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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2013 22:49:48 GMT
Glad Im not alone.
Watched 'Parkland' today the new JFK movie that focuses more on the immmediate aftermath.
Pulls on the heart strings a lot but a must see.
Thirteen days is a great film on the cuban missile crisis and its unbelievable the pressure that man was under and still saved the world.
The lone crazed killer routine is still the one they choose to pedal. Like with RFK and MLK.
Funny how JFK jnrs plane went down weeks after announcing he was going to follow his father into politics
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Post by Sennockian69 on Nov 27, 2013 17:40:21 GMT
Glad Im not alone. Watched 'Parkland' today the new JFK movie that focuses more on the immmediate aftermath. Pulls on the heart strings a lot but a must see. Thirteen days is a great film on the cuban missile crisis and its unbelievable the pressure that man was under and still saved the world. The lone crazed killer routine is still the one they choose to pedal. Like with RFK and MLK. Funny how JFK jnrs plane went down weeks after announcing he was going to follow his father into politics It's fate or a conspiracy. You decide.
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Post by nickthestone on Nov 28, 2013 13:21:32 GMT
What always interested me about the assassination of JFK, is that if you watch the film, you see his head go backwards, when the actual 3rd shot came from behind, how his head doesn't go forwards has always made me wonder If it was a triangular ambush. Why didn't Oswald fire when he had a straight front shot?
But, what would've happened if Oswald missed & JFK survived? Kennedy would've struggled to win a next term, he would have brought the American forces home from Vietnam & probably spent billions of dollars in Vietnam in rebuilding it.
The civil rights movements & the hippy flower power of the 60's would've never had happened, their would more than likely been race riots across the USA, & MLK would not have made his speech.
Kennedy would've long gone when America decided to nuke Hanoi after Ho Chi Minh had not withdrawn his army from Saigon.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Nov 28, 2013 20:16:51 GMT
What always interested me about the assassination of JFK, is that if you watch the film, you see his head go backwards, when the actual 3rd shot came from behind, how his head doesn't go forwards has always made me wonder If it was a triangular ambush. Why didn't Oswald fire when he had a straight front shot? But, what would've happened if Oswald missed & JFK survived? Kennedy would've struggled to win a next term, he would have brought the American forces home from Vietnam & probably spent billions of dollars in Vietnam in rebuilding it. The civil rights movements & the hippy flower power of the 60's would've never had happened, their would more than likely been race riots across the USA, & MLK would not have made his speech. l Kennedy would've long gone when America decided to nuke Hanoi after Ho Chi Minh had not withdrawn his army from Saigon. Your thoughts about where the shot was fired from - Oswald needed to escape so firing from the front would given him less time to slip away as it would have been more obvious where the shots were from. Also I have seen physics used to explain why he didn't slump forward ( Also the back brace prevented his head slumping into Jackie O's lap).
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Post by Sennockian69 on Nov 28, 2013 20:33:00 GMT
What always interested me about the assassination of JFK, is that if you watch the film, you see his head go backwards, when the actual 3rd shot came from behind, how his head doesn't go forwards has always made me wonder If it was a triangular ambush. Why didn't Oswald fire when he had a straight front shot? But, what would've happened if Oswald missed & JFK survived? Kennedy would've struggled to win a next term, he would have brought the American forces home from Vietnam & probably spent billions of dollars in Vietnam in rebuilding it. The civil rights movements & the hippy flower power of the 60's would've never had happened, their would more than likely been race riots across the USA, & MLK would not have made his speech. Kennedy would've long gone when America decided to nuke Hanoi after Ho Chi Minh had not withdrawn his army from Saigon. Elections are never decided one year out so I think he could have used the weight of incumbency to win re election. If Vietnam wasn't pump primed with the full force of the military industrial complex then the flower power movement would not have had the oxygen to breathe in. Maybe the rise of the East would have been brought forward a decade. The historic forces driving the civil rights were relentless so MLK would still have dreamed but in an more benign environment under JFK. Fate renders these alternative histories meaningless.
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Post by islandstone on Nov 29, 2013 7:29:18 GMT
JFK died from the "own goal" shot from his own bodyguard/special forces man in the car from behind as he spun, taking the safety off to fire back at the located window as the car jerked forwards thus the negligent discharge that created the red mist. That finished him off.
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Post by islandstone on Feb 1, 2014 7:23:08 GMT
is there such a thing as true country identity in Europe? apart from traditions and customs. we've all invaded each other so many times that we're all so inter linked already. the east is more confusing than a conversation with shakey and the west has been over run multiple times, romans, goths, celts, French, moors, and so on. my point is, maybe we're nearer to being a united states of Europe already.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 10:09:47 GMT
is there such a thing as true country identity in Europe? apart from traditions and customs. we've all invaded each other so many times that we're all so inter linked already. the east is more confusing than a conversation with shakey and the west has been over run multiple times, romans, goths, celts, French, moors, and so on. my point is, maybe we're nearer to being a united states of Europe already. I agree and for me man uniting (distant future) is its only hope but we seem stuck in isolationist politics of the past with the media in full flag waving song
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Post by islandstone on Feb 9, 2014 11:37:56 GMT
If you ask me I think it's us and the Scandinavians that are the most isolated or least invaded. The biggest problem that stops a united Europe is the financial side of things. Import taxes etc. How would that work?
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