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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 21:13:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 21:20:49 GMT
I have a season ticket at one of the top 4 premier league clubs. For games with a limited capacity / away days / cup finals etc it is done on a loyalty basis. So, you're a fellow Hammer?! But what's the point of a season ticket for there when you are always here on match days??? Cos he's minted. Also, if he ditches it, its a 10 year waiting list for another. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 23:45:39 GMT
What would you suggest? They cannot make another level of priority as we would be at square 1 again, only this time fans would be paying £15 to not get tickets, you cannot make a waiting list as this does not solve the problemo in hand. I have suggested (twice) that you can choose to get enrolled into the fan club when you have been to ten games at the Gallagher. That way you either encourage a £15 payment or people through the gate. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 0:04:34 GMT
Unfortunately we became a business over a football club a long time ago rather than vice versa. Yes I know you need to be a successful business first and foremost alas we're all viewed as customers rather than supporters. If only we'd gone down the Dulwich road rather than chase the £ road. Obviously all the wags will pipe up at this and drone on about business model. I just wish we were treated as supporters. After all Im sure thats why a lot of us fell in love with non-league. As for all those saying phone the club, well it would be nice if you actually got a response from them... Sadly, I think that is what has been the worst realisation for me, snitch. I don't think it is quite as bad as you say but the realisation that once upon a time I just went and supported my team at the games I could get to and now I seemingly can't. I know, deep down, that you need to have a sensible business plan or things will flounder and getting lots of Maidstonians supporting the team was always what drove me on to do the various (sometimes crackpot) things we did to try and get back home. However, it is frustrating that after all those years of wanting something I have become a little disillusioned with it. It's lost it's old friendly sparkle and the enjoyment of going along, meeting up with everyone knowing that everyone was as equally as passionate as you about it and win, lose or draw you enjoyed the day. I have been enjoying the away games more now for a couple of seasons, sometimes ditching home games in favour of them if forced to make a choice. For me something ceased to be a little while ago and this whole ticketing saga just brought it home. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 1:53:57 GMT
Unfortunately we became a business over a football club a long time ago rather than vice versa. Yes I know you need to be a successful business first and foremost alas we're all viewed as customers rather than supporters. If only we'd gone down the Dulwich road rather than chase the £ road. Obviously all the wags will pipe up at this and drone on about business model. I just wish we were treated as supporters. After all Im sure thats why a lot of us fell in love with non-league. As for all those saying phone the club, well it would be nice if you actually got a response from them... Sadly, I think that is what has been the worst realisation for me, snitch. I don't think it is quite as bad as you say but the realisation that once upon a time I just went and supported my team at the games I could get to and now I seemingly can't. I know, deep down, that you need to have a sensible business plan or things will flounder and getting lots of Maidstonians supporting the team was always what drove me on to do the various (sometimes crackpot) things we did to try and get back home. However, it is frustrating that after all those years of wanting something I have become a little disillusioned with it. It's lost it's old friendly sparkle and the enjoyment of going along, meeting up with everyone knowing that everyone was as equally as passionate as you about it and win, lose or draw you enjoyed the day. I have been enjoying the away games more now for a couple of seasons, sometimes ditching home games in favour of them if forced to make a choice. For me something ceased to be a little while ago and this whole ticketing saga just brought it home. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 7:12:41 GMT
Sadly, I think that is what has been the worst realisation for me, snitch. I don't think it is quite as bad as you say but the realisation that once upon a time I just went and supported my team at the games I could get to and now I seemingly can't. I know, deep down, that you need to have a sensible business plan or things will flounder and getting lots of Maidstonians supporting the team was always what drove me on to do the various (sometimes crackpot) things we did to try and get back home. However, it is frustrating that after all those years of wanting something I have become a little disillusioned with it. It's lost it's old friendly sparkle and the enjoyment of going along, meeting up with everyone knowing that everyone was as equally as passionate as you about it and win, lose or draw you enjoyed the day. I have been enjoying the away games more now for a couple of seasons, sometimes ditching home games in favour of them if forced to make a choice. For me something ceased to be a little while ago and this whole ticketing saga just brought it home. Welcome to the world of disillusion experienced by people involved in just about every campaign in human history, even when you achieve exactly what you wanted. That feeling of not wanting to let go. The realisation that you quite enjoyed the uniqueness of the unhappy situation you were in. Even trying to keep the old campaign going when everyone else has rolled up their banners and gone home. What was disappointing at the Sudbury game was listening to a couple of the old guard castigating everyone else present (in one case very loudly walking past the terrace) for only being there for FA Cup tickets. Bollocks. I was there for the game, and had no intention of buying a cup ticket. Guess what? It's not your club any more. You are no longer "the few". There are thousands of new fans with just as much right to be there, as they have paid their money and done what the club asked to get cup tickets. The much hated business plan is what brought us home and will ensure there is a club for our kids to support; kids who have no interest hearing about Ashford and Sittingbourne. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 7:15:30 GMT
What if regular fans were urged to keep their old tickets so they could be used as 'vouchers' to prove loyalty when the big matches come up? Perhaps the tickets could have something printed on the reverse saying such. In a relatively short space of time, regular fans would get to know that keeping their tickets is a good idea.
