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Post by steveh21 on Jul 1, 2020 21:14:37 GMT
Remember when this used to be a football forum all about Maidstone United and whether Dan Sweeney was shit or just misunderstood...
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Post by jdh80 on Jul 2, 2020 3:13:00 GMT
Remember when this used to be a football forum all about Maidstone United and whether Dan Sweeney was shit or just misunderstood... Even back then we could have three/five straight pages arguing the toss about something so unimportant and irrelevant to football. Dan may not have been every fans cup of tea but he's now in league 2 and we're in national south. I do remember fondly Dan's short time on the beach at Havant and Waterlooville still never worked out how we ballsed that game up or why the ref thought both incidents required a yellow. He was also the player who started the chant back to the fans after our first visit to Torquay in the national league.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Jul 2, 2020 10:37:33 GMT
With the USA buying up the entire world supply of remdesivir, the stage is set for Donald Trump to ransome the planet. USA will be first with a vaccine and all other projects will mysteriously be ended in a series of assassinations and explosions. As a result, access to the vaccine will only be granted if a country agrees to a mega golf course for DTs personal use, along with access to virgins, as required. Fortunately 007 will come to the rescue and Britain will become great again instead, though virgins will still need to beware as they will be required to service the needs of the PM and provide many new offspring to repopulate the country in His image... 😉😆😥☺️😀 The Donald what the Donald does - overpay for many things as he has his entire life - he doesn't care as he doesn't mind bankruptcy. He thinks he is paying the right price - the rest of the world has Dexamethasone at an affordable price the world over. I think you have been reading too many Ian Fleming novels in lockdown.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 15:17:51 GMT
Just saw how many positive cases there were in Oxfordshire on Tuesday. One. (Wasn't me...) Yet we are under the same restrictions as say Rochdale... and at the same time, they and we are allowed to go abroad on holiday? I don't get it.
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Post by sword65 on Jul 2, 2020 16:28:38 GMT
Just saw how many positive cases there were in Oxfordshire on Tuesday. One. (Wasn't me...) Yet we are under the same restrictions as say Rochdale... and at the same time, they and we are allowed to go abroad on holiday? I don't get it. I'll put it in simple layman's terms, the figures are BOLLOCKS!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 16:37:52 GMT
You know best, swordy. It was probably 2. Everything is a lie.
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Post by jdl on Jul 2, 2020 23:02:36 GMT
Back to the topic...
I see two possibilities:
1) If no second wave by end of July - training restarts in August, 'normal' league programme starts in September* (no cup games, except FAC) - season runs into May.
2) If serious second wave by end of July - all bets off. Maybe truncated season starts in winter, or poss no season at all.
Basically, it all depends on how lucky Johnson gets.
(*I've ignored the play-offs, as I still can't see how on earth they're going to do these. But, presumably, if they do, the season will start a couple of weeks later.)
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Post by jdh80 on Jul 3, 2020 0:32:40 GMT
Back to the topic... I see two possibilities: 1) If no second wave by end of July - training restarts in August, 'normal' league programme starts in September* (no cup games, except FAC) - season runs into May. 2) If serious second wave by end of July - all bets off. Maybe truncated season starts in winter, or poss no season at all. Basically, it all depends on how lucky Johnson gets. (*I've ignored the play-offs, as I still can't see how on earth they're going to do these. But, presumably, if they do, the season will start a couple of weeks later.) From what i keep seeing season start to be around last weekend in September. Premier league supposed to be wrapped up in July the same with the fa cup, Europa league and champions league games to be played in august from last season, so playoffs during July august time so very little time for those teams to prepare for the start of the new season, plus if they sign some players on contracts what happens if they do/don't get promoted. Women's champions league quarter finals now 1 legged knock out games played in either Bilbao and san Sebastian, around 22/august. Semis around 25/august at the same place and final at san Sebastian on 30/august, two British teams in the last 8, arsenal and Glasgow city.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Jul 3, 2020 12:55:09 GMT
Back to the topic... I see two possibilities: 1) If no second wave by end of July - training restarts in August, 'normal' league programme starts in September* (no cup games, except FAC) - season runs into May. 2) If serious second wave by end of July - all bets off. Maybe truncated season starts in winter, or poss no season at all. Basically, it all depends on how lucky Johnson gets. (*I've ignored the play-offs, as I still can't see how on earth they're going to do these. But, presumably, if they do, the season will start a couple of weeks later.) You are insane. It's whether the British Public behave with due care and attention that will determine our future in the area of Covid-19.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 13:42:53 GMT
What, a bit like away fans' behaviour determined whether or not we'd have segregation at the Gallagher? Oh dear.
