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Post by jdl on May 27, 2020 0:10:59 GMT
Only one thing matters now. When do the pubs reopen? That's another solution. Drink (or drug) yourself into oblivion. At least you are only hurting yourself...……...hopefully! At least you're not being a brainwashed media puppet and becoming a hater, quick to judge your fellows and rant at them, completely missing the bigger picture. We already have enough mad people on this forum, BBJ, we don't need another.
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Post by sword65 on May 27, 2020 6:04:56 GMT
Cant believe how short sighted this nasty little rant is. A vicious personal attack on one man even though he didn't actually (evidentially) cause any direct harm to anyone, whilst a whole world has been put into enforced denial of its civil liberties, economic meltdown, mass unemployment, with hundreds of thousands of deaths from coronavirus, and not a word against those who caused coronavirus or its original spread. Also not a word against those who have caused untold more hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of deaths from operations not carried out and diseases not addressed and enforced starvation due to this massive overreaction of the global lockdown in countries with increased suicides, domestic and child abuse, mental health disorders, poverty etc and not a word against those who imposed this incredible global imprisonment of the world population for a virus which even in the UK still has not killed even half of those who died in the UK in 2017 from flu and pneumonia in 2017 (According to the Office of National Statistics). Example of this madness? - Zimbabwe, due to severe lockdown, suffering genuine food shortages and actual starvation, needs the CHINESE ( ?? Really???) to fly delegations of SCIENTISTS (OMG!!!!) to "help" them through their Coronavirus epidemic which, apparently, is hitting their 19 million population. What was the Coronavirus count in Zimbabwe when starvation was rife due to the Draconian Lockdown and the Chinese Scientists were flying out to help them? 44 cases and 4 deaths. Out of 19 million. That's 0.0002% of the population infected. So why the panic, why the Chinese scientists, and why a lockdown in Zimbabwe causing them to starve? Is it to give them the virus? Is it to reduce the population of Africa (like AIDS?) Is it to set up the need for vaccines? I don't know the answers to those questions, but there is enough weird stuff going on - like this Zimbabwe example and many, many more to tell you that something is very very wrong in the world, folks. And its not Dominic Cummings driving with Covid 19 to want to be with his family to beat the disease, or Boris, or Raab, its way beyond these shores, and way above our PM. Point your rifles at higher targets. Petty hatred at individuals in our Government achieves nothing. In the global game around us they aren't even pawns on this chessboard. Anyway, petty hatred towards individuals isn't nice. Come on people, stop hating and turning on each other and look to the true sources of where are current GLOBAL (not just UK, or US, or Zimbabwe) circumstances are coming from and start questioning, challenging and fighting back - and not at those in our National Government level who have no power - even more so now they are trillions of pounds in debt to those who are on the chessboard who now have all the power to control them! Or call me a conspiracy theorist, turn your hatred on me for having a view different to what the media pours out on us all 24/7, (You may actually want to check who owns the media, as they may be on the chessboard too), and go back to your in-fighting at low level whilst the world above you dictates your future. We all have free will! I think. At least we do if we stop listening to the media newsfeeds, use our brains, and try to work things out for ourselves instead of accepting everything we read or hear. Just try it for a week, and see what you come up with. Go on, you know you want to! Some fantastic whataboutery and 'oh look a squirrel' stuff to try and distract from the indefensible. Here are some facts: 1) The unelected bureaucrat that is Cummings was part of a government that told everyone to stay at home. He then utterly ignored that on more than one occasion. 2) You state that Cummings did not cause any harm to anyone. Can you send me full details of his journeys, where he stopped who he may have come into contact with when he had this disease. No...then how can you state that he didn't (evidentially) affect anyone? You don't actually know. His actions were reckless and broke the law. What he has caused is everyone to say stuffed if I'm listening to them any more. 3) You state that we should not be aiming 'petty hatred' at individuals in our government. Yes, the lockdown that occurred too late, the failure to shut borders (especially after the taking back control guff of the last few years) or at least test and isolate people coming in, the whole joke around PPE, the catastrophic mismanagement of care homes and their staff, the continual lack of guidance resulting in the classic 'British common sense' comments last week (the point at which I decided listening to these idiots was pointless), the utter shambles around test, track and trace. Who should I be aiming my anger at? Your mythical people from another world or the people that actually caused it. My petty hatred is aimed at these people because they were so useless, so incompetent they cocked up just about everything possible and now we have 37,000+ people dead, some of which did not need to die but lost their lives through the shambolic, lying and blameshifting exercises of this useless government. Your comments are obviously aimed at China because you have been watching some nutcase with a camera and nothing much to do, on You Tube. I'm quite happy to consider all viewpoints but what facts have you provided (other than something about deaths in Zimbabwe) that convince us you are so free thinking and we are media-brainwashed. Please tell us your great theory on world domination, who is behind it and where you have got your info from. It should be fascinating (mostly in the fact that you not provide any of this). I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital,he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding so I wonder just how many people have actually died of this virus. It would seem that our wonderful NHS staff are being cheated and lied to by their own employers as well as the government.
