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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 9:50:11 GMT
How could the Falklands War have been avoided? Oh yes, we could have got the SAS to assassinate the Argentinian president; Carlos Menem wasn't it, or was he their centre forward? Any road up, shouldn't the wishes of the Falkland Islanders have been paramount? On the plus side, my brother in law (a Royal Engineers musician and therefore a medic) managed to learn bridge on his cruise down to Ascension Island. The problem was that the Falklands War was done on a wave of patriotism, evoking an idea of an England past that never really existed. It awoke an idea of English exceptionalism that leads us down some silly paths. That same exceptionalism has been awoken now and it is going to start clashing with reality. The fallout will not be good. As for the wishes of the few hundred Falkland Islanders... Couldn't we just ignore them like we do Scotland and Northern Ireland now? Good way to learn bridge though. It took 5 weeks to sail there didn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 2:03:50 GMT
You can shove your Boris Johnson up your arse
You can shove your sad remainers up your arse
You can take your Lisbon treaty
Wrap it up quite neatly
And shove the f**king thing right up your arse
Now the Northern Ireland border is a farce
So you can shove the f**king right up your arse
You can take your Miley Cyrus
You can take your Covid virus
And shove the f**king lot right up your arse.
Now a Falklands sheep just eats and f**king baas
So you can shove your Falkland sheep right up your arse
The British troops did lead the slaughter
Blew the Belgrano out the water
And they can shove their Maradona up their arse
That was a party political broadcast on behalf the Association of Really Stupid Eejits Hoo Only Love European Solidarity better known as the ARSEHOLES Party
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 8:29:38 GMT
How could the Falklands War have been avoided? Oh yes, we could have got the SAS to assassinate the Argentinian president; Carlos Menem wasn't it, or was he their centre forward? Any road up, shouldn't the wishes of the Falkland Islanders have been paramount? On the plus side, my brother in law (a Royal Engineers musician and therefore a medic) managed to learn bridge on his cruise down to Ascension Island. Lord Carrington, one of the few in Thatcher's government I had any respect for, admitted afterwards that failures in diplomacy (and possibly a degree of arrogance too) caused the situation to get out of hand and Argentina to think it could act with impunity. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 9:09:42 GMT
Yes, I can believe that!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 9:36:27 GMT
Interesting and salutory. As an island nation, we ought to have done better and at the risk of introducing the Brexit analogy, the idea of pulling up the drawbridge is arguably one that should have been more attractive. Despite all the knowledge of what works (and what doesn't), there still seems to be a global reluctance to come up with a blueprint of how to cope better in future. Our own government persists in saying 'not now' for a national inquiry into Covid - but if not now, then when is a good time? These things take months, years even, yet if we are to learn, then there surely has to be a more concerted approach, based on what has worked well and avoiding past mistakes. Currently, we seem to be betting everything on the vaccines, together with the blunt instrument that is lockdown. Yet, for example, thousands of truckers come in and out of the country daily, with similar numbers of business travellers by air. Is it all really necessary? For example, what is wrong with truckers coming no further than the ports, on both sides of the Channel, with 'home' drivers and tractor units taking over from there? No doubt there are practical reasons, but the same goes for Irish freight that drives through Britain to France, rather than go direct by sea - something now starting to happen, with new services from Rosslare. While there are signs of creative thinking taking place in isolation, it seems the global economy is reluctant to change the status quo, but there is nothing to stop the UK doing its own thing and weren't we told that was one of the key benefits of Brexit? Feel sure there must be many small, easily applied changes that could keep us safer, but get a feeling that the government is reluctant to go down this route for fear of public outcry when an inquiry shows just how badly they fucked up. The vaccine roll out saves us all and in a year's time it will all be forgotten. Yeh, right... An island nation? You know those big white metal birds that people on Sheppey still point at? And you know that massive hole next to Folkestone (no, not Dover...)? you only have to look at how many languages are spoken in London (it's hundreds) to know how many people were and still are travelling in and out of the UK from all over the world. The blue wobbly thing between the land and the sky doesn't help much. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 9:44:32 GMT