Now that international travel is back on, it's not just the British public you need to worry about.
It's frustrating, because as per my post about 1 case a day in Oxon., COVID's practically gone from large swathes of the country. Couple of months of clamping down on "hotspots" may or may not do the trick.
Thing #6,927 that I just don't get: the NHS can't get through to 20 or 25% people who've had a test. So 1 in 4 people think "I've had a test for this deadly pandemic - better switch off my phone and ignore my emails for a month"? (JDL will blame this on Boris, because of something he read in his comic...)
Kinda back on topic, restricting crowds to 1,000 at the Gallagher will be easy, as [taking this board as representative] about 50% of our fans are so paranoid they'll still be self-isolating in 2030.
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Post by pedant on Jul 3, 2020 14:58:36 GMT
What, a bit like away fans' behaviour determined whether or not we'd have segregation at the Gallagher? Oh dear. Now that international travel is back on, it's not just the British public you need to worry about. It's frustrating, because as per my post about 1 case a day in Oxon., COVID's practically gone from large swathes of the country. Couple of months of clamping down on "hotspots" may or may not do the trick. Thing #6,927 that I just don't get: the NHS can't get through to 20 or 25% people who've had a test. So 1 in 4 people think "I've had a test for this deadly pandemic - better switch off my phone and ignore my emails for a month"? (JDL will blame this on Boris, because of something he read in his comic...) Kinda back on topic, restricting crowds to 1,000 at the Gallagher will be easy, as [taking this board as representative] about 50% of our fans are so paranoid they'll still be self-isolating in 2030. On the figure's published this week from the ONS - allegedly independent of the Govt - approximately 1 in 2200 of the general population currently has the virus.
Assuming 25% of those know they have it and act responsibly that's then 1 in 2933 of the people out on the streets potentially having the virus.
Even being optimistic about the potential home crowds at the Gallagher, by assuming 2000, statistically its only slightly more likely than not that one person attending will have the virus.
Evidence appears to suggest - but not conclusively - that 'most' who test positive (and the ONS figures are based on actual tests of all their selected population sample) do not show symptoms. Also those who do not show symptoms are, again believed to be, significantly less contagious than those with symptoms.
Based on those figures and assumptions (and yes, I can accept real life can vary) the chances of being near someone, that's 'significantly contagious' at a home match is quite remote. And that's without any mitigating actions being taken.
For away games the average attendance last season was around 950 and the chances are halved again.
Before anyone leaps up and down I'm not intending to provide 'evidence' of anything but trying to put some perspective on the risks.
Personally, based on my own circumstances, that level of risk would not deter me attending matches. But all our circumstances are different and I'd respect different conclusions.
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Post by sword65 on Jul 3, 2020 17:11:29 GMT
What, a bit like away fans' behaviour determined whether or not we'd have segregation at the Gallagher? Oh dear. Now that international travel is back on, it's not just the British public you need to worry about. It's frustrating, because as per my post about 1 case a day in Oxon., COVID's practically gone from large swathes of the country. Couple of months of clamping down on "hotspots" may or may not do the trick. Thing #6,927 that I just don't get: the NHS can't get through to 20 or 25% people who've had a test. So 1 in 4 people think "I've had a test for this deadly pandemic - better switch off my phone and ignore my emails for a month"? (JDL will blame this on Boris, because of something he read in his comic...) Kinda back on topic, restricting crowds to 1,000 at the Gallagher will be easy, as [taking this board as representative] about 50% of our fans are so paranoid they'll still be self-isolating in 2030. On the figure's published this week from the ONS - allegedly independent of the Govt - approximately 1 in 2200 of the general population currently has the virus.
