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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 14:50:49 GMT
Not much choice other than living with it, as a possible cause of death alongside cancer, dementia, heart disease (my mum managed to get a hat-trick on those...), suicide, road accidents, not forgetting flu. Only potential changes for me on Jul 19 will be less mask-wearing (though I barely notice it any more) and looking forward to watching football, whether it be at Abingdon U, Oxford C or The Theatre of Nightmares. Not planning on going clubbing / to the theatre or travelling abroad. I questioned on FB the need for people to go abroad on holiday - meaning for safety reasons but thinking it went without saying. An old colleague (living in central Paris) posted that "new national anthem" and an infection graph from the Guardian - where else - and said "you stay in Pyongyang on Thames". What IS it with Guardian readers that they have to be morally superior, intolerant of other people's opinions and desperate for their own country to fail - with seemingly no self-awareness of just how tedious they are? It could be worse, Huw, Express and Mail readers are morally inferior, intolerant of other people and act to make sure their own country fails with no self-awareness that they are the problem.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 14:51:58 GMT
I can see both sides of this (although, as an OAP with school-aged children I do tend to see the one side a little more strongly!). But I am not convinced of the 'just have to live with Covid' argument - I fear it is being driven far more by the 'need' to get businesses back on their feet than concern for people's health. It's more of a political sound-bite slogan than a sensible policy for dealing with a pandemic (which is what this still is). The same with "get our freedom back" - I haven't lost any 'freedom', I'm just trying not to die! But it's the sort of thing that people repeat until it becomes an accepted 'truth', so we might be stuck with it. As for deaths - we seem to have very confused attitude where people dying from something is concerned. A tain crash kills far fewer than the number of people who die on the roads every day and half the railway gets shut down. Today 'only' three people are reported to have died from Covid, but in almost any other situation something that had killed three people would be a major news story and people would be demanding action. As for "Covid can never be beaten, we'll have to learn to live with it some day, so why not now?" - this is just logical bollocks. Of course it can't ever be beaten - it's a virus! And of course we'll learn to live with it in time (when it's no longer a threat!). But why now, when it's spreading like wildfire again and half the population is still not fully vaccinated? It won't take forever to reach 'herd immunity' vaccination levels - at the current rate this should happen around September/October. Would it be so terrible just to keep the current level of restrictions (which aren't exactly draconian) for another three or four months? If we don't, then everyone who dies, or 'just' gets seriously ill with Covid, or ends up with Long Covid, between now and then, will have been sacrificed on the alter of 'saving' the hospitality sector. The same sector that currently is moaning because, even with limited opening, it can't recruit enough staff because they've all gone back home and/or can't get back into the country again... Yes,I want my Saturday night live music back from the end of July,waited too f**king long already. I could always come over and serenade you... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 14:57:36 GMT
I never voted for him, I'd rather have you as prime minister,at least you would cure my insomnia😁 I never, of course, claimed you did. He has profited from blaming others for problems brought by our own politicians.  I'm confused...you seem to live to reply to me yet claim I send you to sleep. Help me with this apparent contradiction in your ramblings.  It's called humour,even if it's not strikingly funny😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 15:00:00 GMT
Yes,I want my Saturday night live music back from the end of July,waited too f**king long already. I could always come over and serenade you... You could but I think Belmarsh Bob may just strangle you provided they dont bang him up again next Thursday. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 15:10:16 GMT
I could always come over and serenade you... You could but I think Belmarsh Bob may just strangle you provided they dont bang him up again next Thursday. I'll wait until Saturday 10th then |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2021 23:04:57 GMT
Maidstone now a 'hot spot' (darker shade of red/pink on the UK infection map) - 117 cases per 100k people. (It was 23 about three weeks ago.)
Also the highest rate of infections in the whole SE corner (adjacent areas have much lower rates: 54, 26, 48, 67 and 80).