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Post by jt on Nov 17, 2014 7:49:40 GMT
Sadly, I think that is what has been the worst realisation for me, snitch. I don't think it is quite as bad as you say but the realisation that once upon a time I just went and supported my team at the games I could get to and now I seemingly can't. I know, deep down, that you need to have a sensible business plan or things will flounder and getting lots of Maidstonians supporting the team was always what drove me on to do the various (sometimes crackpot) things we did to try and get back home. However, it is frustrating that after all those years of wanting something I have become a little disillusioned with it. It's lost it's old friendly sparkle and the enjoyment of going along, meeting up with everyone knowing that everyone was as equally as passionate as you about it and win, lose or draw you enjoyed the day. I have been enjoying the away games more now for a couple of seasons, sometimes ditching home games in favour of them if forced to make a choice. For me something ceased to be a little while ago and this whole ticketing saga just brought it home. Welcome to the world of disillusion experienced by people involved in just about every campaign in human history, even when you achieve exactly what you wanted. That feeling of not wanting to let go. The realisation that you quite enjoyed the uniqueness of the unhappy situation you were in. Even trying to keep the old campaign going when everyone else has rolled up their banners and gone home. What was disappointing at the Sudbury game was listening to a couple of the old guard castigating everyone else present (in one case very loudly walking past the terrace) for only being there for FA Cup tickets. Bollocks. I was there for the game, and had no intention of buying a cup ticket. Guess what? It's not your club any more. You are no longer "the few". There are thousands of new fans with just as much right to be there, as they have paid their money and done what the club asked to get cup tickets. The much hated business plan is what brought us home and will ensure there is a club for our kids to support; kids who have no interest hearing about Ashford and Sittingbourne. Something I've said for a long time and thank you for proving a point. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 7:51:44 GMT
Aylesford you're spot on with your psychology lesson! It's possible to feel for the 'oldies' who feel something's lost but the club had to move on, the old days were unsustainable, the club was going bust in 2010.
It's not always easy to adjust to a new order, some people feel left out now when in the past they felt they were a key part of a small intimate group battling to survive.
You have to look positive on the fact we'ee now a big club with more fans even if the large numbers bring problems, beer-throwing idiots, provocative idiots, racist homophobe idiots.
The club is still run as far as I can see by people ewho are oldies, all old fans from many years back. As such they are trying to do what they can to treat the oldie fans as specisl and give them what privileges they can. Not easy but they try. Patience needed and good will.
Hope the old fans can still feel a special part of this amazing success this season and not feel miffed.
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Post by binsey on Nov 17, 2014 7:58:43 GMT
I still cant believe people are still whittering on about this.
Season ticket holders priority then fan members then general public. Its not like it wasn't advertised. At the end of the day the ground isn't big enough for the demand so people will always lose out on a game of this nature.
Before I get slated !! I am a Man Utd member and even I don't get tickets for games I apply for.
