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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 12:29:54 GMT
It's quite funny really,a few months back when I suggested that Hak should resign or be sacked I was shot to pieces by virtually all of you who were dancing around and shouting "IN HAK WE TRUST". Here we are a few months later when stability is required in these unprecedented times and I want Hak to stay and you lot want shot of him for either the return of the messiah or an out of work geriatric whose game plan is to have more hoofs than the entire grand national field. Very strange indeed. Not sure people want Hak gone, I think the question is being asked about why he has not officially been announced as our manager when things return? Of course we do not know when, but does Hak want to stay and do the Board want him to? What the fans think tends not to matter when it comes to hiring and firing managers as we know. Given that we might not even have 20/21 season it's ( the management ) is not a pressing issue now. |
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Post by jakeyboi on May 7, 2020 17:59:12 GMT
I think the club are scared to announce anything at the moment because every thing could change daily, season ticket sales cannot really go on sale until they are certain what next season is going to be like. Cannot go out an recruit any new players because they have no real idea of budgets etc for next year, it really is scary times for this club an any other club.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 20:39:09 GMT
You are probably right about the players jakeyboi but surely before that comes the manager appointment.
No news from the club but thereagain it seems to be in complete lockdown without a single employee present.
Reported wisdom is that either 3 or 4 players of last season's squad have contracts running through next season too.
Listening to Oliver it sounds like the club wants to retain 'some' of the other players.
Sort of feels like we will have around 50% of the old team, added to which the club will be looking to recruit youngish and some more local players.
But before anything can happen the newly appointed manager needs to be named, be it Hak or a surprise choice.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 23:49:21 GMT
No chance. Both far too expensive, they will be looking for contracts with National League teams. At the moment Nick you are right but alot of players are going to need a reality check when football comes back. The money they were used to isn't going to be there. They won't have leagues to play in. Football won;t start for at least 15 months , maybe 27 months. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 23:55:24 GMT
At the moment Nick you are right but alot of players are going to need a reality check when football comes back. The money they were used to isn't going to be there. They won't have leagues to play in. Football won;t start for at least 15 months , maybe 27 months. You cheerful fucker. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 0:58:37 GMT
Ok then maybe 39 months = August 2023 will be a time to renew football.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 7:39:22 GMT
Unfortunately, he could be right though. The further down the pyramid, the more clubs rely on gate money, hospitality, premises hire etc - the very things that are bottom of the lockdown list.
Maybe the only way the part time (ish) leagues and clubs can survive is to go into stasis for a year, with minimal expenses, in particular player's wages.
If they want to play (and regulations allow it), then these players will have to join amateur clubs. There again, maybe a magic solution is just round the corner and history will show it was three months of panic for very little. Not holding my breath mind...
Meanwhile, those in need of a footy fix can watch the South Korean league on the BBC red button/ on line this weekend. Dim Sum Rangers v Pot Noodle Utd anyone?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 9:08:51 GMT
Well it's all about opinions and only time will tell who's right and who's wrong.
But given the fact that televised prefessional football in the UK will be back by June, some of the bleakest forecasts of a restart on this forum smack of ott pessimism.
Lockdown lethargy and mentality has a lot to answer for.
Some people can be so negative.
Anyhow it isn't going to impact in such a draconian way imo and I think a new season starting in October, with more midweek matches and an extension, is probaby the most likely scenario.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 9:56:54 GMT
Wanna bet?
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Post by jakeyboi on May 8, 2020 9:59:51 GMT
You are probably right about the players jakeyboi but surely before that comes the manager appointment. No news from the club but thereagain it seems to be in complete lockdown without a single employee present. Reported wisdom is that either 3 or 4 players of last season's squad have contracts running through next season too. Listening to Oliver it sounds like the club wants to retain 'some' of the other players. Sort of feels like we will have around 50% of the old team, added to which the club will be looking to recruit youngish and some more local players. But before anything can happen the newly appointed manager needs to be named, be it Hak or a surprise choice. Nick you an many others mention often about recruiting local players to help us in returning to P/T football an bringing with them more passion an determination than those not linked to the town, maybe the owners are thinking that this might also be the case of the next manager, maybe what they can afford to pay HH is not enough to warrant his daily commute etc etc. Maybe HH cannot afford to go P/T. So many questions an so few answers. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 11:21:05 GMT
Tbf I'm not at all convinced our next manager will be p/t.
