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Post by distantfan on Feb 8, 2020 8:49:46 GMT
Reading that article reminds me that dodgy pub toilets bother me far more than any other aspect of a pub. As you stand there contemplating your surroundings, away from chatting to others, the problem solving part of the brain kicks in and suddenly you've redesigned the gents or the cleaning roster, only to walk out and forget all of those 'brilliant'' ideas. I used to prefer loos that put up the sports page on the wall until I needed reading glasses. Sends a mixed message if you need to put on glasses to use the urinal.
I've only been in the Eagle a couple of times. We used to frequent the long departed Ancient Druids across the road in our teens as it had a very liberal view on what an 18 year old looked like.
I agree that the photos and memorabilia in pubs can be amazing, even the names 'Papermakers', 'Ropemakers' provide a direct link to our social history.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 9:03:31 GMT
Didn't there used to be an Eagle in upper stone street?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 9:06:52 GMT
Reading that article reminds me that dodgy pub toilets bother me far more than any other aspect of a pub. As you stand there contemplating your surroundings, away from chatting to others, the problem solving part of the brain kicks in and suddenly you've redesigned the gents or the cleaning roster, only to walk out and forget all of those 'brilliant'' ideas. I used to prefer loos that put up the sports page on the wall until I needed reading glasses. Sends a mixed message if you need to put on glasses to use the urinal. I've only been in the Eagle a couple of times. We used to frequent the long departed Ancient Druids across the road in our teens as it had a very liberal view on what an 18 year old looked like. I agree that the photos and memorabilia in pubs can be amazing, even the names 'Papermakers', 'Ropemakers' provide a direct link to our social history. The Eagle also had a very liberal view about what constituted an 18 year old. I spent many a Saturday evening in there as a 16 year old. On the point about toilets, even really nice pubs can have horrible toilets. It seems to be a blind spot in the leisure industry. And even if they're clean, they very rarely have hot water to the hand basins. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 9:51:34 GMT
Didn't there used to be an Eagle in upper stone street? Yes there was, had many a happy drink in there. |
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Post by pedant on Feb 8, 2020 10:56:13 GMT
Didn't there used to be an Eagle in upper stone street? Yes there was, had many a happy drink in there. Sorry sword but - major pedant alert - The Eagle was the first building (coming from town  ) on that side of the road in Loose Road and thus not Upper Stone Street*.
The 'Off Sales' door was in Old Tovil Road opposite The Fortune of War. No footpath outside that door, so down two or three steps straight in to the traffic which I think I can recall being two way.
*Didn't just rely on 'local knowledge' this time and checked on Google Maps.
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Post by distantfan on Feb 8, 2020 11:46:16 GMT
I am sure I will come to regret correct someone calling themselves "Pedant' but according to this site there have been three pubs in the Maidstone area calling themselves 'Eagle'. Their addresses are/were: 56 Brewer St, 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street. www.dover-kent.com/2014-villages/Maidstone.htmlFor what it's worth, I was referring to the one on Brewer St, which is the one in the article. Tstone was pointing out that there was also one in Upper Stone Street and sword was confirming it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 12:16:31 GMT
Yes there was, had many a happy drink in there. Sorry sword but - major pedant alert - The Eagle was the first building (coming from town ) on that side of the road in Loose Road and thus not Upper Stone Street*.
The 'Off Sales' door was in Old Tovil Road opposite The Fortune of War. No footpath outside that door, so down two or three steps straight in to the traffic which I think I can recall being two way.
*Didn't just rely on 'local knowledge' this time and checked on Google Maps.
The pub I knew of as the Eagle was just up from the paper makers on Upper Stone Street and was not near the Fortune of war. |
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Post by pedant on Feb 8, 2020 12:35:49 GMT
I am sure I will come to regret correct someone calling themselves "Pedant' but according to this site there have been three pubs in the Maidstone area calling themselves 'Eagle'. Their addresses are/were: 56 Brewer St, 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street. www.dover-kent.com/2014-villages/Maidstone.htmlFor what it's worth, I was referring to the one on Brewer St, which is the one in the article. Tstone was pointing out that there was also one in Upper Stone Street and sword was confirming it. Damn. I hate 'better research'
However ....
I suspect, but can't prove, that your source material is incorrect (or at least misleading).
Having lived approx. 200 yards from The Eagle in Loose Road for the first 27 years of my life and walked in to town, down Stone Street, umpteen times each month from the early 60's I couldn't place this 'other Eagle' at 138 Upper Stone Street, or indeed 138 Upper Stone Street at all.
Google Maps brings up 138 Upper Stone Street as the building that I knew as The Fortune of War. Your source shows the Fortune of War as 126 Upper Stone Street with supporting pictures showing that that building still exists at the north corner of the Upper Stone Street / Old Tovil Road junction.
If The Fortune of War address is correct then it is likely that The Eagles at 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street are in fact the same place and its either an error in the source material or at some time (probably to do with the Post Office mail deliveries in the Victorian era) the road names and postal addresses were finalised.
Either way I still don't think that sword ever drank in "The Eagle" whose correct address at the time was in Upper Stone Street.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 13:57:09 GMT
I am sure I will come to regret correct someone calling themselves "Pedant' but according to this site there have been three pubs in the Maidstone area calling themselves 'Eagle'. Their addresses are/were: 56 Brewer St, 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street. www.dover-kent.com/2014-villages/Maidstone.htmlFor what it's worth, I was referring to the one on Brewer St, which is the one in the article. Tstone was pointing out that there was also one in Upper Stone Street and sword was confirming it. Damn. I hate 'better research'
However ....
