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Post by pebble on Nov 29, 2014 8:19:25 GMT
This matter should be taken seriously by the club and is very easily resolved. I agree totally with the comments regarding "crocodile Dundee". He needs to be spending less time in the VIP area and more time in the areas where his expertise are required. Maybe a change of personnel needed?
If there is the will to resolve this matter then let the stewards remove the offenders from the ground. If required I am sure with a bit of pre planning, liaison by the "security head" Kent Police would assist if required. A public show of strength would send the message to any wannabe morons.
If the offenders have been identified and there is evidence of criminal behaviour then hand over the evidence to the police who would investigate and then through judicial process football banning orders etc could be invoked. There is a dedicated football liason officer at the police.
Fan power is important if you see or hear something tell the stewards, don't get involved in physical confrontation but use the proper channels to remove this problem. We all love our team so let's be the best we can on and off the field.
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Nov 29, 2014 9:39:48 GMT
I do hope the powers that be don't simply burry their heads in the sand again.
Because this haven't worked over the last year where its appeared to have got worse despite the club claiming to have a zero tolerance.
Some of the chanting at Margate and Dulwich at home made me cringe it's so embarrassing for the reputation of the club and it's 99% of wonderful fan's
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Nov 29, 2014 9:58:34 GMT
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Post by jt on Nov 29, 2014 10:04:19 GMT
Banning orders don't come down as far as our level that's why we end up with a small handful of idiots at non league
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Nov 29, 2014 10:19:20 GMT
Banning orders don't come down as far as our level that's why we end up with a small handful of idiots at non league That is the problem Wealdstone have been having for years now with nutters on banning orders from league clubs going there untill there orders are lifted. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 10:41:39 GMT
Banning orders don't come down as far as our level that's why we end up with a small handful of idiots at non league Is there a reason why this is so? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 10:45:56 GMT
Difficult to administer at a guess?
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Post by Loftus Road Stone. on Nov 29, 2014 11:23:35 GMT
Banning orders don't come down as far as our level that's why we end up with a small handful of idiots at non league Is there a reason why this is so? The way I understand it a order bans the said person from a mile radius around all 92 pro clubs grounds from three hours before to two hours after a first team game. This must be near impossible for the smaller league club's to enforce this into there cash turnstiles with hundreds on orders. So there must be done by police spotters or cctv spotters around the ground it must be so expensive and difficult in league one and two and therefore impossible further down. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 11:28:09 GMT
Spectator information. Maidstone United Football Club are responsible to the Kent County Football Association for the actions of their spectators and is required to use all due diligence to prevent spectators either invading the pitch, throwing missiles on to it and/or threatening officials and players at any time. Any spectator in breach of these instructions will be removed from the ground and may face prosecution. We will also take appropriate action against spectators who use foul, abusive or offensive language. Please help us to ensure that the excellent reputation of both Maidstone United and their supporters are preserved. Your support is one of the greatest assets and we are sure you feel as passionately as we do that our name should not be dragged through the mud. The Ryman Football League strongly support recent FA statement that there should be zero tolerance approach against racism and all forms of discrimination. Any form of discriminatory abuse whether it be based on race or ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender, faith, age, ability or any other form of abuse will be reported to the FA for action. The Gallagher Stadium is a non-smoking venue. This include e-cigarettes. The gates (A and B) are opened at half time for people who need a cigarette. Also see www.maidstoneunited.co.uk/ground-regulations/ |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 11:31:21 GMT
Ground Regulations
1. The Club reserves the right of admission to the Ground. On no account will admission be granted to a person who is subject of a Domestic Banning Order or Club Ban.
2. All matches will be played in accordance with the rules of the Football Association, the Isthmian League and the Laws of the game and with such rules and regulations as the Maidstone United Football Club may make from time to time.
3. Play cannot be guaranteed to take place on any particular day or at any particular time and Maidstone United FC reserves the right to change its advertised fixtures without prior notice and without liability.
4. No refund of any cash admission charge paid at the turnstile will be made.
5. In the event of a match being abandoned before half time a voucher for the rearranged match will be issued on the production of a ticket snub.
6. Should the match be abandoned after half time there will be no vouchers issued, or refunds made. Everyone must pay again when the match is rearranged.
7. All persons entering the ground must pay for admission or hold a valid match ticket. Persons issued with an admission ticket must retain the snub and tickets issued for the main stand for a specific seat, must be retained and must occupy that seat, unless instructed otherwise by a steward.
8. Persistent standing in the main stand while the game is in progress is strictly forbidden and could result in ejection from the ground.
9. The club reserves the right to refuse admission to, or eject, from the ground, any person who refuses to be searched by any steward, servant or agent of the club or by any police officer.
10. Fireworks, flares, smoke canisters, laser devices, air horns, knives, bottles, glass vessels, flags, banners, poles and other similar articles or containers, which might be used as a weapon, are not permitted in the ground.
11. The throwing of any object within the ground is strictly forbidden.
12. The use of foul and abusive language, threatening behaviour, obscene chanting, or racist abuse towards any person is strictly forbidden.
