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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 5:01:34 GMT
Has anybody had their phone call yet from one of the management team ? My mate chatted with Oliver today for around 20 minutes. He thinks we are very likely to go part time next season, so if true that will please a few on the forum. When I say 'if true', I've got no doubt that my mate thinks he was told that, but he does have history for getting the wrong end of the stick on occasions. So just looking for confirmation, Oliver must have rang a few others unless he was totally put off by his first call. I can't really see there being a 20/21 season. It looks to be logistically impossible as a result of a variety of external events, both political and fiscal, that will likely result in a negative cascade effect. I will not go into them here as it is really a non-Stones topic.
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Post by Nick on Mar 26, 2020 6:05:37 GMT
I guess you are talking about the risk of a long term bear market, high unemployment, hyper inflation, run down in World trade, recession, social unrest and a collapse of the service sector and real estate. Happy days indeed and yes it could all happen, despite unprecedented spending, fiscal measures and support for employers and individuals by numerous national governments. Predictors of gloom and doom seem to flourish in this forum, albeit the focus is normally about Stones fortunes and and the perceived need to urgently bring back Jay to save the club. But we must all hope that your amageddon type economic fears do not materialise and the country returns to some sort of normality by the end of the summer. Whether the club returns to a part time playing format or not seems pretty trivial when measured against other challenges so many people are facing.
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Post by nws on Mar 26, 2020 7:20:09 GMT
For me, the truly depressing thing will be a return to where we were heading prior to covid-19. If this whole episode isnt teaching people that time with loved ones is more important than 60 hours working to get pointless plastic products then the human race doesnt deserve to flourish
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 10:00:43 GMT
I guess you are talking about the risk of a long term bear market, high unemployment, hyper inflation, run down in World trade, recession, social unrest and a collapse of the service sector and real estate. Happy days indeed and yes it could all happen, despite unprecedented spending, fiscal measures and support for employers and individuals by numerous national governments. Predictors of gloom and doom seem to flourish in this forum, albeit the focus is normally about Stones fortunes and and the perceived need to urgently bring back Jay to save the club. But we must all hope that your amageddon type economic fears do not materialise and the country returns to some sort of normality by the end of the summer. Whether the club returns to a part time playing format or not seems pretty trivial when measured against other challenges so many people are facing. I fully agree with your sentiments, however, I have amended my last post to what I intended to say, that a 20/21 season would probably not be played, and I certainly was not predicting an armageddon situation with a fear based doom and gloom attitude. I do, in fact, feel that a better world will be the end result of this situation, but in order for this planet to become a better world to live in, drastic changes on a global basis seem to be required. Why? Because Homo Sapiens find it very difficult to learn unless the species receives a big shock now and again. Quoting NWS 'If this whole episode isnt teaching people that time with loved ones is more important than 60 hours working to get pointless plastic products then the human race doesnt deserve to flourish'. But I think it will flourish in a more evolved form psychologically. If not, it is ultimately f----d. Personally I recommend more meditation to connect with spirit, it does wonders.
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Post by headstone on Mar 26, 2020 10:42:28 GMT
Agreed, and the choice of spirits is wide. Off to Morrison's in a minute....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 12:09:22 GMT
Chances of all football clubs from EFL to our level playing next season? Minimal. But clubs like Ashford T and Abingdon T (admittedly sill a basket case) have taken a season out in recent times and come back again. That would be my prediction and some 16-team leagues going on.
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Post by Nick on Mar 26, 2020 13:34:20 GMT
cgr and nws seem to have have a lot in common on how they think the species and society should evolve. Nice sentiments imo but it ain't going to happen. Shame, but life is sometimes great and sometimes a bitch. Just hope the predicted worst scenario outcome isn't the pit into which we descend. In the meantime the rumours grow that bit stronger that the owners have changed their minds and the club is back to part-time and evening training next season. Almost certainly means more local (ish) players and apart from the non signing of the one who must be un-named, it looks like bbj will get his way on most things. Just read Oliver's latest communication to supporters. It hardly confirms the above but reading between the lines -------------,,
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2020 13:46:07 GMT
cgr and nws seem to have have a lot in common on how they think the species and society should evolve. Nice sentiments imo but it ain't going to happen. Shame, but life is sometimes great and sometimes a bitch. Just hope the predicted worst scenario outcome isn't the pit into which we descend. In the meantime the rumours grow that bit stronger that the owners have changed their minds and the club is back to part-time and evening training next season. Almost certainly means more local (ish) players and apart from the non signing of the one who must be un-named, it looks like bbj will get his way on most things. I hope you were standing more than 2m from the rumour-monger, in the car park? We should get nws to trawl through all your posts to see how many of your predictions / overheard rumours have turned out to be right. Genuinely curious as to what the % might be.
