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Post by Dan on Nov 16, 2022 16:14:48 GMT
I think 'just go with the flow'
Only the owners can influence the way forward, so rather than mapping out your wishes or preferences, you should just enjoy the ride.
Supporters are like passengers on a train, we are there for the journey, nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by sword65 on Nov 16, 2022 17:58:23 GMT
Crazy descion to sack John Askey by York. Looks like a cost cutting exercise. York fans incensed at decision, many of them looking forward to NLN football next season.
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Post by jdl on Nov 16, 2022 19:18:31 GMT
I think 'just go with the flow' Only the owners can influence the way forward, so rather than mapping out your wishes or preferences, you should just enjoy the ride. Supporters are like passengers on a train, we are there for the journey, nothing more, nothing less. Can't make money running a train without passengers, though.
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Post by sword65 on Nov 16, 2022 19:42:19 GMT
I think 'just go with the flow' Only the owners can influence the way forward, so rather than mapping out your wishes or preferences, you should just enjoy the ride. Supporters are like passengers on a train, we are there for the journey, nothing more, nothing less. Can't make money running a train without passengers, though. I dont know,LNER did for years.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Nov 16, 2022 19:43:25 GMT
Crazy descion to sack John Askey by York. Looks like a cost cutting exercise. Nothing to do with cost cutting, York fans are saying he had a falling out with the chairman and now said owner/chairman wants to bring in one of his friends as manager. Jonathan Greening is rumoured to be taking the job
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Post by daveu on Nov 16, 2022 22:24:59 GMT
Crazy descion to sack John Askey by York. Looks like a cost cutting exercise. Nothing to do with cost cutting, York fans are saying he had a falling out with the chairman and now said owner/chairman wants to bring in one of his friends as manager. Jonathan Greening is rumoured to be taking the job Greening has tweeted that he wouldn't go to a club that treated their manager so badly and in any case likes to pick his own team and formation.
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Post by hongkongstone on Nov 17, 2022 4:01:45 GMT
Crazy descion to sack John Askey by York. Looks like a cost cutting exercise. I can assure you that the York fans are up in arms about it especially as they were in a play-off place only 2 weeks ago. Askey rebuilt the squad over the summer after promotion and have started the season well (I am sure we would be more than happy to swap places with them).
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Post by swampy on Nov 17, 2022 4:25:53 GMT
Worth listening to the special on BBC Radio York.
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Post by jdl on Nov 17, 2022 10:30:22 GMT
Can't make money running a train without passengers, though. I dont know,LNER did for years. Yeah - wasn't my strongest argument...
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Post by Benny on Nov 17, 2022 17:36:24 GMT
Was reading York owner’s son is a registered player. Also reading a few other aspects to this story. Makes the Ash out morons look even more ridiculous.
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Post by jdl on Nov 17, 2022 22:32:37 GMT
I wonder what the wider opinion of fans is on our 'ambitions'? Football league? National League be stability? Yo-yo between NLS and NL? Smaller clubs than ours have shown they can prosper. Likewise smaller towns than Maidstone. These days though it just seems to be how much money you can get behind you. For me, purely with our current owners, I wouldn't be unhappy to see the NL and L2 merged, with us in the southern half of L2. However, if such a merger happened, I wouldn't be too upset if we were to establish ourselves as a top non League club, especially if being in the top four of such a league led to a new cup competition among such clubs around the country. My vote is struggle in the "nether regions" of NL (sounds painful!), SURVIVE - (no yo-yo'ing- I for one dont want to be playing the Hemels and the Hungerfords again!) - and build ourselves up to being able to maintain our NL position (like the Maidenheads and Bromleys) and build, build, build, financially and in terms of getting our heads around how it works in NL the best we can. Then, at some point a great Stones team will emerge for a genuine push at promotion, by which time (hopefully) we would be ready for EFL. We may even get the stand on the Riverside to make our ground truly EFL standard along the way, or we may have to hold on to that money to be able to rip up the pitch a la Harrogate and Sutton. I loved our time during the 3 in 4 and the tussles against Faversham, Sittingbourne etc in front of the same crowds we get today and it was a genuinely great period to watch football at the Gallagher but we arent an NLS or Isthmiabn club - our heritage is strong Conference/Southern League Prem/Alliance Prem club who once made it briefly to EFL, and wants to again - but this time stay there! It may be a five year kind of plan, but thats my preference. What does everyone else think? Missed this when it was posted, but this is pretty spot on for me. I couldn't really give a toss about the EFL (although, if it happens one day, I won't be complaining...), but I've had enough of NS and below. So survival this season is crucial for me. Previously, people have argued that there's no point in being in a league/division you're not trying to win, but I think the NL is so difficult to win for a club of our resources, that that really is no problem. As you say, if clubs like Maidenhead and Bromley can survive in the NL and enjoy their football, I don't see why we can't. Not so sure about combining the NL and L2 into a regionalised L2, though. Clubs tend to want to be in national leagues, not regional ones - despite the drawbacks like travel distance. I feel that the NL becoming the EFL's L3 is more likely. After all this is, in everything but name, the reality already.
