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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 9, 2024 22:36:05 GMT
I thought we played some really good stuff today. We're moving the ball a lot quicker than we were at the start of the season and creating a lot more. Only criticism is that we should have scored more and put the game to bed, given our dominance. So often in football a team with only a one goal lead gets punished for not taking their chances and I really thought that was going to happen today. To be fair we saw the closing minutes out comfortably tho. I thought Ludowika did a good job /looked decent when he came on. Still hope that he could yet prove most of us wrong? People on this forum who say any other than super positive black and amber specs eyed view on this forum are criticised for stating unacceptable facts and truth and yes this forum is exactly the right place to do that not in the stadium when you want every player to do well. Also I’m sure everyone who quite rightly criticises Harry L would absolutely love to see him suddenly turn into a Levi or a Mo and head the ball like Duncan Ferguson and become a Stones legend.A real one. Good cameo today and we would love it to become more of course but come on is it likely? Sorry - being too negative/realistic again. Let’s all accept everyone has a right to an opinion- from black and amber specs to super negatives…..and to banter with each other about those different opinions. Not really. You’ll find most saying he isn’t likely to be good enough and that he isn’t good enough now. The “he’s a waste of space” Ludicrous stuff demeans us all. |
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Post by OldBoy73 on Nov 9, 2024 22:44:21 GMT
People on this forum who say any other than super positive black and amber specs eyed view on this forum are criticised for stating unacceptable facts and truth and yes this forum is exactly the right place to do that not in the stadium when you want every player to do well. Also I’m sure everyone who quite rightly criticises Harry L would absolutely love to see him suddenly turn into a Levi or a Mo and head the ball like Duncan Ferguson and become a Stones legend.A real one. Good cameo today and we would love it to become more of course but come on is it likely? Sorry - being too negative/realistic again. Let’s all accept everyone has a right to an opinion- from black and amber specs to super negatives…..and to banter with each other about those different opinions. Not really. You’ll find most saying he isn’t likely to be good enough and that he isn’t good enough now. The “he’s a waste of space” Ludicrous stuff demeans us all. Maybe - or are we just falling into woke speak and pandering to pc talk? Do fans football chants and songs now have to be non demeaning and sanitised to avoid offence? “The referees a slightly misguided fellow” for instance? It’s football and it’s the last bastion of life where you don’t have to worry about saying the slightest politically incorrect thing or have anything other than woke acceptable views - don’t wreck that! |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 9, 2024 22:46:48 GMT
Not really. You’ll find most saying he isn’t likely to be good enough and that he isn’t good enough now. The “he’s a waste of space” Ludicrous stuff demeans us all. Maybe - or are we just falling into woke speak and pandering to pc talk? Do fans football chants and songs now have to be non demeaning and sanitised to avoid offence? “The referees a slightly misguided fellow” for instance? It’s football and it’s the last bastion of life where you don’t have to worry about saying the slightest politically incorrect thing or have anything other than woke acceptable views - don’t wreck that! Maybe you’re right. If he is one of your own though? |
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Post by Benny on Nov 9, 2024 22:55:01 GMT
A few weeks ago some morons in the Genco were singing that Elokobi’s football was shit.
The man who gave us one of the greatest victories in the history of Maidstone, and probably saved us from financial disaster.
And do we want to encourage new players, or destroy their confidence and force them out of the club?
Some people should really go back to supporting their Premier League clubs on Sky TV.
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 9, 2024 22:57:06 GMT
A few weeks ago some morons in the Genco were singing that Elokobi’s football was shit. The man who gave us one of the greatest victories in the history of Maidstone, and probably saved us from financial disaster. And do we want to encourage new players, or destroy their confidence and force them out of the club? Some people should really go back to supporting their Premier League clubs on Sky TV. It’s frustrating when you are of the mind set you are (and I am). We are NLS and George is learning still. We have some very silly fans but they pays their money…. |
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Post by OldBoy73 on Nov 9, 2024 22:58:24 GMT
Maybe - or are we just falling into woke speak and pandering to pc talk? Do fans football chants and songs now have to be non demeaning and sanitised to avoid offence? “The referees a slightly misguided fellow” for instance? It’s football and it’s the last bastion of life where you don’t have to worry about saying the slightest politically incorrect thing or have anything other than woke acceptable views - don’t wreck that! Maybe you’re right. If he is one of your own though? Good point Woodstone and yes if he had been here a while maybe it would be different but with the Maidstone squads annual revolving door and mercenary nature of most professional non league players we seem to attract it’s difficult to see many of the team as one of our own other than Reiss and Raphe and Corne Dog maybe even Bivesh. Maybe if they stay more than one season we lose the right to be so critical. |
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Post by jdl on Nov 9, 2024 23:08:45 GMT
Mixed feelings about today.
A lot of the time we played sublime passing football that was a joy to watch. George seems to have settled on a side that really clicks and is going to move up the table rapidly. Thanks to our seven game unbeaten run, we are now third in the form table - two wins from our games in hand, would take us to just outside the play-offs.
But two things still worry me:
Firstly, the obvious one, we still aren't scoring enough goals. Even playing as well as we did today, we still spent almost the entire game tempting Fate to dish up a bit of bad luck. A fluke goal from Hornchurch, or a defensive mix-up - and we'd have dropped two points once again. A better side than Hornchurch could easily have punished us.