The current system works, but fully understand that if people are getting more than one ticket then thats unacceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 16:37:41 GMT
What if regular fans were urged to keep their old tickets so they could be used as 'vouchers' to prove loyalty when the big matches come up? Perhaps the tickets could have something printed on the reverse saying such. In a relatively short space of time, regular fans would get to know that keeping their tickets is a good idea. I go to a lot of matches, and the stones fans I know would all lose the old tickets, guarenteed... Doesn't mean they're not real fans just clumsy |
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Post by jt on Nov 17, 2014 16:47:46 GMT
Aylesford you're spot on with your psychology lesson! It's possible to feel for the 'oldies' who feel something's lost but the club had to move on, the old days were unsustainable, the club was going bust in 2010. It's not always easy to adjust to a new order, some people feel left out now when in the past they felt they were a key part of a small intimate group battling to survive. You have to look positive on the fact we'ee now a big club with more fans even if the large numbers bring problems, beer-throwing idiots, provocative idiots, racist homophobe idiots. The club is still run as far as I can see by people ewho are oldies, all old fans from many years back. As such they are trying to do what they can to treat the oldie fans as specisl and give them what privileges they can. Not easy but they try. Patience needed and good will. Hope the old fans can still feel a special part of this amazing success this season and not feel miffed. The club is run by Terry Casey, Oliver Ash and Bill Williams. They do what is right by the club and d not have favourites by any means. Try talking to them on a match day and you'll find them very approachable. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 16:55:58 GMT
Now i'm just confused - yeah, it doesn't take a lot - let's see if i've got this right - the 'old guard' have served their time and should move on while people who will be attending their first game v Stevenage are equally not welcome - that leaves just the old 'newbies' to bicker over the right to buy tickets provided they are not beer-throwing idiots, provocative idiots, racist homophobe idiots stupid enough to lose a ticket stub from a previous game?
Have i got that about right
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2014 18:07:07 GMT
Sadly, I think that is what has been the worst realisation for me, snitch. I don't think it is quite as bad as you say but the realisation that once upon a time I just went and supported my team at the games I could get to and now I seemingly can't. I know, deep down, that you need to have a sensible business plan or things will flounder and getting lots of Maidstonians supporting the team was always what drove me on to do the various (sometimes crackpot) things we did to try and get back home. However, it is frustrating that after all those years of wanting something I have become a little disillusioned with it. It's lost it's old friendly sparkle and the enjoyment of going along, meeting up with everyone knowing that everyone was as equally as passionate as you about it and win, lose or draw you enjoyed the day. I have been enjoying the away games more now for a couple of seasons, sometimes ditching home games in favour of them if forced to make a choice. For me something ceased to be a little while ago and this whole ticketing saga just brought it home. Welcome to the world of disillusion experienced by people involved in just about every campaign in human history, even when you achieve exactly what you wanted. That feeling of not wanting to let go. The realisation that you quite enjoyed the uniqueness of the unhappy situation you were in. Even trying to keep the old campaign going when everyone else has rolled up their banners and gone home. What was disappointing at the Sudbury game was listening to a couple of the old guard castigating everyone else present (in one case very loudly walking past the terrace) for only being there for FA Cup tickets. Bollocks. I was there for the game, and had no intention of buying a cup ticket. Guess what? It's not your club any more. You are no longer "the few". There are thousands of new fans with just as much right to be there, as they have paid their money and done what the club asked to get cup tickets. The much hated business plan is what brought us home and will ensure there is a club for our kids to support; kids who have no interest hearing about Ashford and Sittingbourne. I haven't argued that people shouldn't be there. In fact my post says that one of the reasons for battling away all those years was to have loads more Maidstonians going. However, I can't disagree with the comment about it not being my club any more. As I say, I liked it when you just turned up and watched. Now we are in an era of scrabbling for tickets, dealing with yobs and high (sometimes ridiculous expectations etc etc. I know it comes with the territory if you want to go higher and higher. That, aylesford, is probably why I don't want to go higher and higher. |
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Post by springfieldstone on Nov 17, 2014 18:16:34 GMT
8-)Well just stay away and go support Herne Bay.
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