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Post by sword65 on Nov 18, 2022 7:51:29 GMT
My vote is struggle in the "nether regions" of NL (sounds painful!), SURVIVE - (no yo-yo'ing- I for one dont want to be playing the Hemels and the Hungerfords again!) - and build ourselves up to being able to maintain our NL position (like the Maidenheads and Bromleys) and build, build, build, financially and in terms of getting our heads around how it works in NL the best we can. Then, at some point a great Stones team will emerge for a genuine push at promotion, by which time (hopefully) we would be ready for EFL. We may even get the stand on the Riverside to make our ground truly EFL standard along the way, or we may have to hold on to that money to be able to rip up the pitch a la Harrogate and Sutton. I loved our time during the 3 in 4 and the tussles against Faversham, Sittingbourne etc in front of the same crowds we get today and it was a genuinely great period to watch football at the Gallagher but we arent an NLS or Isthmiabn club - our heritage is strong Conference/Southern League Prem/Alliance Prem club who once made it briefly to EFL, and wants to again - but this time stay there! It may be a five year kind of plan, but thats my preference. What does everyone else think? Missed this when it was posted, but this is pretty spot on for me. I couldn't really give a toss about the EFL (although, if it happens one day, I won't be complaining...), but I've had enough of NS and below. So survival this season is crucial for me. Previously, people have argued that there's no point in being in a league/division you're not trying to win, but I think the NL is so difficult to win for a club of our resources, that that really is no problem. As you say, if clubs like Maidenhead and Bromley can survive in the NL and enjoy their football, I don't see why we can't. Not so sure about combining the NL and L2 into a regionalised L2, though. Clubs tend to want to be in national leagues, not regional ones - despite the drawbacks like travel distance. I feel that the NL becoming the EFL's L3 is more likely. After all this is, in everything but name, the reality already. Surely though if it becomes EFL 3 we will be relegated as the ground is not EFL standard and its 3G which is not accepted and never will be.
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Post by 61666 on Nov 18, 2022 8:43:57 GMT
Presumably, we wouldn't be the only ones, so a couple of year's grace would be granted? However, depending on how the new film about Covid funding is received, we could be out on our ear anyway🤫🤫🤫.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Nov 18, 2022 22:09:01 GMT
My vote is struggle in the "nether regions" of NL (sounds painful!), SURVIVE - (no yo-yo'ing- I for one dont want to be playing the Hemels and the Hungerfords again!) - and build ourselves up to being able to maintain our NL position (like the Maidenheads and Bromleys) and build, build, build, financially and in terms of getting our heads around how it works in NL the best we can. Then, at some point a great Stones team will emerge for a genuine push at promotion, by which time (hopefully) we would be ready for EFL. We may even get the stand on the Riverside to make our ground truly EFL standard along the way, or we may have to hold on to that money to be able to rip up the pitch a la Harrogate and Sutton. I loved our time during the 3 in 4 and the tussles against Faversham, Sittingbourne etc in front of the same crowds we get today and it was a genuinely great period to watch football at the Gallagher but we arent an NLS or Isthmiabn club - our heritage is strong Conference/Southern League Prem/Alliance Prem club who once made it briefly to EFL, and wants to again - but this time stay there! It may be a five year kind of plan, but thats my preference. What does everyone else think? Missed this when it was posted, but this is pretty spot on for me. I couldn't really give a toss about the EFL (although, if it happens one day, I won't be complaining...), but I've had enough of NS and below. So survival this season is crucial for me. Previously, people have argued that there's no point in being in a league/division you're not trying to win, but I think the NL is so difficult to win for a club of our resources, that that really is no problem. As you say, if clubs like Maidenhead and Bromley can survive in the NL and enjoy their football, I don't see why we can't. Not so sure about combining the NL and L2 into a regionalised L2, though. Clubs tend to want to be in national leagues, not regional ones - despite the drawbacks like travel distance. I feel that the NL becoming the EFL's L3 is more likely. After all this is, in everything but name, the reality already. How can you have enough of something if you were hardly ever there. Bizarre.
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Post by Sennockian69 on Nov 18, 2022 22:12:47 GMT
Missed this when it was posted, but this is pretty spot on for me. I couldn't really give a toss about the EFL (although, if it happens one day, I won't be complaining...), but I've had enough of NS and below. So survival this season is crucial for me. Previously, people have argued that there's no point in being in a league/division you're not trying to win, but I think the NL is so difficult to win for a club of our resources, that that really is no problem. As you say, if clubs like Maidenhead and Bromley can survive in the NL and enjoy their football, I don't see why we can't. Not so sure about combining the NL and L2 into a regionalised L2, though. Clubs tend to want to be in national leagues, not regional ones - despite the drawbacks like travel distance. I feel that the NL becoming the EFL's L3 is more likely. After all this is, in everything but name, the reality already. Surely though if it becomes EFL 3 we will be relegated as the ground is not EFL standard and its 3G which is not accepted and never will be. Don't ever expect JDL's post to have a logical thread and coherent narrative. He argues all points from all angles and wants to be taken seriously. Sorry I can't.
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