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Oct 30, 2022 8:33:22 GMT
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Post by Andy on Oct 30, 2022 8:33:22 GMT
On the plus side, we didn't lose, and the second half display looked much more like a team that cares. Maybe we can take some of that forward to Tuesday night and give them more of a game? I couldn't tell if the pen was 'dodgy' or not, but we had at least one better appeal ignored by the ref (who was shite), so I think justice was done. Kudos to Booty for scoring under all that pressure. I didn't think much of Yeovil, and, over the whole game, I thought we were the better side and possibly deserved more than a point (althogh to get that, we have to learn to SCORE!) Their goal was a complete gift - should go down as an OG! Apart from that cheeky one that was offside, they didn't seriously look like scoring any more, whereas we had several strikes that could/should have gone in on another day. Yes, it was still crap, and one better half isn't enough, and yes I'm losing faith in Hak for putting the new goalie straight in (that's not tactics, that's just desperate wishful thinking). He was OK, but better than Mersin or Haddler?? Having three goalies isn't the answer to our problems - even if they all plaid at once! I think the back four will be OK once Ellul is back - and maybe Fowler? But we need a decent CM and someone who can regularly score goals. If Hak can magic those up, instead of playing 'pick the goalie', we might survive. Today might just be the first glimmer of that survival. Still having my doubts though, especially about Hak. I'm beginning to think he rode our success last season, rather than creating it. Let's hope I'm wrong. I don't have to hope very much jdl. I'm totally sure you are wrong about Hak. Just disappointed you have joined the spoilt children the club has in its ranks in knocking Hak and even trying to re-write last season's glorious history.
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Oct 30, 2022 8:35:20 GMT
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Post by Dan on Oct 30, 2022 8:35:20 GMT
Well said Ian.Too many 'wet lettuces' around the club at the moment. I love Hak and will give him 100% support along with the team COMS !
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Oct 30, 2022 8:38:09 GMT
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Post by Stonethecrow on Oct 30, 2022 8:38:09 GMT
Sad to see jdl joining the malcontents. Personally I'm sticking with Hak. If he keeps the club up this season, that would be fantastic. But if the poor run continues, I for one will carry on supportimg him and the boys in black and amber.
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Post by jackster on Oct 30, 2022 8:39:10 GMT
Bollocks to the boo boys.
They can go stuff themselves.
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Post by deadly on Oct 30, 2022 8:42:33 GMT
Nice to see Hak join the supporters after the match.
He has had a lot to put up with from the 'moron tendency'.
Shame they keep turning up.
We dont need 'supporters' who boo players and rubbish the owners and management.
f**k off back to Gillingham
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Post by 61666 on Oct 30, 2022 8:43:39 GMT
Was in the Town End both halves, so interesting to see some of the key incidents: 1. Mensah made a hash of his challenge for their goal, but don't tell me that wasn't a freak header to go top corner from 20 yards. 2. Never a penalty, but well done Booty for scoring it and for showing urgency and leadership. Much as I like Hoyte he doesn't do leadership on the pitch 3. The pathetic dive by their forward in the second half. He was booked a couple of minutes later for a foul, so should have been sent off. 4. Without the penalty, we could still be playing now and not score. Played it about better in the second half, but couldn't find a way through the parked Yeovil bus. Why can't we defend like that?
Otherwise, there was a depressing familiarity about the game. Bright start and early chance goes begging. Then they score and we play like zombies for the rest of the first half. Come out with a bit of spark after half time, but no penetration. It's an old adage in football that you are never so vulnerable than just after you score. Not so for Maidstone, we just go into our shell and hide under a table like Liz Truss. If we can come out in the second half showing a bit of spirit, why can't we do that in the first half? And if sides as poor as Yeovil can play blanket defence, why can't we? So far this season, we have shown ourselves very vulnerable to fast, counter attacking sides like Southend, Dorking etc. We are also incapable of breaking down tall, donkey like opposition such as Halifax and Yeovil. Plus we are a class or two below the top sides like Notts County and Wrexham. It doesn't bode well for the rest of the season! And yet we managed to mug York for three points and were unlucky to lose to Chesterfield, so it can be done. Not sure what is going on inside the players' heads at the moment, but our poor form is arguably coming from that and needs sorting, pronto.
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Oct 30, 2022 10:20:18 GMT
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Post by butlerisalegend on Oct 30, 2022 10:20:18 GMT
Sad to see jdl joining the malcontents. Personally I'm sticking with Hak. If he keeps the club up this season, that would be fantastic. But if the poor run continues, I for one will carry on supportimg him and the boys in black and amber. Where did he say he wasn’t going to support them? You can make a comment on wether you think Hak is good enough or not without joining the boo boys!!!
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Post by julesdad on Oct 30, 2022 10:55:57 GMT
Better 2nd half and effort shown was refreshing. Find it very sad that " supporters" accuse players of not trying; anyone who has played the game at any level will assure you that not trying is not an option! Footballers want/need to play every week so you always try.
Some supporters need to grasp the facts that some teams and players are better than us, the issue is that currently Stones are currently To Slow, and to Small for this level. Every team we face is bigger, more physical and faster in thought and action than our brave lads.
