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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 16, 2019 21:32:46 GMT
Apart from being useless in every department, do the players actually have any cohesion? It literally seemed like no one had any communication and didn’t know what the Other was doing That's the manager's job. What's happened to the great return of Mr. Still? It seems to be getting worse and the rotating door seems to be quicker. I always thought Walton should have got the job.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Feb 16, 2019 21:40:26 GMT
It has been the Midfield problem all season - No Power and no real creativity - clear and obvious all season. John Still seems to agree
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 16, 2019 21:43:35 GMT
It's a bit more than midfield now. It's now fully downward. But we'll still be there hoping on Tuesday night.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Feb 16, 2019 21:53:18 GMT
Apart from being useless in every department, do the players actually have any cohesion? It literally seemed like no one had any communication and didn’t know what the Other was doing That's the manager's job. What's happened to the great return of Mr. Still? It seems to be getting worse and the rotating door seems to be quicker. I always thought Walton should have got the job. Deary me the bloke has inherited a mess of a team and only been here a couple of weeks, yet your already questioning that he was the wrong appointment. The bloke is one of the best non league managers of the last 30 years but not even he can pull off a miracle and save us from the drop.....the damage was done well before he arrived. Christ sake let him build his own team and have a full pre season before you start moaning. Its clear as day John was brought in with an eye on next season and rebuilding us in the National South.
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Post by 61666 on Feb 16, 2019 22:04:12 GMT
A while ago, somebody here said 'we have a low football IQ'. Successive managements throughout the season have bemoaned the players inability to follow instructions on the pitch. There is something wrong with a squad than is unable to relate to its coaches. Whether they are simply bad players, football wise a bit thick, or a bit thick generally, is hard to tell, but right now, it feels like the revolving door needs to keep turning.
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Post by sdg on Feb 16, 2019 22:09:59 GMT
So refreshing to finally hear a manager of Maidstone United say we need to address our midfield problem. For at least 2 years now we have brought in midfielders who collectively cannot win football matches or dominate and dictate games.
Aside from Walton we don't have a midfielder capable of doing their job for 90 minutes. Looking forward to maybe seeing 2-3 midfielders who want the ball and can actually do something with it. Too late for this season but it may just improve our football next year.
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 16, 2019 22:16:35 GMT
That's the manager's job. What's happened to the great return of Mr. Still? It seems to be getting worse and the rotating door seems to be quicker. I always thought Walton should have got the job. Deary me the bloke has inherited a mess of a team and only been here a couple of weeks, yet your already questioning that he was the wrong appointment. The bloke is one of the best non league managers of the last 30 years but not even he can pull off a miracle and save us from the drop.....the damage was done well before he arrived. Christ sake let him build his own team and have a full pre season before you start moaning. Its clear as day John was brought in with an eye on next season and rebuilding us in the National South. I'm sorry but it seems to be terminal decline despite already having seen six new players in. Walton would have been an eye to the future and, yes, relegation, but re-building from a point of view of a local team, not a constantly rotating door. Echoes of Harry I'm afraid.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Feb 16, 2019 22:31:30 GMT
He said it himself that he doesn't like having loads of loan players, but at this point of the season loan players is all that will be available. Its clear as day things weren't working with this group of players, so hes had to make changes to try and get improvements. He can't just sit back and do nothing like you seem to want him to do.
At the end of the day proper recruitment is done in the summer not in February!! Something we have done badly the last 3 summers and part of the reason we are where we are now.
Like I said give the bloke a chance to build his own team in the summer before moaning.
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Post by Nick on Feb 16, 2019 22:47:38 GMT
That's like asking a bucket of frogs to fly to the moon. It ain't going to happen. You just have to accept that wolvesstone knows better than the rest of us.
