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Post by daveu on Jan 2, 2017 11:11:14 GMT
shame about digs aimed at Pax who has turned in 3 successive 8/10 performances for the team he is a much better player than daveu's history of faint praise and lukewarm posts have suggested
I do agree though that Rogers does a decent covering/defensive sort of job most of the time, allowing Jack a good deal more freedom where his link up play is much improved having said that pretty sure that JP got in plenty more winning tackles and interceptions than Rogers v Dover in both matches
but they actually making a good pairing in the centre of the park, this is not the problem with the team we are still leaking goals at the back and not scoring goals at the front and we are not getting any better in those areas of the game ! It wasn't a criticism of Paxman, I was pointing out that without Rogers, Paxman couldn't play the way he does but would have to cut back on the creative side of his game. He does play himself into trouble at times, and did again yesterday, at least a couple of times, but that's to be expected of a player who always wants to try and do something with the ball, but for people to criticise Rogers while at the same time praising Paxman is just ridiculous, because it's at least partly down to Rogers that Paxman can be the player he is. |
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Post by Nick on Jan 2, 2017 11:29:18 GMT
converts into the Jack Paxman fan club are always welcome !
Rogers will never be the same sort of crowd pleaser - he's not particularly skillful or creative
but he does an important job as a holding/defensive midfielder
how well does he do it ?
when the team's goals against column is very nearly the worst in the league
problems are at both ends of the pitch
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Post by jakeyboi on Jan 2, 2017 11:39:56 GMT
I have made a promise not too be to critical so here goes. On Flisher he should not be in the line up, he looks way off the pace after about 30-40 mins, so swap him for BJT, next I would drop Coyle who is clearly out of his depth, so he goes back to being an expensive squad player, last night apart from Dover,s superb finishing we was not that different to them, the story of the season is we get a rare chance in a game an do not take it,we must learn from this quickly before it,s too late. As Nick says the next few days JS will need to be very sharp in the transfer market we need proven goal-scorer not someone who might become one.Also a good midfielder who can dictate a game and it,s pace. So get your crystal ball out Jay and look long an hard before we have another picture of you shaking the hand of another waste of space.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 11:51:33 GMT
A lot if restrained debate today - which is good. A half decent performance let down by poor finishing and some individual mistakes - not a great combination. In my opinion three players struggled - flisher (who just looks a little short of pace and technique at this level), driver (looks vulnerable against pace) and Rogers (not mobile enough to do his role). Can't criticise the effort especially vaz, pax and loza. But we desperately need an injection of new blood - central striker, holding midfielder and probably central defence. Keep looking at those last 6 matches in April and we have to act now. Excellent Post. I still haven't decided whether to vote for Paxman or Loza as my MOTM. I thought that Paxman gave the best performance that I have seen from him. Maybe it's a confidence issue as he now realises that he is the Team's leading midfield player given that Healey & Sweeney have gone. Wouldn't surprise me if a League Club came in for him. Saturday's game is now even more crucial. |
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Post by senna34165 on Jan 2, 2017 11:54:50 GMT
We need to start finishing the numerous chances we are creating.
Ach must surely be fit now, so lets try Ach and Lokko at CB.
That with an on fire striker and I really do think we will climb into a safe league position.
So, line up for next game!
Worgan
Driver Ach Loklo Mills
Vas Paxman Evans BJT
Loko Yemi
Or role the dice;
Worgan
Driver Ach Loklo Mills
BJT Paxman Evans Flisher
Vas
Loko
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Post by toonarmy on Jan 2, 2017 11:57:23 GMT
I am a new convert to the Jack Paxman fan club, I thought he played some lovely football yesterday, however he is still prone to the odd lapse but I will put that down to his age and I can only see him getting better and better
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Post by stonepaperscissors on Jan 2, 2017 11:58:06 GMT
Makes me chuckle the numbers of games we play that are a 'must win' game.
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Post by steveh21 on Jan 2, 2017 12:09:52 GMT
We need to start finishing the numerous chances we are creating.
Ach must surely be fit now, so lets try Ach and Lokko at CB.
That with an on fire striker and I really do think we will climb into a safe league position.
So, line up for next game!
Worgan
Driver Ach Loklo Mills
Vas Paxman Evans BJT
Loko Yemi
Or role the dice;
Worgan
Driver Ach Loklo Mills
BJT Paxman Evans Flisher
Vas
Loko
[/quote New guy is a good finisher according to Jay surely after the chances we missed yesterday we should start with him? |
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Post by mrplow on Jan 2, 2017 12:22:19 GMT
Pretty obvious it's at the back where we're struggling I wasn't convinced over the summer that we had a strong enough defence, infact most of the players we brought in haven't been great. The goals we conceded yesterday were unacceptable and that was during one of our best performances of the season. We can't afford football league players, nobody wants to play for us because we don't have the money. We've got to stick with this side and hope for the best.
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Post by senna34165 on Jan 2, 2017 12:54:22 GMT
We need to start finishing the numerous chances we are creating.
Ach must surely be fit now, so lets try Ach and Lokko at CB.
That with an on fire striker and I really do think we will climb into a safe league position.
So, line up for next game!