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Post by Benny on May 27, 2020 7:11:22 GMT
That's another solution. Drink (or drug) yourself into oblivion. At least you are only hurting yourself...……...hopefully! At least you're not being a brainwashed media puppet and becoming a hater, quick to judge your fellows and rant at them, completely missing the bigger picture. We already have enough mad people on this forum, BBJ, we don't need another. You can never have enough mad people. It's the boring sane ones who ruin this world.
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Post by 61666 on May 27, 2020 7:42:06 GMT
Sadly, we cannot always do very much about what is going on in other countries, but public opinion can be a powerful voice for what goes on at home. There is now a growing clamour for action on Cummings within his own party, because they can see the damage he is causing both the party and the national fight against Covid 19. What annoys me, and I suspect the majority of people who disagree with his actions, is his total unwillingness to accept any sort of responsibility. That sort of blatant arrogance of a man who is making many of the rules simply sticks in the throat. Driving 30 miles to test his eyesight? Rank stupidity or taking the piss. Couldn't find any child care? Senior government advisor and couldn't get back up? Either he is having a laugh, again, or he is actually so unpopular around government that nobody goes near him. If your only ally is Michael Gove, then you've got problems.
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Post by 1018 on May 27, 2020 10:27:04 GMT
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Post by nws on May 28, 2020 6:12:08 GMT
Some fantastic whataboutery and 'oh look a squirrel' stuff to try and distract from the indefensible. Here are some facts: 1) The unelected bureaucrat that is Cummings was part of a government that told everyone to stay at home. He then utterly ignored that on more than one occasion. 2) You state that Cummings did not cause any harm to anyone. Can you send me full details of his journeys, where he stopped who he may have come into contact with when he had this disease. No...then how can you state that he didn't (evidentially) affect anyone? You don't actually know. His actions were reckless and broke the law. What he has caused is everyone to say stuffed if I'm listening to them any more. 3) You state that we should not be aiming 'petty hatred' at individuals in our government. Yes, the lockdown that occurred too late, the failure to shut borders (especially after the taking back control guff of the last few years) or at least test and isolate people coming in, the whole joke around PPE, the catastrophic mismanagement of care homes and their staff, the continual lack of guidance resulting in the classic 'British common sense' comments last week (the point at which I decided listening to these idiots was pointless), the utter shambles around test, track and trace. Who should I be aiming my anger at? Your mythical people from another world or the people that actually caused it. My petty hatred is aimed at these people because they were so useless, so incompetent they cocked up just about everything possible and now we have 37,000+ people dead, some of which did not need to die but lost their lives through the shambolic, lying and blameshifting exercises of this useless government. Your comments are obviously aimed at China because you have been watching some nutcase with a camera and nothing much to do, on You Tube. I'm quite happy to consider all viewpoints but what facts have you provided (other than something about deaths in Zimbabwe) that convince us you are so free thinking and we are media-brainwashed. Please tell us your great theory on world domination, who is behind it and where you have got your info from. It should be fascinating (mostly in the fact that you not provide any of this). I know somebody whose husband had a heart attack and was taken to hospital,he died in hospital. The death certificate said heart attack due to Covid 19. His wife pointed out that he did not have Covid 19 and would like that removed as cause of death. The doctor refused saying that it was hospital policy to put Covid 19 on all death certificates to obtain more government funding so I wonder just how many people have actually died of this virus. It would seem that our wonderful NHS staff are being cheated and lied to by their own employers as well as the government. I have seen this mentioned somewhere else although I can't remember where.
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Post by nws on May 28, 2020 6:38:13 GMT
Anyone wanting to see conspiracy theories in action. Remember the good ol' brexit debate. Remember when the likes of me were mocked because we fussed about food standards dropping. An amendmendment to the agricultural bill - that would have enshrined in law that food imports have to be up to our standards or above - was defeated. Michael Gove was quoted as saying the "the US would walk away from a trade deal if we had such a law".
Enjoy your breakfasts and start watching re-runs of The Good Life for handy tips
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Post by headstone on May 28, 2020 9:41:00 GMT
Ah, the great aroma of chlorinated chicken...
