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Nov 16, 2024 21:12:11 GMT
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Post by Harry on Nov 16, 2024 21:12:11 GMT
Well one match tells you one thing and another match tells you something else.
I prefer to view the last 6/7 games and judge where the team is and where it needs to improve.
Today was a shocker. Thank goodness it was the Trophy.
Is is a sign of things to come or was it a one off ?
I suspect George will take on board the experience of this horror show.
Reinforces the need for 3/4 player reinforcements if we are to push for the play-offs.
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Post by barnestone on Nov 16, 2024 21:33:40 GMT
That was an abject performance - not sure who was worse the forwards or midfield -don't think anybody came out with any credit. You are right- the management are to blame. I have found the football this season, with the exception of 2 games, quite dull to watch. There is no pace in the side to get around the back of defences hence the football is quite sterile with far too much tippy -tappy football with the ball being passed around at the back. We are one of the leagues lowest goal scorers and quite often we only look dangerous at set- pieces. The midfield lacks any physical presence and get frequently get out muscled- we need someone like Sam Bone. The forwards today were inept and frankly are not good enough anyway. We desperately need someone to play alongside Aaron Blair. If we carry in this playing style we wont make the play offs.
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Post by joe on Nov 16, 2024 22:18:16 GMT
Why not ?
This playing style has taken as pretty close to the top of the form league.
According to the forum's statistics supremo, Stones are on course to come 2nd in the league, if we carry on and repeat the results of our last 6 league matches.
You may not like the style but the league results speak for themselves.
Happy that today's debacle doesn't count in the form league or change JDL's expert prediction.
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Post by jdl on Nov 16, 2024 22:41:26 GMT
It wasn't only us who had a bit of a mare...
NS clubs' fortune in today's FAT
Won (10):
Home:
Aveley
Chesham United
Enfield Town (9-8 on pens)
Salisbury
Slough Town (4-2 on pens)
Torquay United
Away:
Worthing
Eastbourne Borough (4-2 on pens)
Weymouth
Hampton & Richmond Borough
Lost (14):
Home:
Bath City
Boreham Wood
Dorking Wanderers
St Albans City
Welling United
Weston-super-Mare
Away:
Hemel Hempstead Town
Chippenham Town
Hornchurch
Tonbridge Angels
Maidstone United
Chelmsford City
Farnborough
Truro City
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Post by royalstone on Nov 16, 2024 22:56:35 GMT
WOW ! Just seen the post-match interview and George was rightfully scathing (without naming names) of some of our players. Along the lines that some of the players given a chance today were playing as if they're doing MUFC a favour rather than the other way round ie getting paid good money ....I reckon some of the fringe players/benchwarmers are dancing in the last chance saloon or could well be shown the door.
Yes, I know the management are not blameless and it appears there may have been some poor recruitment in the summer but personally I think they should be cut a bit of slack because :- 1. Today was poor but we are still on a decent run in the league. 2 Many of the summer signings look good imho such as Blair, Temi, Brooks, Seaman just to name four. 3 Today aside, the football has been improving imo. 4 as this week proved they are working with a limited budget. 5 and most importantly (for me) they are both reasonably inexperienced but still learning and improving.
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 16, 2024 23:07:32 GMT
How we go from here all depends whether we take the easy way out of trying to eek out way to the end of the season with what we have plus a few decent loans, or whether we invest in a proper striker. Sliding doors moment. George and Craig will be frustrated if it’s the former.