But why? In past waves, we've mostly been behind other SE areas, with places like Medway and Thanet way ahead of us. What's changed this time round?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 0:40:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 6:57:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 14:34:11 GMT
... and of course the new Nissan deal doesn't count because the government did what governments everywhere do, and "financed" it. How very dare they? I was reading JDL's post (no, honestly!!!) and thought I'd read up on "vaccines for kids?" as it's one of his pet arguments. This is a good article: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57203521 Interested to see JDL write (FFS, did I bang my head last night when England scored???) about herd immunity - yes that must be getting more of a reality. At my son's school, total cases have SKYROCKETED BY 50% (tabloid headline for you there) - yes there's been a 3rd one since March! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 23:30:30 GMT
On a personal note - one of my wife's friends, who has had both jabs, has just got Covid. These breakthrough cases aren't as rare as people in the media try and make out and yes people are even still dying after being double jabbed (thankfully the number of deaths at the moment are low), so why the vaccines are good they won't completely protect you. I've seen many people on social media, mainly Americans, who seem to think the vaccine makes them completely immune from the virus and refuse to believe there are breakthrough cases......so Christ knows what they've been hearing on the TV and in the media to think this. Very interesting - frightening to see how many over 50s still getting it after 2 jabs. Although I would guess most of those are well 'over 50' - 70s/80s. The natural immune level drops alarmingly over 60/70, so the efficacy of the jabs drops a lot too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2021 23:37:14 GMT
... and of course the new Nissan deal doesn't count because the government did what governments everywhere do, and "financed" it. How very dare they? I was reading JDL's post (no, honestly!!!) and thought I'd read up on "vaccines for kids?" as it's one of his pet arguments. This is a good article: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57203521 Interested to see JDL write (FFS, did I bang my head last night when England scored???) about herd immunity - yes that must be getting more of a reality. At my son's school, total cases have SKYROCKETED BY 50% (tabloid headline for you there) - yes there's been a 3rd one since March! Why is this so personal to you? Quite frankly it's weird. The virus is a force of nature, it follows a purely mathematical course. There is no politics or personality involved. It is doing exactly what immunoligists (and, for that matter, me) said it would from the beginning - and it will contine to do this. Nothing to do with how any of us vote or what we think of Johnson, or whether you like us or not - just facts: maths and nature. The fact that Johnson has cocked up the government's response all the way along, is also fact. Had a Labour, Liberal (God help us), or even Green PM behaved the same way, I would be just as critical of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 9:05:04 GMT
... and of course the new Nissan deal doesn't count because the government did what governments everywhere do, and "financed" it. How very dare they? I was reading JDL's post (no, honestly!!!) and thought I'd read up on "vaccines for kids?" as it's one of his pet arguments. This is a good article: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57203521 Interested to see JDL write (FFS, did I bang my head last night when England scored???) about herd immunity - yes that must be getting more of a reality. At my son's school, total cases have SKYROCKETED BY 50% (tabloid headline for you there) - yes there's been a 3rd one since March! Why is this so personal to you? Quite frankly it's weird. The virus is a force of nature, it follows a purely mathematical course. There is no politics or personality involved. It is doing exactly what immunoligists (and, for that matter, me) said it would from the beginning - and it will contine to do this. Nothing to do with how any of us vote or what we think of Johnson, or whether you like us or not - just facts: maths and nature. The fact that Johnson has cocked up the government's response all the way along, is also fact. Had a Labour, Liberal (God help us), or even Green PM behaved the same way, I would be just as critical of them. Not at all critical of a labour opposition that has totally failed to hold the government to account though, or even come up with a single policy of their own. If they're best alternative to what we have now then we're totally fucked all ways round. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 9:10:53 GMT
... and of course the new Nissan deal doesn't count because the government did what governments everywhere do, and "financed" it. How very dare they? I was reading JDL's post (no, honestly!!!) and thought I'd read up on "vaccines for kids?" as it's one of his pet arguments. This is a good article: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57203521 Interested to see JDL write (FFS, did I bang my head last night when England scored???) about herd immunity - yes that must be getting more of a reality. At my son's school, total cases have SKYROCKETED BY 50% (tabloid headline for you there) - yes there's been a 3rd one since March! The thing I posted was from Parliament so I'm not sure what your complaint is, caller. The Nissan deal is good news. The reality is that we will need a few more of these factories to 'keep pace'. I think one is planned for Coventry |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 9:15:58 GMT
Why is this so personal to you? Quite frankly it's weird. The virus is a force of nature, it follows a purely mathematical course. There is no politics or personality involved. It is doing exactly what immunoligists (and, for that matter, me) said it would from the beginning - and it will contine to do this. Nothing to do with how any of us vote or what we think of Johnson, or whether you like us or not - just facts: maths and nature. The fact that Johnson has cocked up the government's response all the way along, is also fact. Had a Labour, Liberal (God help us), or even Green PM behaved the same way, I would be just as critical of them. Not at all critical of a labour opposition that has totally failed to hold the government to account though, or even come up with a single policy of their own. If they're best alternative to what we have now then we're totally fucked all ways round. I watch Keir Starmer give facts each week that destroy Johnson's lies. Johnson answers every question by shouting 'vaccine rollout'. This week he was claiming that we only have the rollout we do because of brexit and escaping the EMA. A breathtaking lie. The problem now is quite clearly the proportion of people that either can't see the lies, don't want to see the lies or are happy with the lies. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2021 11:44:15 GMT
Not at all critical of a labour opposition that has totally failed to hold the government to account though, or even come up with a single policy of their own. If they're best alternative to what we have now then we're totally fucked all ways round. I watch Keir Starmer give facts each week that destroy Johnson's lies. Johnson answers every question by shouting 'vaccine rollout'. This week he was claiming that we only have the rollout we do because of brexit and escaping the EMA. A breathtaking lie. The problem now is quite clearly the proportion of people that either can't see the lies, don't want to see the lies or are happy with the lies. No, people aren't happy with the lies, but they also realise that simply shouting liar liar repeatedly is far from being effective opposition. The fact remains that no one knows what labour stands for any more. A worthwhile opposition would be absolutely steamrollering the government in bye elections at the moment, not hanging on by a paltry 300 odd votes. |
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