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Dagenham
Apr 2, 2018 20:42:45 GMT
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Post by 61666 on Apr 2, 2018 20:42:45 GMT
Something radical required. DeHavilland back would be a bonus as we could revert to 3-5-2. Only Lafayette worth keeping up front, with the likes of Orsei, Coker, Wraight, given a go. Luer doesn't appear ready for this league but the others might just have the advantage of not being well known and therefore capable of surprising a few. There again, given that every point matters, maybe we should forget about scoring goals and aim for five 0-0 draws.
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Post by nws on Apr 2, 2018 20:46:53 GMT
Something radical required. DeHavilland back would be a bonus as we could revert to 3-5-2. Only Lafayette worth keeping up front, with the likes of Orsei, Coker, Wraight, given a go. Luer doesn't appear ready for this league but the others might just have the advantage of not being well known and therefore capable of surprising a few. There again, given that every point matters, maybe we should forget about scoring goals and aim for five 0-0 draws. I'm beginning to think your last statement might be our best bet, as I cannot see goals from anyone. We also seem to have reverted to poor defending. What were they doing on that first goal? How much space were Dagenham given to get crosses in today?
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Post by overthehillstone on Apr 2, 2018 20:47:11 GMT
Jay aint going anywhere, our owners have already said his job is safe even if we go down and dont come back up straight away. bit embarrassing given what the owners were saying at the beginning of the season..... "aiming for the play -offs" etc. 2 wins in half a season of matches - he deserves to go but i guess he wont be but if we go down it puts a big dent in his managerial ambitions - personally i think this will be as high as he goes in his career. Loyalty is one thing but this is blind faith.. Pardew gets sacked today for 1 win in 18, we have 2 in 23
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Post by overthehillstone on Apr 2, 2018 20:49:06 GMT
As people are questing Jay’s position at the end of the season. If he does go who would or could we get to replace Jay as manager and will improve us? Jay aint going anywhere, our owners have already said his job is safe even if we go down and dont come back up straight away. Someone that knows how to play a fast passing game on a good surface
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Dagenham
Apr 2, 2018 20:52:18 GMT
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Post by pieman1982 on Apr 2, 2018 20:52:18 GMT
Players like Reason must be mustard in training because in a majority of games he offers nothing! Slow and appears unfit. He also takes a majority of set pieces and is poor at that. I really want Jay to do well like most fans, but I really question his thinking at times. I make comments to my Dad whilst watching and hear people talking around me and we all seem to think the same regarding team solection and tactics, but Jay rarely makes changes when they seam obvious. I honestly believe this team wouldn’t beat the 11 we started with when we beat Stevenage at home in the FA cup. We started 4-4-2 WORGAN MILLS, COYLE, MILES, SIMPSON FLISHER, ROGERS, PARKINSON, BODKIN MAY, COLLIN
MAN FOR MAN we are stronger now, but that team played well together in a basic no messing formation. Yes we were in an easier League, but we were solid. Made Stevenage look average.
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Dagenham
Apr 2, 2018 21:20:58 GMT
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Post by pmhnot on Apr 2, 2018 21:20:58 GMT
As people are questing Jay’s position at the end of the season. If he does go who would or could we get to replace Jay as manager and will improve us? Peter Taylor or Gary Hill would be decent candidates !!
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Post by jdl on Apr 2, 2018 21:37:34 GMT
Funny isn't it, that when Jay put the team together that saved us last season and put us top of the form table for the last few weeks, no one wanted him sacked? And funny again that when he built on that team and we started the season so well that many of us were seriously thinking we could make the play-offs, still no one thought he should be sacked?
This is not the fickle, money obsessed, plastic Premier, this is local, down-to-earth, football, where we still have some values you can't measure in pound notes - like loyalty to, and faith in, those who helped make all this possible. One of the reasons I watch non-league football, and support the Stones, is that it's different from all the shite in the leagues above us. If we were the sort of club who sacked the guy who got us where we are just because we've had a bad season on a low budget, I wouldn't be supporting that club.
Either we get where we're going the right way, or we don't bother. If that isn't what you want, you're supporting the wrong club - try that bunch over the hill, or one of the sugar daddy sides. You'll be happier there.