I heard an ICU doctor being interviewed the other day, and he said that the age of most people on ventilators now is in the 50s. This was quite a shock, but, if you think about it, with over-60s being mostly vaccinated and not tending to be that active socially (and mostly retired), it makes sense. People in their 50s are now probably the most vulnerable group of the not yet vaccinated. As for the lockdown - the message coming clearly from HMG is that it's going to be relaxed 'on time' come what may. This isn't the official line, of course, but it's clear that de Pfeffe is under too much pressure from his back-benchers and business mates to "follow the science", as he promised. And what of that science? Well, death rates are thankfully right down, but the infection rate seems to have 'plateaued' (government-speak for ‘ahem, actually going up a bit, don’t you know”). And the number in hospital, although much lower, is still pretty much where it was when the first lock-down was called - rather hastily, because it was thought that the NHS wouldn't be able to cope if it got any worse. It's an undisputed fact that the infection rate will go up when the lockdown is eased, and may even do so rapidly enough to cause a 'third wave’, if not enough under-60s have been vaccinated (and what will a totally shagged-out NHS think of that?). So, if de Pfeffe was "listening to the science", he would be considering delaying the relaxation of the lockdown for a few weeks until the vaccination situation is clearer, and enough under-60s have been vaccinated to prevent a ‘third wave’. Will he have the Churchilian guts to do that? Watch this space... I can't believe I actually wasted the time it took to read that garbage. The clear message from the government is that easing of restrictions will take as long as it needs, not that the dates are set in stone. The infection rate has plateaued but is not creeping up. Some days it's above the weekly average but week on week it's still going down all be it slowly. I've no time for Boris, but Christ you lefties don't half twist information to fit your own agenda. Cases still around 5,000 a day, even though over 3 million secondary school children are taking 2 or 3 tests a week? So cases per head are plummeting. But don't let that get in the way of another illogical theory, JDL. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274Cases have declined The average number of new daily cases in the UK has fallen substantially in recent weeks, although the decline does appear to have slowed in recent days. A further 6,397 confirmed cases across the UK were announced by the government on Thursday. This compares with 6,303 new cases reported a week ago. The number of tests every day has risen by roughly 700,000 since the start of March as schools have been using rapid tests to check pupils for coronavirus, even when they do not have symptoms. This has led to, on average, about 1,500 new cases being found each day, but it is too soon to say whether the slowing rate of decline is down to more testing or more virus. [pasting the whole section, not just the bits which back my argument...] Right, I'm off to send some selected data to some universities - it's what I do for a living... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 7:31:05 GMT
Interesting and salutory. As an island nation, we ought to have done better and at the risk of introducing the Brexit analogy, the idea of pulling up the drawbridge is arguably one that should have been more attractive. Despite all the knowledge of what works (and what doesn't), there still seems to be a global reluctance to come up with a blueprint of how to cope better in future. Our own government persists in saying 'not now' for a national inquiry into Covid - but if not now, then when is a good time? These things take months, years even, yet if we are to learn, then there surely has to be a more concerted approach, based on what has worked well and avoiding past mistakes. Currently, we seem to be betting everything on the vaccines, together with the blunt instrument that is lockdown. Yet, for example, thousands of truckers come in and out of the country daily, with similar numbers of business travellers by air. Is it all really necessary? For example, what is wrong with truckers coming no further than the ports, on both sides of the Channel, with 'home' drivers and tractor units taking over from there? No doubt there are practical reasons, but the same goes for Irish freight that drives through Britain to France, rather than go direct by sea - something now starting to happen, with new services from Rosslare. While there are signs of creative thinking taking place in isolation, it seems the global economy is reluctant to change the status quo, but there is nothing to stop the UK doing its own thing and weren't we told that was one of the key benefits of Brexit? Feel sure there must be many small, easily applied changes that could keep us safer, but get a feeling that the government is reluctant to go down this route for fear of public outcry when an inquiry shows just how badly they fucked up. The vaccine roll out saves us all and in a year's time it will all be forgotten. Yeh, right... An island nation? You know those big white metal birds that people on Sheppey still point at? And you know that massive hole next to Folkestone (no, not Dover...)? you only have to look at how many languages are spoken in London (it's hundreds) to know how many people were and still are travelling in and out of the UK from all over the world. The blue wobbly thing between the land and the sky doesn't help much. And yet apart from a tunnel to the PRC, Taiwan dealt with it all. I was shocked to hear that even as far back as last February (my last aborted planned trip back to blighty) when the world was already aware of the situation (after the CCP had covered it up since Oct 2019 and locked up anyone trying to mention it), that the UK was not carying out any border checks at airports and seaports, not even temperature checks!. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 8:43:12 GMT
The UK government had every opportunity to pull up the drawbridge, but chose not to. Indeed it was head in the sand, followed by headless chicken for much of 2020.