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Post by Nick on Mar 26, 2020 13:49:08 GMT
My guess is that it is probably around 20% but accept this may be generous. On this occasion I would bet a few quid on an evens bet.
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Post by jdh80 on Mar 26, 2020 14:14:51 GMT
cgr and nws seem to have have a lot in common on how they think the species and society should evolve. Nice sentiments imo but it ain't going to happen. Shame, but life is sometimes great and sometimes a bitch. Just hope the predicted worst scenario outcome isn't the pit into which we descend. In the meantime the rumours grow that bit stronger that the owners have changed their minds and the club is back to part-time and evening training next season. Almost certainly means more local (ish) players and apart from the non signing of the one who must be un-named, it looks like bbj will get his way on most things. Just read Oliver's latest communication to supporters. It hardly confirms the above but reading between the lines -------------,, With the reduction in money coming into the club at present i would've thought that they would want as much evening time available to hire the pitch/facilities out to get that income stream reopened asap. I think once the owners find out what is happening football wise then they will have a better idea of what they choose to do going forward, some big decisions will need to be made some that we as fans will agree with others we dislike but we will need to just believe and get behind the team.
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Post by Nick on Mar 26, 2020 17:23:32 GMT
Agree with jdh BUT
Seems like I may have missed my call from Oliver when I was on my recreational this afternoon.
In any case another mate has since confirmed a very similar conversation.
Oliver emphasised the very serious loss of income the club is suffering from lack of hiring facilities as well as match days.
Again, mention was made about looking at player contracts and reverting to part time status.
Not actually said explicitly but it sounds/feels that there will be major changes to the set up of the 1st team squad next season.
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Post by 61666 on Mar 27, 2020 10:47:39 GMT
No call, but did have an email. Hopefully, when football does start again, there will be so much hunger for live sport that we will see record crowds, as per after WW2, when Charlton for example recorded 40 or 50 thousand in the old Valley. Their record is 75 000 in 1938. While that level won't be repeated, maybe we could yet see the Gallagher getting 3k plus, to put some money back in the coffers.
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Post by nws on Mar 27, 2020 12:03:28 GMT
cgr and nws seem to have have a lot in common on how they think the species and society should evolve. Nice sentiments imo but it ain't going to happen. Shame, but life is sometimes great and sometimes a bitch. Just hope the predicted worst scenario outcome isn't the pit into which we descend. In the meantime the rumours grow that bit stronger that the owners have changed their minds and the club is back to part-time and evening training next season. Almost certainly means more local (ish) players and apart from the non signing of the one who must be un-named, it looks like bbj will get his way on most things. Just read Oliver's latest communication to supporters. It hardly confirms the above but reading between the lines -------------,, If we all started to believe a bit more, voted for the things that might ACTUALLY change things, then life could change. It would mean bad news for the capitalist system and we would see GDP contracting. In all honesty, I couldn't care if GDP fell 20%, we made less rubbish we don't need (to enable someone to become fabulously rich and have resources beyond their needs), we allocated enough resources to be able to live, had more time at home with our families and enjoyed the world around us. Apparently that makes me a pie in the sky dreamer although nobody thinks it is a silly idea. It won't work, even though most people want it...and I am the ridiculous one?
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Post by Nick on Mar 27, 2020 12:26:08 GMT
Not ridiculous but about as likely as flying unicorns and fairies at the bottom of your garden. There are not enough people sufficiently enlightened, caring and unselfish to make it happen. I appaud your sentiments but that is all they are, sadly they don't add up to a bag of beans. Life will be back to normal soon enough and we can get back to demanding sackings, moaning about the team and management, abusing each other and the rest. So much to look forward to.
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Post by Fed up with PC views only on Mar 27, 2020 12:56:08 GMT
Not ridiculous but about as likely as flying unicorns and fairies at the bottom of your garden. There are not enough people sufficiently enlightened, caring and unselfish to make it happen. I appaud your sentiments but that is all they are, sadly they don't add up to a bag of beans. Life will be back to normal soon enough and we can get back to demanding sackings, moaning about the team and management, abusing each other and the rest. So much to look forward to. Getting back to football...………..(Oliver's Army) what a great thing for the club to do to call or email us all - definitely restoring a club spirit. I take no joy, Nick, in us going PT in these circumstances but will be just grateful for us to survive as a club and put a team out we can all get behind, and no, not the time to talk about moans for quite a long while into "normality", whenever that may come. For now though we must all pray for everyone at the club, DaveU's daughter and yes, now even Boris, to get through this virus. No idea if the Hak will be manager anymore as he is FT and we may not be able to afford him, but actually I hope that he stays on as you can have a different impetus when you have stuck together through a crisis and if the clubs sticks by him I think he could actually come back all guns blazing with a PT team. I may even have to change my forum name! How about nws2?
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