And secondly, the continuing question of Lodovica (OK, Dave?). He played better today - for which people seem to have concluded that he might just be this season's Amantchi. But, since when does a few minutes of doing what he's paid to do and nearly (but, actually, not) getting us a goal, make him a good prospect? For the rest of the time, he looked as lost as he usually does. Don't get me wrong, I remember doubting both Amantchi and Faal too (although only right at the beginning), and I'd love Lodovica to prove me wrong and turn out to be the missing partner for Blair. But I still don't see it. What he did today was the bare minimum we'd expect of any forward, nothing more than that. And, taking off Papadopoulos, to give him a chance (how many does he get?) with our record of f**king up 1-0 wins, was a high risk strategy.
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 9, 2024 23:24:59 GMT
Mixed feelings about today. A lot of the time we played sublime passing football that was a joy to watch. George seems to have settled on a side that really clicks and is going to move up the table rapidly. Thanks to our seven game unbeaten run, we are now third in the form table - two wins from our games in hand, would take us to just outside the play-offs. But two things still worry me: Firstly, the obvious one, we still aren't scoring enough goals. Even playing as well as we did today, we still spent almost the entire game tempting Fate to dish up a bit of bad luck. A fluke goal from Hornchurch, or a defensive mix-up - and we'd have dropped two points once again. A better side than Hornchurch could easily have punished us. And secondly, the continuing question of Lodovica (OK, Dave?). He played better today - for which people seem to have concluded that he might just be this season's Amantchi. But, since when does a few minutes of doing what he's paid to do and nearly (but, actually, not) getting us a goal, make him a good prospect? For the rest of the time, he looked as lost as he usually does. Don't get me wrong, I remember doubting both Amantchi and Faal too (although only right at the beginning), and I'd love Lodovica to prove me wrong and turn out to be the missing partner for Blair. But I still don't see it. What he did today was the bare minimum we'd expect of any forward, nothing more than that. And, taking off Papadopoulos, to give him a chance (how many does he get?) with our record of f**king up 1-0 wins, was a high risk strategy. I am pretty sure we are looking for an upgrade on HL. Just marking sure we get the right man? |
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Post by nws on Nov 10, 2024 7:24:11 GMT
What is becoming more apparent about HL is that is control and touch is looking better. However, unless George can encourage him to become more physical and, most particularly, JUMP to win headers then I struggle to see him lasting the season. There is still a sneaking suspicion within me that a goal could 'up confidence' and we might see a different player.
One weird thing is that he does seem to unsettle other sides
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Post by nick on Nov 10, 2024 8:40:04 GMT
Fair enough nws, but have you checked out his career statistics ?
They are atrocious. No success anywhere and he's knocking on mid twenties now.
OK, George must have seem something and just occasionally a player can kick on later on in his playing career but if I were you I wouldn't bet my house on it.
The pedigree between Harry and Aaron is vast and it shows.
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Post by daveu on Nov 10, 2024 9:32:13 GMT
Not really. You’ll find most saying he isn’t likely to be good enough and that he isn’t good enough now. The “he’s a waste of space” Ludicrous stuff demeans us all. Maybe - or are we just falling into woke speak and pandering to pc talk? Do fans football chants and songs now have to be non demeaning and sanitised to avoid offence? “The referees a slightly misguided fellow” for instance? It’s football and it’s the last bastion of life where you don’t have to worry about saying the slightest politically incorrect thing or have anything other than woke acceptable views - don’t wreck that! Insulting the ref is part of the game. Personally I wouldn’t join in the wanker chants because I think it makes the ref more inclined to favour the opposition. Insulting your own player because he isn’t good enough shouldn’t be part of the game. By all means criticise but don’t make it personal. It’s not woke, it’s just not being a neanderthal. |
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Post by pwoodstone on Nov 10, 2024 11:22:47 GMT
A few observations How did we only score one Why was the second disallowed Why was the blatant push in the box not a penalty. How did Hornchurch still have eleven players on the pitch at half time. Surely calling the linesman a f**king idiot is a straight red, not to mention a few tasty challenges. It was offside, after seeing the highlights. Wraiths tackle was not that bad, just strong, so no red. Not really a foul. |
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Post by royalstone on Nov 10, 2024 13:21:31 GMT
Greenidge was not in the keepers view so according to modern interpretation of the offside rule not interfering when the shot went in. He may or may not have been offside in the build up tho when the ball ricocheted ( that spelling doesn't look right ?) towards him. Great spot by the linesman if he was.
I agree Wraight's challenge not a red but their second booking (studs in our players thigh) should have been a straight red.
Disclaimer :- All the above just my opinion.
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Post by pigbag on Nov 10, 2024 13:42:02 GMT
I think Ludo had his best game so far and maybe Georges explanation that he was coming back from 6 months out with injury is the explanation. He looked like a player against Hornchurch, a good dribble and an excellent lay off which should have led to a goal. It is not easy to make an impact in the short time that a sub has on the pitch but Ludo did OK and I am one of his biggest critics. He needs more confidence and more commitment to win headers, he seems to wait for the ball rather than attacking it as our central defenders do. He is not the answer but if he keeps improving he could do a job for us.
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Post by daveu on Nov 10, 2024 13:42:06 GMT
Greenidge was not in the keepers view so according to modern interpretation of the offside rule not interfering when the shot went in. He may or may not have been offside in the build up tho when the ball ricocheted ( that spelling doesn't look right ?) towards him. Great spot by the linesman if he was. I agree Wraight's challenge not a red but their second booking (studs in our players thigh) should have been a straight red. Disclaimer :- All the above just my opinion. Unfortunately the ball bounced of him back to Blair |
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