Worgan
Driver Ach Loklo Mills
Vas Paxman Evans BJT
Loko Yemi
Or role the dice;
Worgan
Driver Ach Loklo Mills
BJT Paxman Evans Flisher
Vas
Loko
[/quote New guy is a good finisher according to Jay surely after the chances we missed yesterday we should start with him? Wasn't that impressed with him but maybe your right, give him a start maybe he would have put us 2-0 up yesterday! |
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Post by pieman1982 on Jan 2, 2017 13:13:00 GMT
Here I go with yet another opinion. I love this club as much as any other fan on here and will be around like the rest of you long after this squad and management have long gone.
So we rightly dominated and won the Ryman Premier with a very well balanced team built on a good defense. We rightly moved up to the Conference South and added to our strong Ryman Premier team, which on paper should have finished somewhere near mid table at best the play offs. We played beyond our means most of the season with our usual lull in December and January. Again we never scored many goals, usually winning 1-0, but again built the team on a strong defense.
So we move to the top flight of Non league football with the backbone of the squad being top Ryman players who played out of their skins for the whole of the Conference South campaign and ask them to compete in a league with only about 6 semi pro clubs.
When I look at the players Jay has replaced I truly believe we currently have a better squad. Is it good enough for this league??
We have swapped Frannie for Jamar, Jay May for Yemi and Manny for Acheampong to name a few. Are they better players? I believe they are better footballers, but have we no longer got a good mix of players.
We play on a perfectly flat pitch with no width perfect for a team that play the ball on the floor and run at people so the likes of Greenhalgh, Paxman, Karragannis and BJT on paper are the type of players that should thrive on 3G. However we can all see its not currently working. We have no height anymore to deal with high balls and not enough confidence to play to feet.
Yes we need players, that is obvious, but there clearly is a financial plan we are not aware of.
The club is a victim of its own success. We have moved quicker than the club as a whole is able to cope with. Yes the Town is Big enough to support a healthy League One Team, but unless Maidstone is bought by a Russian Billionaire its going to take many years.
Survival would indeed be a huge success and relegation would be heartbreaking, but not the end of the world.
All we can ask for this season is the effort the team put in last night, which was massive and hope our luck changes. A couple of decent signings will help, but Jay has his work cut out finding the players we need with what the club is currently able to offer them.
COYS..
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Post by 61666 on Jan 2, 2017 13:30:17 GMT
In the absence of anyone new, maybe the first task is to decide who to leave out and then who to replace them with.
If Driver getting out of his depth, maybe BJT could fill in. Has done well in the past, but there again is our top scorer too...
If Rogers not doing enough, Evans the obvious alternative, but if Flisher is not dropped, then have him doing Rogers role in midfield might not be the worst call.
Up front, Nguessian looks the obvious change to Yemi, who has actually done OK coming on late as an impact sub.
Likewise if Coyle past his best, ACH needs to come in.
Whatever the 'best' side on paper, it also needs to reflect what Guisely have to offer as opposition. Best of luck to Jay, let's hope he picks the right side and even has a new option or two.
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Post by richstone on Jan 2, 2017 14:19:29 GMT
In the absence of anyone new, maybe the first task is to decide who to leave out and then who to replace them with. If Driver getting out of his depth, maybe BJT could fill in. Has done well in the past, but there again is our top scorer too... If Rogers not doing enough, Evans the obvious alternative, but if Flisher is not dropped, then have him doing Rogers role in midfield might not be the worst call. Up front, Nguessian looks the obvious change to Yemi, who has actually done OK coming on late as an impact sub. Likewise if Coyle past his best, ACH needs to come in. Whatever the 'best' side on paper, it also needs to reflect what Guisely have to offer as opposition. Best of luck to Jay, let's hope he picks the right side and even has a new option or two. Flish sitting in front on the centre backs isn't the craziest idea. Something's not right with him - he doesn't even win much in the air anymore. Its either drop and/or move on or change positio.Evans is a tidy if unspectacular player, who also doesn't have much pace but uses the ball well. Need a better one! CB is less clear Lokko's positionning at times is poor and he doesn't always get enough clearance with headers. Coyle has little pace and isnt the loudest player in the world. Ach definitely organises the defence more than the other two. Need a better one! Scoring goals - noone in the squad that can do this - assuming nguesson isn't the one. We need more than serve McQueen and a triumph to escape from this one! |
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Post by Sennockian69 on Jan 3, 2017 0:40:40 GMT
Steve McQueen , Clint Eastwood , Tom Cruise & Bruce Willis won't be enough to win the battle - we need proper ballers.
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Post by jdl on Jan 3, 2017 21:54:15 GMT
After sitting through Sunday's mauling, I can easily understand why so many on here think the solution to our problems is a reliable goal scorer.
But the facts don't really support that notion.
True, our goal scoring record is abysmal - our top scorer (with a mighty six goals) is our penalty taker, our second best scorer (and top, from open play) has left the club, and our third best hasn't actually scored a league goal since Sept 17th.
But actually our 'goals for' isn't the worst in the league, or even close to it. In fact EIGHT other clubs have scored as few or less, and FIVE of them are above us in the table - Wrexham, at 16th, have only scored 24, Sutton, our fellow ingénue, doing so much better than us at 14th, have scored exactly the same as us, and Boring Wood are at 12th on one goal less.
It's the next column in the table that is our real problem - we have let in 51 goals - an average of nearly TWO goals a game - the second worst in the league.
Much as I would like to see someone regularly banging in goals, that isn't what's going to save us. We are capable of scoring one or two goals in most games - what we have to do, if we're going to survive, is somehow plug the bloody big hole at the back.
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