Thankfully, they appear to be much more cautious now and we can only hope they have learned from those catastrophic errors. A major concern must now be France, who seem to have lost the plot completely. Currently, among a long list of faux pas, there is the accusing us of hoarding vaccines (when they don't use the ones they have), strange pronouncements from Macron about not being forceful enough and 60% of the population apparently now anti vaccine - the latter nothing to do with scare stories about the Oxford jab, of course. Well up the head waters of La Merde, methinks and when so much of our fresh fruit and veg come from or through France, a problem in the making.
So, Brexit was a good thing then...? Alternatively, only goes to show how nationalism and xenophobia quickly prosper when you don't work together.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 22:43:29 GMT
Well, the madness goes on. Johnson is encouraging people to go back to work, despite the infection rate still being high and workplaces being known key transmission vectors - and, of course, very few of those returning workers will have been vaccinated. I sometimes wonder if anyone 'in charge' actually knows how viruses work.
Johnson promised to "follow the science" this time around, but the science clearly says - with the under 50s not vaccinated, and the uncertainty over vaccine supplies and the effect of new variants - there's still too much liklihood of a new wave of infections if the lockdown is relaxed too early.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2021 22:48:22 GMT
Oh, and some personal 'data - within our immediate circle of friends and family, I now know five people who have had the virus, two are dead, and one of the survivors reports that it was the worst illness he's ever had (he is an otherwise fit and healthy 40-something), with frightening levels of difficulty in breathing and headaches that lasted days and were so painful he couldn't sleep.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2021 22:48:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 4:26:32 GMT
Graham Martin ex player/captain/manager is moving to Spain on a permanent basis, I wish him luck with the move. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 15:06:17 GMT
This group is slacking. I'd've thought that between sword, sennockian, hkstone and JDL, ONE of you would have come up with a conspiracy theory about the Evergiven deliberately being run aground in the Suez Canal to drive up oil prices. Or at the very least blame it on Boris Johnson and Boreham Wood.
Not heard from hkstone much recently - I think he's looking for his escaped pet pangolin...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 15:16:09 GMT
No point as all the above are clearly true and not worth debating. Boris will undoubtedly have shares in the tugs that freed the ship, as advised by Cameron.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 15:19:23 GMT
This group is slacking. I'd've thought that between sword, sennockian, hkstone and JDL, ONE of you would have come up with a conspiracy theory about the Evergiven deliberately being run aground in the Suez Canal to drive up oil prices. Or at the very least blame it on Boris Johnson and Boreham Wood. Not heard from hkstone much recently - I think he's looking for his escaped pet pangolin... I'm bored with all politics, there are more important things in life and life too short to worry about things that I can do nothing about, I'll leave all the boring stuff to nws he thrives on it. |
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