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Post by toonarmy on Apr 2, 2018 21:49:44 GMT
As people are questing Jay’s position at the end of the season. If he does go who would or could we get to replace Jay as manager and will improve us? Peter Taylor or Gary Hill would be decent candidates !! Are you f**king real, I wouldn’t want either of those 2 managing us, I have faith in Jay and believe the owners have learnt a very valuable lesson this season, well I hope so
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Post by ronaldostone on Apr 3, 2018 7:11:23 GMT
Funny isn't it, that when Jay put the team together that saved us last season and put us top of the form table for the last few weeks, no one wanted him sacked? And funny again that when he built on that team and we started the season so well that many of us were seriously thinking we could make the play-offs, still no one thought he should be sacked? This is not the fickle, money obsessed, plastic Premier, this is local, down-to-earth, football, where we still have some values you can't measure in pound notes - like loyalty to, and faith in, those who helped make all this possible. One of the reasons I watch non-league football, and support the Stones, is that it's different from all the shite in the leagues above us. If we were the sort of club who sacked the guy who got us where we are just because we've had a bad season on a low budget, I wouldn't be supporting that club. Either we get where we're going the right way, or we don't bother. If that isn't what you want, you're supporting the wrong club - try that bunch over the hill, or one of the sugar daddy sides. You'll be happier there. We are not on a low budget for this league ... and sorry managers move on just like players . Just see what would happen if jay gets a better offer ( he won’t ) .
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Post by nws on Apr 3, 2018 7:35:21 GMT
Funny isn't it, that when Jay put the team together that saved us last season and put us top of the form table for the last few weeks, no one wanted him sacked? And funny again that when he built on that team and we started the season so well that many of us were seriously thinking we could make the play-offs, still no one thought he should be sacked? This is not the fickle, money obsessed, plastic Premier, this is local, down-to-earth, football, where we still have some values you can't measure in pound notes - like loyalty to, and faith in, those who helped make all this possible. One of the reasons I watch non-league football, and support the Stones, is that it's different from all the shite in the leagues above us. If we were the sort of club who sacked the guy who got us where we are just because we've had a bad season on a low budget, I wouldn't be supporting that club. Either we get where we're going the right way, or we don't bother. If that isn't what you want, you're supporting the wrong club - try that bunch over the hill, or one of the sugar daddy sides. You'll be happier there. We are not on a low budget for this league ... and sorry managers move on just like players . Just see what would happen if jay gets a better offer ( he won’t ) . What is our budget? What are the budgets of other clubs?
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Dagenham
Apr 3, 2018 7:39:15 GMT
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Post by ronaldostone on Apr 3, 2018 7:39:15 GMT
We are not on a low budget for this league ... and sorry managers move on just like players . Just see what would happen if jay gets a better offer ( he won’t ) . What is our budget? What are the budgets of other clubs? Not sure on the exact numbers but we are firmly “in the middle” according to an owner quote
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Dagenham
Apr 3, 2018 8:16:58 GMT
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Post by hammerstone on Apr 3, 2018 8:16:58 GMT
Not sure why Reason keeps starting. Doesn't add a great deal and his set piece delivery is atrocious at best.
Nervous times ahead. Thought we turned a corner with the Torquay/Sutton and Macclesfield perofmenances but we've gone back a few months in terms of playing standard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2018 8:42:38 GMT
Just wondering. Leaving Jay aside, what kind of a contract would a new incoming manager demand on the club? I would assume that a 'top rated' manager would demand some kind of compensation clause be included if the contract is terminated early by the club. Could the club afford it, especially multiple times? What do you think Barry Fry would demand?
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Post by jdl on Apr 3, 2018 10:18:53 GMT
Just wondering. Leaving Jay aside, what kind of a contract would a new incoming manager demand on the club? I would assume that a 'top rated' manager would demand some kind of compensation clause be included if the contract is terminated early by the club. Could the club afford it, especially multiple times? What do you think Barry Fry would demand? An old age pension by now, I would think.
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Post by jdl on Apr 3, 2018 10:25:19 GMT
It's a good point though. Jay took the post as a novice manager, stepping up from the playing staff, and probably on a very low salary. No doubt his salary has improved a lot since then, but I suspect it is still low by NL standards. And I doubt if he's got all the 'usual' nonsense attached to it.
A new manager would almost certainly be on a higher salary and have all sorts of clauses, as you suggest.
Another good reason (not a phrase I expect to type at the moment!) for keeping Jay!
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