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 16, 2019 22:57:35 GMT
He said it himself that he doesn't like having loads of loan players, but at this point of the season loan players is all that will be available. Its clear as day things weren't working with this group of players, so hes had to make changes to try and get improvements. He can't just sit back and do nothing like you seem to want him to do. At the end of the day proper recruitment is done in the summer not in February!! Something we have done badly the last 3 summers and part of the reason we are where we are now. Like I said give the bloke a chance to build his own team in the summer before moaning. Jay was a good local manager who, unfortunately, through his own success and a freak promotion, created the "poisoned chalice" of building a team in the NL. Three years of poor recruitment was his fault but completely understandably. In retrospect it would have been better to have stuck to him, remained part time and, perhaps, gone down with him like that. We are now in a slipstream whereby we have rotated the door to such an extent that the team has become completely unstable. There are good players who have been replaced for single bad games (bad games probably due to good scouting techniques by the opposition teams). There are players who have no confidence at all, probably hate the place, and probably won't play again. Maidstone UFC needs to take a step back. It needs to recognise that it has a fantastic support base and stadium and board which can excellent at NLS level for several years to come. It must accept that NL status is not achievable and that it is not right to rotate players in and out constantly because this leads to the supporters losing their attachment to the team. Local heroes are important in local non-league football - Flish, BJT, Coyle, etc, etc. Sadly I believe that John Still was recruited to take Maidstone back to the NL with immediate effect next season. What happens after that? Retirement? More misery? Walton would have been an opportunity for the club to build under a bright and enthusiastic new manager, with new ideas, young players and an optimistic (if starry eyed) outlook. Jay was a young and optimistic appointment, at a lower level, and look what happened.
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Post by wolvesstone on Feb 16, 2019 23:00:16 GMT
That's like asking a bucket of frogs to fly to the moon. It ain't going to happen. You just have to accept that wolvesstone knows better than the rest of us. Not necessarily, I'm summing up a number of views and chipping in myself. It wasn't me who described today's display so drastically as some of those above.
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Post by jdl on Feb 16, 2019 23:00:57 GMT
He said it himself that he doesn't like having loads of loan players, but at this point of the season loan players is all that will be available. Its clear as day things weren't working with this group of players, so hes had to make changes to try and get improvements. He can't just sit back and do nothing like you seem to want him to do. At the end of the day proper recruitment is done in the summer not in February!! Something we have done badly the last 3 summers and part of the reason we are where we are now. Like I said give the bloke a chance to build his own team in the summer before moaning. Much as I agree with your sentiments, your facts aren't quite right - we didn't recruit badly the first two seasons. The first season we tried to take on the NL with what was essentially our old NS team - not appreciating how much harder the NL would be. JS sorted this out, and we had a perfectly good, mid-table, finish. And our second season team was excellent and took us to 5th. Then we lost Pigott. Leaving aside last summer (when none of us know exactly what happened or why, but it looks like Jay didn't have a free hand or the support of the directors), our problem was, and still is, that we can't recruit, and/or, hold on to good players, especially strikers. Players are forever telling us what a good place MUFC is to come to and how well it's run, etc, etc, so the problem must, quite simply, be just down to money. We can't compete with the big clubs and those with 'investors' with deep pockets. This season was different because the club effectively fucked itself up, and, without the whole Jay/Wheeler fiasco, we probably would have had another also-ran season, but survived. We are, as a club, perfectly capable of surviving in the NL - this season wasn't inevitable. But, without money, or a decent slice of good fortune, we'll never be able to recruit, or hang on to the sort of players we need to do more than just survive.
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Post by sword65 on Feb 17, 2019 0:17:46 GMT
£7.90 train fare £3.80 lunch £9.57 pre match beer £18.00 to get in £39.27 in total For that money I want a performance not an abject surrender to a team that were pretty average in my opinion. If you multiply that by 630 fans some of which would have spent more ,some less, then you get about £27,000 wasted by our supporters on the biggest pile of shit I have seen this year. I am a season ticket holder but I cannot see myself being there Tuesday to watch us get beaten by Halifax as today has really pissed me off.
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Post by gromley on Feb 17, 2019 0:39:06 GMT
Super maths Sword - and to think I was cursing at lunchtime that with better information on my evening commitments I could have been at the game . Sounds like I saved a net £30 and avoided a totally depressing experience.
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Post by nws on Feb 17, 2019 0:46:43 GMT
Have we all got the John Still feel good factor
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