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Post by jdl on Nov 16, 2024 23:28:11 GMT
Why not ? This playing style has taken as pretty close to the top of the form league. According to the forum's statistics supremo, Stones are on course to come 2nd in the league, if we carry on and repeat the results of our last 6 league matches.You may not like the style but the league results speak for themselves. Happy that today's debacle doesn't count in the form league or change JDL's expert prediction. I am, of course, no expert, these are just my opinions. But if we carry on and repeat the results of the last 6 matches (all competitions) we won't be on course to come 2nd - or possibly even make the playoffs. You can't just dismiss today's 'performance' because it was in a different competition - it's the same team. If they can do that in the FAT, they can do it in the League too. |
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Post by jdl on Nov 16, 2024 23:31:46 GMT
WOW ! Just seen the post-match interview and George was rightfully scathing (without naming names) of some of our players. Along the lines that some of the players given a chance today were playing as if they're doing MUFC a favour rather than the other way round ie getting paid good money ....I reckon some of the fringe players/benchwarmers are dancing in the last chance saloon or could well be shown the door. Yes, I know the management are not blameless and it appears there may have been some poor recruitment in the summer but personally I think they should be cut a bit of slack because :- 1. Today was poor but we are still on a decent run in the league. 2 Many of the summer signings look good imho such as Blair, Temi, Brooks, Seaman just to name four. 3 Today aside, the football has been improving imo. 4 as this week proved they are working with a limited budget. 5 and most importantly (for me) they are both reasonably inexperienced but still learning and improving. Did he actually take any of the blame though? He devised the strategy and tactics, he selected the team, he chose which subs to bring on, and when. Too easy just to blame the players. |
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Post by royalstone on Nov 16, 2024 23:37:39 GMT
Why not ? This playing style has taken as pretty close to the top of the form league. According to the forum's statistics supremo, Stones are on course to come 2nd in the league, if we carry on and repeat the results of our last 6 league matches.You may not like the style but the league results speak for themselves. Happy that today's debacle doesn't count in the form league or change JDL's expert prediction. I am, of course, no expert, these are just my opinions. But if we carry on and repeat the results of the last 6 matches (all competitions) we won't be on course to come 2nd - or possibly even make the playoffs. You can't just dismiss today's 'performance' because it was in a different competition - it's the same team. If they can do that in the FAT, they can do it in the League too. Same squad maybe, but not "the same team" Blair and Corne both automatic starters if available and the likes of Fonkeu and Coulthirst (sorry , I dont like naming and shaming) not getting many minutes in the league for a reason. Also Riley and Sam Smith not getting many league minutes (apart from being loaned out) because they are both very much at development stage, |
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Post by jdl on Nov 16, 2024 23:46:39 GMT
I am, of course, no expert, these are just my opinions. But if we carry on and repeat the results of the last 6 matches (all competitions) we won't be on course to come 2nd - or possibly even make the playoffs. You can't just dismiss today's 'performance' because it was in a different competition - it's the same team. If they can do that in the FAT, they can do it in the League too. Same squad maybe, but not "the same team" Blair and Corne both automatic starters if available and the likes of Fonkeu and Coulthirst (sorry , I dont like naming and shaming) not getting many minutes in the league for a reason. Also Riley and Sam Smith not getting many minutes (apart from being loaned out) because they are both very much at development stage, Blair and Corne made some difference when they came on, and the youngsters were clearly out of their depth (no criticism, they all did their best). But, a) how different would it have been had it been league opposition (did we have several excellent players we just didn't bother with today?), and b) the 'team' includes George, etc - who obviously are capable of repeating the same thing in the league - remember Chelmsford? |
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Post by royalstone on Nov 16, 2024 23:50:00 GMT
I am a little disappointed we didn't go full strength today. I would love to see us progress in the FAT and one day get to Wembley. However I suppose the amount of midweek games we are playing at the moment esp one this coming Tuesday does kind of make sense that we used our 'squad' players.
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Post by royalstone on Nov 16, 2024 23:51:59 GMT
Blair and Corne made some difference when they came on, and the youngsters were clearly out of their depth (no criticism, they all did their best). But, a) how different would it have been had it been league opposition (did we have several excellent players we just didn't bother with today?), and b) the 'team' includes George, etc - who obviously are capable of repeating the same thing in the league - remember Chelmsford? Luckily I was working and missed that one  . Fair points tho |
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Post by tonyg on Nov 17, 2024 0:20:04 GMT
Blair and Corne made some difference when they came on Yes, we went 2-0 down ! We were disrespectful to Horsham with our initial team selection. We should have gone strong from the get go. We were disrespectful to all the travelling stones fans who paid good money to go there today. |
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Nov 17, 2024 1:08:02 GMT
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Post by royalstone on Nov 17, 2024 1:08:02 GMT
Blair and Corne made some difference when they came on Yes, we went 2-0 down ! We were disrespectful to Horsham with our initial team selection. We should have gone strong from the get go. We were disrespectful to all the travelling stones fans who paid good money to go there today. That was my initial thought as well but I can kind of understand it when we have a game Tuesday and we are in the middle of a v hectic fixture schedule. |
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Post by hongkongstone on Nov 17, 2024 4:32:19 GMT
I didn't go but my take from what I have seen is that we didn't respect Horsham by playing an understrength team from the start (Sean and Nigel mentioned this topic on their preview). Given that we do have a full fixture list coming up would it not have been better to start with the 'first' team and get a quick couple of goals for an early lead on the understanding that they will be rested after 60 mins and then just carry out some game management?
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. Fair points tho