I suspect, but can't prove, that your source material is incorrect (or at least misleading).
Having lived approx. 200 yards from The Eagle in Loose Road for the first 27 years of my life and walked in to town, down Stone Street, umpteen times each month from the early 60's I couldn't place this 'other Eagle' at 138 Upper Stone Street, or indeed 138 Upper Stone Street at all.
Google Maps brings up 138 Upper Stone Street as the building that I knew as The Fortune of War. Your source shows the Fortune of War as 126 Upper Stone Street with supporting pictures showing that that building still exists at the north corner of the Upper Stone Street / Old Tovil Road junction.
If The Fortune of War address is correct then it is likely that The Eagles at 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street are in fact the same place and its either an error in the source material or at some time (probably to do with the Post Office mail deliveries in the Victorian era) the road names and postal addresses were finalised.
Either way I still don't think that sword ever drank in "The Eagle" whose correct address at the time was in Upper Stone Street.
I can assure you not only did I drink in there ,I played darts in there for the White Horse ,London Road. I also went to my friends farewell drink 3 weeks before he died of lung cancer in there. They had this funny way of marking your drinks in the wood by giving you specially shaped glass stones which you presented to the bar staff when you were ready for your drink. You could even take it home and present it 2 weeks later and you would get your beer. Now I know this pub as Upper Stone Street but whether it was on the border of Loose Road I do not know. |
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Post by pedant on Feb 8, 2020 17:36:58 GMT
I can assure you not only did I drink in there ,I played darts in there for the White Horse ,London Road. I also went to my friends farewell drink 3 weeks before he died of lung cancer in there. They had this funny way of marking your drinks in the wood by giving you specially shaped glass stones which you presented to the bar staff when you were ready for your drink. You could even take it home and present it 2 weeks later and you would get your beer. Now I know this pub as Upper Stone Street but whether it was on the border of Loose Road I do not know. I suspect we're actually in 'fierce agreement' here.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 18:58:10 GMT
I am sure I will come to regret correct someone calling themselves "Pedant' but according to this site there have been three pubs in the Maidstone area calling themselves 'Eagle'. Their addresses are/were: 56 Brewer St, 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street. www.dover-kent.com/2014-villages/Maidstone.htmlFor what it's worth, I was referring to the one on Brewer St, which is the one in the article. Tstone was pointing out that there was also one in Upper Stone Street and sword was confirming it. Well, in the spirit of this thread, I should point out the the 'Brewer St' Eagle actually has its entrance in Wheeler Street... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 10:11:33 GMT
No relevance to Maidstone united whatsoever. Think I'll have a hiss fit and complain...actually no...I'll just post elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 11:46:03 GMT
No relevance to Maidstone united whatsoever. Think I'll have a hiss fit and complain...actually no...I'll just post elsewhere. Guess what, the name of the topic might be a clue as to what it's about. And unlike your constant hijacking of other topics, it's always had the same title and has always been on topic, and hasn't been subject to your constant commie whining. |
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Post by bermudastone on Feb 19, 2020 16:45:51 GMT
I am sure I will come to regret correct someone calling themselves "Pedant' but according to this site there have been three pubs in the Maidstone area calling themselves 'Eagle'. Their addresses are/were: 56 Brewer St, 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street. www.dover-kent.com/2014-villages/Maidstone.htmlFor what it's worth, I was referring to the one on Brewer St, which is the one in the article. Tstone was pointing out that there was also one in Upper Stone Street and sword was confirming it. This link has probably been posted before but if not I hope it is of interest. It lists 15 pubs on Stone Street. Don't know how many there were in the 1960's but walking up Stone Street to school in those days there seemed to be a fair few !!! |
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Post by pedant on Feb 19, 2020 18:55:44 GMT
I am sure I will come to regret correct someone calling themselves "Pedant' but according to this site there have been three pubs in the Maidstone area calling themselves 'Eagle'. Their addresses are/were: 56 Brewer St, 2 Loose Road and 138 Upper Stone Street. www.dover-kent.com/2014-villages/Maidstone.htmlFor what it's worth, I was referring to the one on Brewer St, which is the one in the article. Tstone was pointing out that there was also one in Upper Stone Street and sword was confirming it. This link has probably been posted before but if not I hope it is of interest. It lists 15 pubs on Stone Street. Don't know how many there were in the 1960's but walking up Stone Street to school in those days there seemed to be a fair few !!! This list seems to add some information and cast doubts / confusion on other bits. The three pubs I concentrated on , 2 x Eagles and the Fortune of War now each have two different addresses.
Using both lists and my memory I recall the following in 'Stone Street' in the late 60's.
Coming from town: Lower Stone Street Fisherman's Arms still open White Lion replaced by Miller House Upper Stone Street The Pilot still open (?) Duke of Brunswick junction of Brunswick Street - demolished Brenchley Arms building still there, vacant I think. Last used as a shop selling door hinges and handles Papermakers still open Fortune of War building still there, converted to 'flats' Loose Road The Eagle replaced by Tesco Express
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