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Post by pedant on Jun 3, 2020 18:48:04 GMT
How strange that people think the club should be spending money now on wages for a manager an what ever players he may sign, do they not understand that all the time the gates remain closed there is no income, simple housekeeping rules with no income how can there be any out-goings. I,m sure the owners will appoint a manager as soon as they know when the new season will start, as others have said there will be lots of players available so no need to worry about missing out on players, this season will be like no other season any of us have ever seen. So, not full of dire / mediocre performances or threat of relegation, or even promotion then? Because I've seen seasons like that.
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Post by jdh80 on Jun 3, 2020 19:46:47 GMT
We will be fine.... relax everyone. A club is its fan base and ours is solid. I was reading that and trying to figure out the last word, i was guessing at rotund. Another word you could've ended that sentence with is argumentative, this forum being the prime example.
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Post by Rob on Jun 3, 2020 21:39:28 GMT
We must be doing this We must be doing that We should be doing this We should be doing that Why aren't we doing this Why aren't we doing that Listen to yourselves,none of you including me knows what is happening and what is going to happen. None of you including me know how to run a football club so why dont you leave it to the three wise men who do,supposedly.🤬 Swordy, cannot anybody have an opinion except you. What is allowed on this forum ? Just posts that carry the swordy endorsement. Are you right about everything ? Anybody that thinks differently to swordy has just got to shut up. Glad you not the administrator.
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Post by Dan on Jun 3, 2020 21:44:35 GMT
Seems a bit strange that other clubs can begin to think about building their squads for next season, starting with the manager on a new contract. How the Stones will get any benefit from doing nothing for the next few weeks is a bit of a mystery. Oh yes, just think about all those players left out of contract cause no other clubs wanted them. For sure they will be cheap as chips. I doubt the club are doing nothing. I'm sure they are talking to players in preparation for issuing contracts when the situation becomes clearer. Wise words indeed daveu. Nobody knows for sure but the idea that the club is not sounding out potential playeys beggars belief. Pretty clear from Olivers comments that plenty of stuff is happening out of sight. Still not 100% sure that Hak has his contract yet, seems more likely than not - - - and yet .
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Post by jdl on Jun 4, 2020 2:12:03 GMT
The reality is that most (all?) of what the government is doing is based on wish and hope - the figures just don't support any of this. We are still on level 4, deaths have come down, but are still stubbornly refusing to drop much further, and new infections are still somewhere between 2k and 8k a day. Johnson can dream of a return to 'normal' and reducing the 2 metre rule as much as he likes, but it looks very much like it will be months before we get anywhere near that (and given the incompetence displayed by this 'government' so far, it's highly likely that things are going to get worse again, before they get any better).
Meanwhile, it's now less than two months from the beginning of the new season. Players would be back from their breaks now, meeting up with the new recruits and starting training. And in a months time the friendlies would be starting. It's only June, but already we know that next season isn't going to start on time - probably not this side of Christmas. Add into that the fact that things like going to football will be some of the last things to return to 'normal' - the clubs' needs (big crowds, lots of drinking/eating in a confined space) are diametrically opposed to what is required to beat the virus.
So we could be looking at a mini-season starting in the New Year, probably with social distancing still in place, or we might even be looking at no 20-21 season at all at our level. Only those clubs with plenty of money to piss up the wall will be doing anything in the near future.
How are we even going to pay Hak and the contract players with no money coming in?
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Post by Bernie on Jun 4, 2020 3:15:42 GMT
If tens of thousands can gather in Hyde Park, then head off to Whitehall for a spot of rioting, a few hundred can go to non league football matches in complete safety.
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Post by oldboy on Jun 4, 2020 5:18:47 GMT
There is no rush to sign players at the moment, there wont be a 2020/21 season it will be a start in jan 21 and run till august then start again the following jan. Saving lives is the most important thing at the moment and i feel its a small price to pay if we have to wait till jan to get our fix of football.
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Post by aristotle38 on Jun 4, 2020 6:14:30 GMT
If tens of thousands can gather in Hyde Park, then head off to Whitehall for a spot of rioting, a few hundred can go to non league football matches in complete safety. Whilst I admire the sentiment of those protesting yesterday, I suspect that the medical impact of that gathering and others like it will be become very clear in the coming days and weeks.
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Post by jdh80 on Jun 4, 2020 6:19:45 GMT
There is no rush to sign players at the moment, there wont be a 2020/21 season it will be a start in jan 21 and run till august then start again the following jan. Saving lives is the most important thing at the moment and i feel its a small price to pay if we have to wait till jan to get our fix of football. Yeah those dates ain't going to work out, players usually holiday in june/july/august with their families so won't be playing non league football at that time of year. The only thing that could be done with a January 21 start is localised mini leagues for example, Bromley, Sutton, ebbsfleet, Dartford, dover, us, welling, Tonbridge and maybe Folkestone, Margate and Ramsgate for a local 11 team mini league between January and may 21 then come august 21 back to the league places currently and resume. More local games, chance for bigger crowds to enable clubs to get money in. Looking at other areas, Woking, dorking, Havant, Eastleigh, Gosport, Aldershot, Basingstoke etc, Dagenham, Braintree, Chelmsford, Enfield, Billericay, etc Maidenhead, Dulwich, Wealdstone, Hampton, slough, Obviously there are teams missing but could theoretically be done. From nl down to Ryman or southern league.