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Post by sword65 on May 28, 2020 10:48:51 GMT
Anyone wanting to see conspiracy theories in action. Remember the good ol' brexit debate. Remember when the likes of me were mocked because we fussed about food standards dropping. An amendmendment to the agricultural bill - that would have enshrined in law that food imports have to be up to our standards or above - was defeated. Michael Gove was quoted as saying the "the US would walk away from a trade deal if we had such a law". Enjoy your breakfasts and start watching re-runs of The Good Life for handy tips There is a simple solution,dont buy it.
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Post by nws on May 28, 2020 11:59:50 GMT
Ah, the great aroma of chlorinated chicken... I'm afraid chlorinated chicken is just one that the likes of you will now try and focus on to pretend you were't fooled. Maybe add in things like rat hair in your orange juice or maggots in your rice. Obviously an acceptance of lower standards can continue downwards and, with this lot, it most probably will. Have a look at what the NFU says about effects on farming and congratulate yourself on protecting British jobs. Alternatively read some more gobbledy gook by Nadine 'what is a customs union exactly' Dories...
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Post by nws on May 28, 2020 12:01:35 GMT
Anyone wanting to see conspiracy theories in action. Remember the good ol' brexit debate. Remember when the likes of me were mocked because we fussed about food standards dropping. An amendmendment to the agricultural bill - that would have enshrined in law that food imports have to be up to our standards or above - was defeated. Michael Gove was quoted as saying the "the US would walk away from a trade deal if we had such a law". Enjoy your breakfasts and start watching re-runs of The Good Life for handy tips There is a simple solution,dont buy it. That may be easier said than done. You are aware of all foreign standards on foodstuffs and what to avoid, yes? I did suggest the Good Life though...
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Post by jdl on May 31, 2020 0:16:46 GMT
WTF? I was worried enough that the government figures say over 2,000 new infections every day - and no real improvement over the last week or so. Plus I don't consider an R value of "between 0.7 and 0.9" too comforting either.
Then I discover today that the "true" figure for new infections is more like 8,000 a day, and this doen't include NHS and care homes!!
How on earth is the "true" figure over 400% larger than the government one?? Can R really be below one if there's that number of new infections every day - outside of hospitals and care homes?
WTF is going on? Kids going back to school Monday, shops opening a week after, lockdown well and truly Cumminged...
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Post by nws on May 31, 2020 7:18:50 GMT
WTF? I was worried enough that the government figures say over 2,000 new infections every day - and no real improvement over the last week or so. Plus I don't consider an R value of "between 0.7 and 0.9" too comforting either. Then I discover today that the "true" figure for new infections is more like 8,000 a day, and this doen't include NHS and care homes!! How on earth is the "true" figure over 400% larger than the government one?? Can R really be below one if there's that number of new infections every day - outside of hospitals and care homes? WTF is going on? Kids going back to school Monday, shops opening a week after, lockdown well and truly Cumminged... I'm not sending my children back. As if I'd trust anything this lot say. They are out of their depth. I'd like to say the worst PM and government in my lifetime but Alex is not a PM, this is not a government
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Post by jakeyboi on May 31, 2020 7:21:30 GMT
WTF? I was worried enough that the government figures say over 2,000 new infections every day - and no real improvement over the last week or so. Plus I don't consider an R value of "between 0.7 and 0.9" too comforting either. Then I discover today that the "true" figure for new infections is more like 8,000 a day, and this doen't include NHS and care homes!! How on earth is the "true" figure over 400% larger than the government one?? Can R really be below one if there's that number of new infections every day - outside of hospitals and care homes? WTF is going on? Kids going back to school Monday, shops opening a week after, lockdown well and truly Cumminged... Personally I think Boris an co allowed certain restrictions to be lifted as from Monday just to steer people away from all this Cummings business, an now it,s clear that the economy is far more important than peoples welfare.
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Post by 61666 on May 31, 2020 7:41:18 GMT
Plus the likelihood of taking his cue from Agent Orange over the Pond. While there is also out of the blue an easing of lockdown for many vulnerable people. Talk about mixed messages! There seems to be neither science nor logic to their approach - more like throw shit in the fan and see what sticks. All this while three people had to be rescued by air ambulances from Durdle Door in Dorset, after jumping off the cliffs. Media photos show hundreds crowded together like the kop end on match day to give the choppers room to land, then herded up the cliff path, sans social distancing afterwards. Herne Bay yesterday busy but well spread out, so a nice walk on the prom. Apart that is from the group of young, somewhat rotund young men, one of whom sneezed openly not far from me, making no effort to cover his mouth. All I can say is I was glad to be up wind at the time. What with the government and national fuckwitism, I don't fancy our chances of avoiding a second lockdown.
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