Assuming 25% of those know they have it and act responsibly that's then 1 in 2933 of the people out on the streets potentially having the virus.
Even being optimistic about the potential home crowds at the Gallagher, by assuming 2000, statistically its only slightly more likely than not that one person attending will have the virus.
Evidence appears to suggest - but not conclusively - that 'most' who test positive (and the ONS figures are based on actual tests of all their selected population sample) do not show symptoms. Also those who do not show symptoms are, again believed to be, significantly less contagious than those with symptoms.
Based on those figures and assumptions (and yes, I can accept real life can vary) the chances of being near someone, that's 'significantly contagious' at a home match is quite remote. And that's without any mitigating actions being taken.
For away games the average attendance last season was around 950 and the chances are halved again.
Before anyone leaps up and down I'm not intending to provide 'evidence' of anything but trying to put some perspective on the risks.
Personally, based on my own circumstances, that level of risk would not deter me attending matches. But all our circumstances are different and I'd respect different conclusions.
Not sure how 75% of 2200 = 2933 but the rest is spot on.
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Post by pedant on Jul 3, 2020 17:51:35 GMT
On the figure's published this week from the ONS - allegedly independent of the Govt - approximately 1 in 2200 of the general population currently has the virus.
Assuming 25% of those know they have it and act responsibly that's then 1 in 2933 of the people out on the streets potentially having the virus.
Even being optimistic about the potential home crowds at the Gallagher, by assuming 2000, statistically its only slightly more likely than not that one person attending will have the virus.
Evidence appears to suggest - but not conclusively - that 'most' who test positive (and the ONS figures are based on actual tests of all their selected population sample) do not show symptoms. Also those who do not show symptoms are, again believed to be, significantly less contagious than those with symptoms.
Based on those figures and assumptions (and yes, I can accept real life can vary) the chances of being near someone, that's 'significantly contagious' at a home match is quite remote. And that's without any mitigating actions being taken.
For away games the average attendance last season was around 950 and the chances are halved again.
Before anyone leaps up and down I'm not intending to provide 'evidence' of anything but trying to put some perspective on the risks.
Personally, based on my own circumstances, that level of risk would not deter me attending matches. But all our circumstances are different and I'd respect different conclusions.
Not sure how 75% of 2200 = 2933 but the rest is spot on. If 1 person in 2200 has the virus that's 4 people in 8800. If 25% of those 'infected' self isolate, and don't go to football matches or other social interactions, that leaves 3 people in 8800 'out on the streets' with the virus, or, 1 person in 2933. (The ONS figure doesn't include those in hospital or, I believe, care homes with the virus.)
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Post by jdl on Jul 3, 2020 19:45:57 GMT
Back to the topic... I see two possibilities: 1) If no second wave by end of July - training restarts in August, 'normal' league programme starts in September* (no cup games, except FAC) - season runs into May. 2) If serious second wave by end of July - all bets off. Maybe truncated season starts in winter, or poss no season at all. Basically, it all depends on how lucky Johnson gets. (*I've ignored the play-offs, as I still can't see how on earth they're going to do these. But, presumably, if they do, the season will start a couple of weeks later.) You are insane. It's whether the British Public behave with due care and attention that will determine our future in the area of Covid-19. That's effectively the same thing. Although quite why that makes me "insane" is anyone's guess...
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Post by sword65 on Jul 3, 2020 22:13:10 GMT
Not sure how 75% of 2200 = 2933 but the rest is spot on. If 1 person in 2200 has the virus that's 4 people in 8800. If 25% of those 'infected' self isolate, and don't go to football matches or other social interactions, that leaves 3 people in 8800 'out on the streets' with the virus, or, 1 person in 2933. (The ONS figure doesn't include those in hospital or, I believe, care homes with the virus.) No if 25% of them self isolate that leaves 3 people out of 6600 or one in 2200 which is where you started. Doing it the way you do it means that if there 2200 cases and 25% of the self isolate you are left with one in 1650.
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