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Post by jdl on Nov 18, 2024 10:06:55 GMT
I didn't go but my take from what I have seen is that we didn't respect Horsham by playing an understrength team from the start (Sean and Nigel mentioned this topic on their preview). Given that we do have a full fixture list coming up would it not have been better to start with the 'first' team and get a quick couple of goals for an early lead on the understanding that they will be rested after 60 mins and then just carry out some game management? When have we (recently) ever scored "a quick couple of goals"?! |
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Post by OldBoy73 on Nov 18, 2024 17:38:06 GMT
Yeah - nice set up at Horsham apart from the floodlights which presented plenty of dark areas on the pitch. Perhaps they can spend their 'considerable' prize money from yesterday to get a few more candles I'm glad I wasn't the only one having trouble with the lights - I thought it was my eyes! But, apart from that, as others have said, it was a good day out (apart from the score...) - every other non-league club should visit Horsham to see how things should be done (including us). There was a lady at the entrance greeting Stones supporters as they came in! I was a bit taken aback by that, but that's what the club was like everywhere. It actually made me want to go back to our Isthmian Premier days - but we'd only win the ruddy thing and get promoted again! Indeed, JDL has encapsulated everything that Maidstone has lost as a club. |
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Post by jdl on Nov 18, 2024 22:01:24 GMT
I'm glad I wasn't the only one having trouble with the lights - I thought it was my eyes! But, apart from that, as others have said, it was a good day out (apart from the score...) - every other non-league club should visit Horsham to see how things should be done (including us). There was a lady at the entrance greeting Stones supporters as they came in! I was a bit taken aback by that, but that's what the club was like everywhere. It actually made me want to go back to our Isthmian Premier days - but we'd only win the ruddy thing and get promoted again! Indeed, JDL has encapsulated everything that Maidstone has lost as a club. Ho hum. I don't agree with that conclusion at all - you are misreading me to project your own negativity. There are a few, minor, things wrong with our club, but overall it's as much an example of a 'model' club as Horsham is - we're just at a different level, so the problems and solutions are different. We aren't the friendly club we were (eg hbs's problems when arriving late), but that can mostly be fixed by a more switched on day-to-day management. But some things (eg segregation, attracting a certain type of fan that we didn't use to, promotion expectations, etc) are just facts of life at our level. And will get 'worse' the higher we go. We can be a better club than we are, in minor ways, but we can never be the little club we were in the Isthmian days because we are who we are, and where we are. |
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Post by OldBoy73 on Nov 19, 2024 10:05:17 GMT
Indeed, JDL has encapsulated everything that Maidstone has lost as a club. Ho hum. I don't agree with that conclusion at all - you are misreading me to project your own negativity. There are a few, minor, things wrong with our club, but overall it's as much an example of a 'model' club as Horsham is - we're just at a different level, so the problems and solutions are different. We aren't the friendly club we were (eg hbs's problems when arriving late), but that can mostly be fixed by a more switched on day-to-day management. But some things (eg segregation, attracting a certain type of fan that we didn't use to, promotion expectations, etc) are just facts of life at our level. And will get 'worse' the higher we go. We can be a better club than we are, in minor ways, but we can never be the little club we were in the Isthmian days because we are who we are, and where we are. Ho hum - I think I read you accurately JDL - and simply shared my own LIKE opinion, not negativity. I share your wish sometimes to go back to the Isthmian days to get that true non league club atmosphere back so we are in agreement - I think you are just backtracking for abject fear of appearing negative, and your determination not to be in agreement with me! I have "liked" a lot of your posts lately, so have no problem agreeing with you! Of COURSE we can never turn the clock back and of COURSE we are a very different club now. My point, like yours, is that "every other non-league club should visit Horsham to see how things should be done (including us). Lets be that better club than we are you suggest by bringing back some of the more fan friendly ways when we were in Isthmian, like Horsham and, many others as well - many in NLS. Where we do differ I suppose is that I think they may be more than "minor" things to change as the core culture of an organisation tends to be dictated by the Management attitudes - and we would need everyone involved to have a mental paradigm shift and WANT to be a friendly non-league club> I think we are mistakenly still aiming to be an NL table topping professional club when we have neither the money, the resources nor the players to be anywhere near close to that. Or as Sword puts it we want to be a "BillyBigBollocks club". If NLS is to be our level, then please lets go back to being more of the a friendly non-league club. We can always grow the big bollocks later when we have to succumb to that world. |
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Post by jdl on Nov 19, 2024 10:31:20 GMT
Ho hum. I don't agree with that conclusion at all - you are misreading me to project your own negativity. There are a few, minor, things wrong with our club, but overall it's as much an example of a 'model' club as Horsham is - we're just at a different level, so the problems and solutions are different. We aren't the friendly club we were (eg hbs's problems when arriving late), but that can mostly be fixed by a more switched on day-to-day management. But some things (eg segregation, attracting a certain type of fan that we didn't use to, promotion expectations, etc) are just facts of life at our level. And will get 'worse' the higher we go. We can be a better club than we are, in minor ways, but we can never be the little club we were in the Isthmian days because we are who we are, and where we are. Ho hum - I think I read you accurately JDL - and simply shared my own LIKE opinion, not negativity. I share your wish sometimes to go back to the Isthmian days to get that true non league club atmosphere back so we are in agreement - I think you are just backtracking for abject fear of appearing negative, and your determination not to be in agreement with me! I have "liked" a lot of your posts lately, so have no problem agreeing with you! Of COURSE we can never turn the clock back and of COURSE we are a very different club now. My point, like yours, is that "every other non-league club should visit Horsham to see how things should be done (including us). Lets be that better club than we are you suggest by bringing back some of the more fan friendly ways when we were in Isthmian, like Horsham and, many others as well - many in NLS. Where we do differ I suppose is that I think they may be more than "minor" things to change as the core culture of an organisation tends to be dictated by the Management attitudes - and we would need everyone involved to have a mental paradigm shift and WANT to be a friendly non-league club> I think we are mistakenly still aiming to be an NL table topping professional club when we have neither the money, the resources nor the players to be anywhere near close to that. Or as Sword puts it we want to be a "BillyBigBollocks club". If NLS is to be our level, then please lets go back to being more of the a friendly non-league club. We can always grow the big bollocks later when we have to succumb to that world. I do NOT want to go back to Isthmian days. If you actually read my posts, you'd know that. |
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Post by Benny on Nov 19, 2024 12:45:09 GMT
We lost to Horsham. Big deal. Get over it.
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Post by Sword65 on Nov 19, 2024 12:51:04 GMT
Even if we had a nightmare season the club should avoid relegation and as long as we get 2000 fans then we will never again grace the Isthmian league in the future. The likes of Dover and Dartford reached for the stars but fell short of the moon and have now paid the heavy price of failure. Gravesend and Northfleet are heading back down barring a major Houdini act but have enough money to throw away to keep them clear of the Isthmian. Two years ago i would have loved it if we'd been in the Isthmian as i could have seen more games and it wouldn't have been so expensive but now my watching days are few and far between it doesn't matter to me what league we are in because of health and wealth problems seriously affect my attendance.
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