Jay was f/t for a fair bit before the National League era, including his work with the academy.
I hear Hak sold his fish and chip business some months ago so he could focus properly on football management.
But like some of the players Hak may need to take a pay cut too.
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Post by pedant on May 8, 2020 13:05:42 GMT
Well it's all about opinions and only time will tell who's right and who's wrong. But given the fact that televised prefessional football in the UK will be back by June, some of the bleakest forecasts of a restart on this forum smack of ott pessimism. Lockdown lethargy and mentality has a lot to answer for. Some people can be so negative. Anyhow it isn't going to impact in such a draconian way imo and I think a new season starting in October, with more midweek matches and an extension, is probaby the most likely scenario. Dutch Health Minister has been reported as saying no sport spectators will be allowed until vaccine is available (and presumably widely used). Even the most optimistic hopes for a vaccine aren't currently that quick. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 8:06:51 GMT
Indeed. There are just two things that will accelerate the return to normal - an effective drug to treat the virus and a vaccine to prevent it.
September is the earliest that has been touted for the latter, but realistically it seems mid 2021 is more likely. So best bet seems to be a drug then, but likewise no sign of a magic bullet either. All of which makes any spectator sport or large social gatherings unlikely.
The one alternative seems to be research by Edinburgh University that suggests if we ring fence the most vulnerable, the rest of the population could (possibly) cope with getting the virus. Apparently, even for the over 65s only one in 16 are classed as vulnerable, due to underlying health concerns.
Safe to say that few leaders, apart from the obvious ones, will want to play that particular game of Russian Roulette.
However, there is and will increasingly be, a growing tension between the damage caused by the virus and the economic impact of lockdown. Can't help thinking that as well as the already documented missed opportunities, things like repairing pot holes (while the roads were quiet), clearing litter (ditto) plus the blue sky stuff of actually PLANNING for a much greener return to normal (as opposed to just a few lobby groups making a noise) have also been lost.
Maybe there has been stuff going on behind the scenes, but thus far, still get the impression the government has its collective head stuck up its arse.
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Post by pedant on May 9, 2020 8:26:13 GMT
Indeed. There are just two things that will accelerate the return to normal - an effective drug to treat the virus and a vaccine to prevent it. September is the earliest that has been touted for the latter, but realistically it seems mid 2021 is more likely. So best bet seems to be a drug then, but likewise no sign of a magic bullet either. All of which makes any spectator sport or large social gatherings unlikely. The one alternative seems to be research by Edinburgh University that suggests if we ring fence the most vulnerable, the rest of the population could (possibly) cope with getting the virus. Apparently, even for the over 65s only one in 16 are classed as vulnerable, due to underlying health concerns. Safe to say that few leaders, apart from the obvious ones, will want to play that particular game of Russian Roulette. However, there is and will increasingly be, a growing tension between the damage caused by the virus and the economic impact of lockdown. Can't help thinking that as well as the already documented missed opportunities, things like repairing pot holes (while the roads were quiet), clearing litter (ditto) plus the blue sky stuff of actually PLANNING for a much greener return to normal (as opposed to just a few lobby groups making a noise) have also been lost. Maybe there has been stuff going on behind the scenes, but thus far, still get the impression the government has its collective head stuck up its arse. To be fair, and I'm not convinced most of them deserve fairness, the Governments have been caught in the old swamp and alligator issue. They've been somewhat occupied in fighting the immediate problem of the alligators to remember, and act on, the intention of draining the swamp. As for council staff, potholes and litter, remember they are people too. So, self isolating with apparent symptoms, social distancing and safe working applies to them as well. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 14:05:16 GMT
Just had a walk around Mote Park with a fellow Stones supporter and hardly surprising we started talking about our favourite team.
What struck me more than anything is that my mate Andy, never used to have a bad word to say about Hak and the team,
Well, now he had quite a few things to say and none of them was particularly flattering
He did explain himself that as a proper supporter he feels honour bound to get behind the team and management during the season
But now its over, he is no longer obliged, and I had to listen to his views about player recruitment, dodgy signings, poor tactics on corners (taking and
defending), inconsistent performances, poor work-rate, poor quality crosses, some really dispiriting and dull efforts and the rest.
He felt that team results were nosediving at the season's end and the idea that the club should re-appoint Hak would be a big mistake.
Carry on where we left off ? Wonder, if Andy right or wrong. Will bbj get his wish ?
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