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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 6:53:24 GMT
How can you jail and deport somebody at the same time ? Anyhow, I think you are missing the point of the Welsh connection. We get so many problems with mass migration from the Valleys, taking our jobs, our women, living off our benefits Sword, get off your butt and do something about it ! You jail them and deport them after. Not sure I wrote the word concurrently in my previous post although you obviously managed to read it. As for Wales...don't worry. Leavers are already ready to chuck Northern Ireland and Scotland under a bus. It won't be long before Wales becomes the problem. This will keep going until leavers are forced to admit that they are being duped by the very people they idolise. Isn't it noticeable how quickly barney and Co melted away with their claim about the EU bowing to us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 10:20:21 GMT
Actually you presented tons of stuff you read and believe to be true, but you can never be sure, any more than the Brexiteers can be sure of any of their "facts". I was a remainder, but unlike you I realised that you can't quote so called independent sources to convince people of your views because there's no such thing. You quoted sources that supported your point of view, they quoted sources that supported theirs. Very little, if any, of it could be claimed to be incontrovertible fact. In fact you did yourself no favours with your continued quoting of so called facts because even people who agreed with you stopped reading your posts. A lot of my facts are source documents from the websites of the institutions, like GATT 24. Are you saying source documents are not facts? How strange. Just because people don't read them (not a claim you can make with any true knowledge although you can say people stopped replying) does not make them non-factual. However,despite your nonsense claims, i will humuor your post (almost certainly made because you were hoisted by your own petard elsewhere). Which bits do think are not facts? And you have absolute proof that they are facts? Any report is weighted to say what the people who commissioned it want it to say, or is that only true of the ones that don't support your argument? You rubbish the sources of anything you don't agree with, while refusing to accept any question about the validity of your own sources. Ironic that you accuse Boris of being a dictator without recognising the same trait in your own attitude. Christ, I voted remain but I recognise there are two sides to every argument. With you it's the NWS way or no way, and as usual, when someone questions your arguments you simply rubbish their views.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 16:34:06 GMT
A lot of my facts are source documents from the websites of the institutions, like GATT 24. Are you saying source documents are not facts? How strange. Just because people don't read them (not a claim you can make with any true knowledge although you can say people stopped replying) does not make them non-factual. However,despite your nonsense claims, i will humuor your post (almost certainly made because you were hoisted by your own petard elsewhere). Which bits do think are not facts? And you have absolute proof that they are facts? Any report is weighted to say what the people who commissioned it want it to say, or is that only true of the ones that don't support your argument? You rubbish the sources of anything you don't agree with, while refusing to accept any question about the validity of your own sources. Ironic that you accuse Boris of being a dictator without recognising the same trait in your own attitude. Christ, I voted remain but I recognise there are two sides to every argument. With you it's the NWS way or no way, and as usual, when someone questions your arguments you simply rubbish their views. Do you have a problem with reading? The GATT24 documentation I referred to is not a report. It is a list of WTO rules. Can you tell me where I go for an unbiased view of WTO rules if it is not the WTO rules? Perhaps the statements affirming what I claimed as fact, by the head of the WTO, was also biased and talking nonsense. If you want proof then look it up. It's online. What more proof do you need? When I read something I do my best to check it out. I don't trust anything any more. However, I recognise that you feel there is equality between people making absolute nonsense claims about the UK having to join the Euro by 2021 (because it is in the Lisbon Treaty) and my claims about the WTO rules...oh dear...and, as a clue, neither are reports. Still, like I said, I await your one point where you dispute my facts...I suspect I will wait a long time. I did of course, on another thread, claim you were right wing. You tried to deny this and my fact presented was you saying you were right wing. You are still sore. Still, what fact are you claiming is not fact?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 16:43:25 GMT
Maybe the head of the WTO talks out his arse also. Didn’t that occur to you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 16:45:35 GMT
Maybe the head of the WTO talks out his arse also. Didn’t that occur to you If we accept your somewhat strange assertion that the WTO head doesn't know the rules of the WTO can I push you a little further to think about the bit that is written down?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 16:59:02 GMT
As was said earlier, you believe what you want. Others believe what they want. This is just going around in circles.You seem to have a hard on for the EU for some reason. You need to let it go
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 17:06:00 GMT
As was said earlier, you believe what you want. Others believe what they want. This is just going around in circles.You seem to have a hard on for the EU for some reason. You need to let it go You may have that opinion although I will say it is not true. I just think that we will rue the day (economically) that we leave. I also think there are some unscrupulous people that are lying to you. I'm intrigued by the string of lies that seem to get repeated ad nauseum, even when they are shown to be lies. I'm even more saddened when people believe them. I will keep presenting facts in the hope that people will read them and ask themselves the questions. If you wish to believe something different to me then so be it...just don't do it on a tissue of lies. I have had oldboy complaining that he has different facts from me (you either have a fact or not a fact) and now Dave U is slating my facts and claiming they are opinions. Neither, when asked, has presented anything in the way of evidence and one is currently getting very sweary and insulting. You have to wonder why... EDIT: I note you dodged the question though. That has been the real feature of this thread. Avoid the question...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 17:21:54 GMT
What was the question again ? Is nws right and everybody that disagrees with him wrong. Your sounding like a little fascist
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 19:47:33 GMT
What was the question again ? Is nws right and everybody that disagrees with him wrong. Your sounding like a little fascist Extreme left or extreme right, two sides of the same coin and both are dictatorships.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2020 10:40:04 GMT
What was the question again ? Is nws right and everybody that disagrees with him wrong. Your sounding like a little fascist Answer the point about written down rules
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 10:27:17 GMT
Denial of Facts is why we are taking the crazy decisions we are. Any sane person could not have voted for Johnson or Brexit without doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 11:37:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 12:23:03 GMT
Look on the bright side, the oil guys that have invested heavily in the CONservative party are beginning to get a great return on their investment. In December, the Saudis promised to support oil prices by cutting production, and now the potential of a war in the Middle East could be on the horizon. It's win win for BJ's and JRM's bosses.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 22:53:14 GMT
Although circuit board wallpaper comes pretty high on that list too...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 0:36:30 GMT
Look on the bright side, the oil guys that have invested heavily in the CONservative party are beginning to get a great return on their investment. In December, the Saudis promised to support oil prices by cutting production, and now the potential of a war in the Middle East could be on the horizon. It's win win for BJ's and JRM's bosses. Ha ha...fancy a champers night out to celebrate?😂😂
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