13. Smoking of any substance is not allowed in any part of the ground. This includes e-cigarettes.
14. Unauthorised persons are strictly forbidden from entering upon the field of play or the surrounding area unless advised to do so in an emergency.
15. In the event of a crowd segregated game, the moving from one enclosed area of the ground to another without the permission of a steward, police officer or other authorised agent of Maidstone United FC is strictly forbidden.
16. The obstruction of gangways, access ways, exits and entrances, stairways and like places and the standing in seated areas whilst play is in progress is strictly forbidden. Any person who persistently contravenes this regulation will be ejected from the ground.
17. The climbing of floodlight pylon stands or any other structure within the ground is strictly forbidden.
18. Unnecessary noise such as that from the use of radio sets and behaviour likely to cause confusion or annoyance to any person is not permitted in any part of the ground.
19. Nobody may stand in any seating area whilst play is in progress. Persistent standing in seating areas whilst play is in progress is strictly forbidden and may result in ejection from the ground.
20. The consumption of intoxicating liquors is permitted only in places authorised in accordance with the Local Licensing Authority.
21. Any person attempting to enter the ground or being inside the ground whilst drunk will be ejected and may be arrested.
22. Being in possession of any intoxicating liquor, or bottle, can or other portable container used for holding such liquor, when entering the ground will result in the person being ejected.
23. Any person attempting to gain admission to, or being found within, a section of the ground designated for “Players, Management, Officials, Vice President’s or Directors” without the appropriate authorisation, may be ejected from the ground
24. Only persons specifically authorised in advance by Maidstone United FC are permitted to distribute either without charge or offer for sale within the ground any programmes, magazines or any other literature.
25. Anybody found damaging or defacing the property of Maidstone United FC will be prosecuted.
26. Anyone who uses insulting or improper conduct towards match officials will be removed from the ground
27. No animals, other than guide dogs, shall be brought into the ground.
28. Persons failing to comply with instructions from a steward, Police Officer or other authorised agent will be ejected from the ground.
29. Maidstone United FC reserves the right for its servants, agents and Police Officers to remove from the ground any person who does not comply with these ground regulation, the rules and regulations of the Football Association and the Isthmian Football League or whose presence within the ground is, or could reasonably be construed as, constituting a source of danger, nuisance or annoyance to any other person.
30. ALL PERSONS ENTERING THE GROUND ARE ADMITTED ONLY SUBJECT TO THEIR ACCEPTANCE OF THE ABOVE GROUND REGULATIONS AND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION AND THE ISHTMIAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE. ENTRY TO THE GROUND WILL CONSTITUTE UNQUALIFIED ACCEPTANCE OF THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
Ian Tucker
Club Secretary
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Post by jt on Nov 29, 2014 12:04:49 GMT
Banning orders don't come down as far as our level that's why we end up with a small handful of idiots at non league Is there a reason why this is so? The legislation that cover this is massive and would run into hundreds of pages of legal documents. In short though the FA has different catalogues of game, A being premiership, B championship with the lowest class C. From memory the conference prem is covered but I'm not sure about the north and south. This is also one of the reasons we are allowed to drink in view of the pitch apart from FA cup as these are categorised. A banning order will be individual to each person and will not prevent anyone from being within a mile of a ground as that would be a logistical nightmare to enforce. I have a feeling it will be down to the fact that there are so many non league clubs out there that it would never be able to be cascaded down. I see that within the ground regs that they reserve the right to refuse entry to anyone on a banning order. I have no clue how they would know who is and who isn't. It will be down to the club to ban anyone they want and to enforce it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 12:10:30 GMT
Couldn't we just station a couple of burly stewards in the middle of the Town End as a deterrent? It worked with nuclear missiles.
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Post by joshstone on Nov 29, 2014 12:23:32 GMT
10. Fireworks, flares, smoke canisters, laser devices, air horns, knives, bottles, glass vessels, flags, banners, poles and other similar articles or containers, which might be used as a weapon, are not permitted in the ground.
Incredible thread, someone swears a lot, idiotic I know and 7 pages, someone lets off a smoke canister in a crowded, confined space, surely this was far more idiotic and dangerous (for a minute it was quite frightening, I know I was in the middle of it), but no one mentions it.
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Post by jt on Nov 29, 2014 12:34:05 GMT
Couldn't we just station a couple of burly stewards in the middle of the Town End as a deterrent? It worked with nuclear missiles. When did they have nukes in the town end? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2014 12:36:06 GMT
10. Fireworks, flares, smoke canisters, laser devices, air horns, knives, bottles, glass vessels, flags, banners, poles and other similar articles or containers, which might be used as a weapon, are not permitted in the ground. Incredible thread, someone swears a lot, idiotic I know and 7 pages, someone lets off a smoke canister in a crowded, confined space, surely this was far more idiotic and dangerous (for a minute it was quite frightening, I know I was in the middle of it), but no one mentions it. The thread is not about swearing a lot |
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