I hope the team can turn it round and frustrated or not we must give them Maximum Support
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Post by Nick on Oct 30, 2022 11:32:53 GMT
Sad to see jdl joining the malcontents. Personally I'm sticking with Hak. If he keeps the club up this season, that would be fantastic. But if the poor run continues, I for one will carry on supportimg him and the boys in black and amber. Where did he say he wasn’t going to support them? You can make a comment on wether you think Hak is good enough or not without joining the boo boys!!! Read the post again. Apparently Hak just 'rode the team's success' last season rather than help creating it. Talk about re-writing history. Doesn't like his selections/recruitment either. "Doubts about Hak". Not exactly supportive of Hak. Fair enough thats his point of view and jdl is def not one of the boo boys that we can do without. Just another supporter expressing reservations. I don't think Hak has done nearly well enough this season, so far, but I'm backing him to get the club out of trouble.
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Post by daveu on Oct 30, 2022 11:50:08 GMT
Was in the Town End both halves, so interesting to see some of the key incidents: 1. Mensah made a hash of his challenge for their goal, but don't tell me that wasn't a freak header to go top corner from 20 yards. 2. Never a penalty, but well done Booty for scoring it and for showing urgency and leadership. Much as I like Hoyte he doesn't do leadership on the pitch 3. The pathetic dive by their forward in the second half. He was booked a couple of minutes later for a foul, so should have been sent off. 4. Without the penalty, we could still be playing now and not score. Played it about better in the second half, but couldn't find a way through the parked Yeovil bus. Why can't we defend like that? Otherwise, there was a depressing familiarity about the game. Bright start and early chance goes begging. Then they score and we play like zombies for the rest of the first half. Come out with a bit of spark after half time, but no penetration. It's an old adage in football that you are never so vulnerable than just after you score. Not so for Maidstone, we just go into our shell and hide under a table like Liz Truss. If we can come out in the second half showing a bit of spirit, why can't we do that in the first half? And if sides as poor as Yeovil can play blanket defence, why can't we? So far this season, we have shown ourselves very vulnerable to fast, counter attacking sides like Southend, Dorking etc. We are also incapable of breaking down tall, donkey like opposition such as Halifax and Yeovil. Plus we are a class or two below the top sides like Notts County and Wrexham. It doesn't bode well for the rest of the season! And yet we managed to mug York for three points and were unlucky to lose to Chesterfield, so it can be done. Not sure what is going on inside the players' heads at the moment, but our poor form is arguably coming from that and needs sorting, pronto. Agree about the penalty, but having seen the highlights I'm now wondering if we should have had one in the first half. Christie's cross came in and there was no one in the box, but Jack appears to be dragged back by the defender as he tries to get on the end of it at the near post. Swings and roundabouts, and maybe justice was done in the end. Also I'm not sure I agree about not looking like scoring, we hit the woodwork twice and Smith pulled of a worldie from Barham's header. Fine margins are just going against us at the moment and maybe the penalty was the bit of luck we needed to start turning things around. Not saying we have turned the corner, but there were encouraging signs in the second half, and the most pleasing thing was that the self belief seemed to be returning.
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Post by jdl on Oct 30, 2022 11:55:43 GMT
I write an honest, balanced (even optimistic!) post, expressing my hope that we've turned the corner, but also my worry that Hak may not be the answer I thought he was - but hope that I'm wrong.
And I get called a "boo-boy" and told that I'm not a true fan and I should "piss off".
Brilliant.
Perhaps some of these ultra-fans, who (rightly) criticise the 'Hak out' idiots, should take a look at themselves? From my perspective, they are behaving in exactly the same knee-jerk way.
This is a discussion board, and we are all dedicated supporters - some of us for a bloody long time. If we can't express genuine concerns about the club on here without being flamed by the 'no criticism' crowd, then what's the f**king point?
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Post by jackster on Oct 30, 2022 12:27:43 GMT
When I said "bollocks to the boo boys", I meant it, with shedloads. Can't stand 'em. No way did I suggest you were one of them. Of course it is right for supporters to express their moans, groans and doubts on social media. But the boos and chanting from idiots aimed at Hak and the owners on match day is disgusting imo and completely out of order.
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Oct 30, 2022 13:24:17 GMT
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Post by sword65 on Oct 30, 2022 13:24:17 GMT
When I said "bollocks to the boo boys", I meant it, with shedloads. Can't stand 'em. No way did I suggest you were one of them. Of course it is right for supporters to express their moans, groans and doubts on social media. But the boos and chanting from idiots aimed at Hak and the owners on match day is disgusting imo and completely out of order. Sadly as each winless game goes by the boos and chants will get longer and louder☹
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Post by ade on Oct 30, 2022 13:36:52 GMT
When I said "bollocks to the boo boys", I meant it, with shedloads. Can't stand 'em. No way did I suggest you were one of them. Of course it is right for supporters to express their moans, groans and doubts on social media. But the boos and chanting from idiots aimed at Hak and the owners on match day is disgusting imo and completely out of order. Call out performances online after a game if they must but never boo the team or players while they are actually wearing the shirt on the pitch. You are not supporter's you are not welcome, so f**k off.
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Post by andrewthehat on Oct 31, 2022 12:14:21 GMT
jackster - I'm not sure it IS right for us to moan and groan on social media. Frankly, yelling nasty things at the ground is much easier to ignore as "heat of the moment" idiocy, than reading carefully-written analyses of why Hak should leave, why half our players are substandard or why we're not trying hard enough. The players read this stuff - and whether they SHOULD or not, they take notice of it. So do Hak and Terry - and Oliver, and Terry Casey, I should think. The problem with social media is that it is FAR too powerful a platform. If somebody offered me a trade - all the post-match booing and anti-Hak, anti-player chanting continues but ALL social media posts being thoughtful, useful, compassionate, motivational and positive, I'd take it like a shot. Of course, it would be even better for the world if ALL social media were simply turned off - but that horse bolted (and sprayed piss and shit on everyone) long ago.
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