially counted.
|
|
|
Post by Tstone on Aug 19, 2020 20:55:59 GMT
Track and trace is going to be interesting
|
|