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Post by stewart on Dec 27, 2018 14:50:45 GMT
if 'arry wheelie walks the club owe him nothing, if he gets the gooner for useless tactiks the club will have to pay up on his contract
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 14:55:35 GMT
Jay had a proven record at keeping us up, he deserved at least the time and resources Harry has had. He didn't do well with his summer signings, I think we all agree with that, but he should have been given the chance to turn that round. Whatever he managed couldn't have been as bad as this. It was bad. That’s why he went. The problem is. It’s still bad It wasn't that bad - certainly not as bad as this. I think there was more going on behind the scenes than we know - something between Terry anf Jay that had been brewing over the summer. So, I suspect that the decisions wasn't made entirely on football/financial grounds. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 15:01:24 GMT
Listening to his post game interview he sounded like someone who's totally run out of ideas. He clearly has run out of ideas. The team reflected his touchline demeanor... Not interested and no ideas! We need a manager who gives good interviews. |
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Post by toonarmy on Dec 27, 2018 15:18:26 GMT
Not for me - we hardly won a game in Jay’s last 12 months and that wasn’t changing, we just should have appointed a proven conference manager not a rookie Jay had a proven record at keeping us up, he deserved at least the time and resources Harry has had. He didn't do well with his summer signings, I think we all agree with that, but he should have been given the chance to turn that round. Whatever he managed couldn't have been as bad as this. I’m not convinced that the summers signings were Jays |
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Post by overthehillstone on Dec 27, 2018 15:45:04 GMT
Then who's the heck were they do YOU think?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 15:48:47 GMT
Then who's the heck were they do YOU think? Terry's? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 16:06:19 GMT
Got any evidence for that?
I'd love it to be true, for many reasons.
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Post by overthehillstone on Dec 27, 2018 16:28:29 GMT
Then who's the heck were they do YOU think? Terry's? So you reckon Terry had say over Jay Oliver and Bill . one over rules 3? Your having a laugh. |
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Post by toonarmy on Dec 27, 2018 16:57:58 GMT
Then who's the heck were they do YOU think? I heard from a very reliable source Bill did all the signings and negotiations. Apologies this season |
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Post by Better things to do in life on Dec 27, 2018 17:03:42 GMT
And who is your reliable source that Bill has been the real Manager??? Sounds far fetched to me but there has been an air of mystery and behind the scenes darkness at MUFC for too long now. The fans deserve the truth to be out,however difficult, and start 2019 afresh with a new manager, new honesty and a club we all can love again.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 17:46:58 GMT
Truly shocking if true !
At the end of the day the weakness of those new summer signings and the performances that followed were the main reason for Jay's dismissal.
But surely too far fetched to believe Bill may have been the guiding hand behind their recruitment.
Selecting the players and sorting the detail of contracts are very different.
Given the freedom that Harry Wheeler has been given to spread his net and recruit who he wants it seems unlikely that this 'reliable source' could be credible.
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Post by madeinstone70 on Dec 27, 2018 17:53:16 GMT
Then who's the heck were they do YOU think? I heard from a very reliable source Bill did all the signings and negotiations. Apologies this season in that case, Bill Williams out!!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 17:55:06 GMT
Then who's the heck were they do YOU think? I heard from a very reliable source Bill did all the signings and negotiations. Apologies this season I think you're misunderstanding his role. My understanding was that Jay would say who he wanted and it was then down to Bill to try and make it happen. So technically he was indeed responsible for all signings and negotiations, but only after the players had been identified by Jay. |
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Post by toonarmy on Dec 27, 2018 18:18:50 GMT
I heard from a very reliable source Bill did all the signings and negotiations. Apologies this season I think you're misunderstanding his role. My understanding was that Jay would say who he wanted and it was then down to Bill to try and make it happen. So technically he was indeed responsible for all signings and negotiations, but only after the players had been identified by Jay. Which was a change to previous seasons, I wonder how many of the list provided by Jay were actually signed, not a lot I guess, anyway we digress we are now stuck with HW who seems to be able to identify and sign players as he likes, which has worked out really well so far |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 18:25:18 GMT
I think you're misunderstanding his role. My understanding was that Jay would say who he wanted and it was then down to Bill to try and make it happen. So technically he was indeed responsible for all signings and negotiations, but only after the players had been identified by Jay. Which was a change to previous seasons, I wonder how many of the list provided by Jay were actually signed, not a lot I guess Something was definitely wrong over the summer. It all started well enough, with Jay being very decisive, but then thre were weeks of nothing much happening, followed by the very dodgy last-minute signings. We didn't have enough players to field a decent team right up to the pre-seasons. I can't believe that Jay, left to himself, would have allowed that to happen. Perhaps there was a board meeting where they decided that Jay needed a little 'help' this time round? What could possibly go wrong? |
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