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Post by islandstone on Oct 20, 2013 8:00:39 GMT
Does anyone believe Hitler, had he taken Britain, would have stopped at our island or just taken Ireland too? I think would have taken the lot eventually. Even though Spain was fascist too he would have found an excuse to move in. Same for all the other impartial countries. He wanted the lot.
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Post by islandstone on Oct 20, 2013 8:02:37 GMT
Historians say it is the Battle of Hastings. Medway second and I suppose they are the major turning points. Both are the only real times, that we have been invaded successfully and both times have seen massive changes for the better. I mean what have the Romans ever done for us? Apart from sewers and sanitation?...
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Post by jt on Oct 20, 2013 8:09:49 GMT
I've read a lot about Hitler and the German country before he came to power. He was seen as a massive revolutionary at the time in a country that was on it's knees. People just became swept up by all of it and most of them thought it was becoming a great time. Of course we all know how it ended up.
I think this is a period in history that should never be forgotton by anyone. I've spent time in Germany (going again in a few days) and the majority of people are now embarassed by what happened. It's only been over the last couple of decades that they are thinking that the tales need to be told.
When I went earlier this year I went to Wewelsburg Castle. This was used by Himmler as his headquaters for the SS. The place has a quite sereane feel to it as you walk up to the gates and around the outside. When you go into the museum you can't help but be completely shocked by what Himmler had done. The unfortunate thing about the castle is that it is used by neo nazis as a place of pilgrimage. Thankfully there were only school groups when I went as I may have got a bit annoyed with them.
It is well worth reading up on the tinternet about the place.
As for Hitler, no doubt he would have gone as far as he could within Europe or anything comnnected to it by land.
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Post by islandstone on Oct 20, 2013 8:20:57 GMT
I've read a lot about Hitler and the German country before he came to power. He was seen as a massive revolutionary at the time in a country that was on it's knees. People just became swept up by all of it and most of them thought it was becoming a great time. Of course we all know how it ended up. I think this is a period in history that should never be forgotton by anyone. I've spent time in Germany (going again in a few days) and the majority of people are now embarassed by what happened. It's only been over the last couple of decades that they are thinking that the tales need to be told. When I went earlier this year I went to Wewelsburg Castle. This was used by Himmler as his headquaters for the SS. The place has a quite sereane feel to it as you walk up to the gates and around the outside. When you go into the museum you can't help but be completely shocked by what Himmler had done. The unfortunate thing about the castle is that it is used by neo nazis as a place of pilgrimage. Thankfully there were only school groups when I went as I may have got a bit annoyed with them. It is well worth reading up on the tinternet about the place. As for Hitler, no doubt he would have gone as far as he could within Europe or anything comnnected to it by land. My mum visited where my grandad was p.o.w. and whilst there went to not so far away Jewish extermination camp. Said the place had a feeling like no other. To know what went on.... To walk round these places must put a chill down the spine.
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Post by jt on Oct 20, 2013 8:52:08 GMT
Certainly does
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Post by porkystone on Oct 20, 2013 10:06:18 GMT
A trip to Aushwitz is an essential but deeply moving / troubling thing. It's the little things that get you, like the piles of luggage belonging to those whose journey there was a one way ticket.............
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Post by jt on Oct 20, 2013 10:15:05 GMT
The thing that got me about Wewelsburg was the stuff they had that was used to determine who was perfect. Head measures, eye colour charts and various other items. They have lists of people that were killed in the camp there. Have a google of The Black Sun. It'll go into the history a bit more than I can do it justice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 16:25:33 GMT
I've read a lot about Hitler and the German country before he came to power. He was seen as a massive revolutionary at the time in a country that was on it's knees. People just became swept up by all of it and most of them thought it was becoming a great time. Of course we all know how it ended up. I think this is a period in history that should never be forgotton by anyone. I've spent time in Germany (going again in a few days) and the majority of people are now embarassed by what happened. It's only been over the last couple of decades that they are thinking that the tales need to be told. When I went earlier this year I went to Wewelsburg Castle. This was used by Himmler as his headquaters for the SS. The place has a quite sereane feel to it as you walk up to the gates and around the outside. When you go into the museum you can't help but be completely shocked by what Himmler had done. The unfortunate thing about the castle is that it is used by neo nazis as a place of pilgrimage. Thankfully there were only school groups when I went as I may have got a bit annoyed with them. It is well worth reading up on the tinternet about the place. As for Hitler, no doubt he would have gone as far as he could within Europe or anything comnnected to it by land. The main driver behind Hitlers rise to power was the hardship endured by the German people as a direct result of the treaty of Versaille. Without it his dogma would have not resonated as it did and his voice would never have been heard. Expose a people to enough hardship denounce a demographic of the populous as the cause and some maniac will rise protraying himself as the new messiah. It could happen in any country given the same circumstances.
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Post by islandstone on Oct 20, 2013 17:06:39 GMT
Favourite historical film? Thin red line for the psychology.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 20:43:44 GMT
Favourite historical film? Thin red line for the psychology. Very recent history but one of my favourite films ever is Thirteen Days - Cuban missile crisis 1962 gets ★★★★★ from me. Anything WW2 for me the best is Band of Brothers. But then i totally rate Escape to victory
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 14:42:57 GMT
Trafalgar day 208 years ago today - Thanks again Lord Nelson
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Post by toonarmy on Oct 21, 2013 17:05:28 GMT
Das Boot
All quiet on the western front
Stalingrad
It was always good to see how war was perceived on the other side
I also liked Letter from Iwo Jima and Flags of our Fathers which gave both perspectives of the war in the Far East.
I also enjoyed the epic Saving Private Ryan
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Post by jt on Oct 21, 2013 17:13:41 GMT
Due to my choice employment and some of the things I have seen I consider to be en amotional retard. Nothing moves me at all. Schindlers List however is the only film that has ever done that.
Not much you can say about it really.
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Post by jt on Oct 21, 2013 20:33:25 GMT
Should have choice of. Let's just say just say I've seen everything from babies being born to people dying in front of me after violent ends, to bodies of people who has been dead for months. It kind of screws emotions and not much affects me anymore.
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Post by islandstone on Oct 21, 2013 21:38:16 GMT
Should have choice of. Let's just say just say I've seen everything from babies being born to people dying in front of me after violent ends, to bodies of people who has been dead for months. It kind of screws emotions and not much affects me anymore. Jesus Christ, I didn't know your a doorman at mothercare.
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