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Post by 61666 on Jun 4, 2020 7:07:52 GMT
Players are not on holiday in August - almost a quarter of the season was played in that month last year. However, the idea of local leagues as a temporary stop gap is interesting, though suspect it will take formally abandoning next season to get clubs thinking about it. Until that happens, things will muddle on - not unlike government policy on the virus...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 8:35:27 GMT
If tens of thousands can gather in Hyde Park, then head off to Whitehall for a spot of rioting, a few hundred can go to non league football matches in complete safety. Whilst I admire the sentiment of those protesting yesterday, I suspect that the medical impact of that gathering and others like it will be become very clear in the coming days and weeks. Indeed. There's an argument that the disease transmits much more in confined spaces as opposed to open air - we'll find out in a week or so. Then there's the possibility that the protesters / beachgoers (is that a word?) / partyers will be fine themselves but transmit COVID to their vulnerable relatives... but what do I know? I'm not an expert. Another spike and we'll all have to crank up the distancing - just as we were enjoying less restrictions. On the football side, I just can't get excited by the Bundesliga (or horse racing or Formula 1), or even think about non-league football; a bit of Premier League on TV would be great. OS Junior's just gone back to school - I'll be interested to hear how that goes. Apologies for just chucking random thoughts all in one place. Was off work (and this forum) last week, came back and the howling at the moon, believing own BS posts seem to have spread (like a virus...?)
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Post by pedant on Jun 4, 2020 9:49:31 GMT
The outdoor spaces argument worked so well for the Cheltenham Festival.
But there again it only reduces the risk of transmission rather than removes it.
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Post by jdl on Jun 4, 2020 10:24:51 GMT
The outdoor spaces argument worked so well for the Cheltenham Festival. But there again it only reduces the risk of transmission rather than removes it. Whatever 'social' stuff was going on at Cheltenham, it certainly wasn't distancing!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 10:31:41 GMT
The outdoor spaces argument worked so well for the Cheltenham Festival. But there again it only reduces the risk of transmission rather than removes it. Lee Mack reckoned he caught it from his chauffeur... no idea if there was any proven mass transmission there? Then there was the LFC - Atlético game. People shouting, whether it be at a bar or in a football / racecourse ground, are propelling air and droplets further than people just talking or barely breathing (so the main stand at the Gallagher will be safe as houses - when out cycling this srping I've done my best not to puff in people's faces but not all joggers / cyclists seem to have thought of that one. I still look at the graph on here: www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/uk-coronavirus-death-toll-covid19-official-figures-latest-a4434116.html and after a month or more of the 7-day average rate plummeting, it's flattened out. I won't even try to predict when it'll go down consistently again - might start tomorrow, might take weeks. Sword will be glad to hear that there was gridlock in Abingdon yesterday when McDonalds re-opened... we really aren't that posh.
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Post by jdl on Jun 4, 2020 10:32:43 GMT
There is no rush to sign players at the moment, there wont be a 2020/21 season it will be a start in jan 21 and run till august then start again the following jan. Saving lives is the most important thing at the moment and i feel its a small price to pay if we have to wait till jan to get our fix of football. Yeah those dates ain't going to work out, players usually holiday in june/july/august with their families so won't be playing non league football at that time of year. The only thing that could be done with a January 21 start is localised mini leagues for example, Bromley, Sutton, ebbsfleet, Dartford, dover, us, welling, Tonbridge and maybe Folkestone, Margate and Ramsgate for a local 11 team mini league between January and may 21 then come august 21 back to the league places currently and resume. More local games, chance for bigger crowds to enable clubs to get money in. Looking at other areas, Woking, dorking, Havant, Eastleigh, Gosport, Aldershot, Basingstoke etc, Dagenham, Braintree, Chelmsford, Enfield, Billericay, etc Maidenhead, Dulwich, Wealdstone, Hampton, slough, Obviously there are teams missing but could theoretically be done. From nl down to Ryman or southern league. I'm in two minds about this. Obviously it's better than nothing, as long as it can be done safely, and if it brings in enough money to keep the club going, but I'm not convinced it will bring in enough supporters. The first few games will, as we'll all be desperate to see live football again and get back to JWW, and the 'big' games (Fleet, Dartfod, Bromley...) will obviously be popular. But, once the first enthusuasm has worn off, I fear the gates will drop, as there will be no real competetive element - it will be just like a series of rather pointless friendlies. It's like going back in time to before the leagues were formed, when clubs just played each other by appointment. It worked then because workers had only just got Saturday afternoons off and there was f**k all else to do. But these days?
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