Votes won at Conference EGM

[southwick1]

Can anybody confirm this is how the breakdown of voting went.Sorry if this has been mentioned in a previous thread.

National Division.........7 votes

South Division.............3 votes

North Division..............1 vote

[toonarmy]

No the North and South have a block vote of 4

[daveu]

I believe the north and south votes are allocated on a simple majority, i.e. more than 50% in favour you get all 4, less than 50% you get none, if the vote is even you get 2. I would think the chances are we got all 8 north and south and 3 from national.

[alans]

Wasn't the question about how the 11 votes in favour were broken down?

[russc]

Looks like the Grimsby Chairman's not a fan then:

www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Football-played-grass-ndash-artificial-pitches/story-20542844-detail/story.html

He trots out all the usual nonsense about unfair advantages, and hilariously says he's worried "when goals are scored that wouldn't be on a grass pitch". Not sure what he means by that.

A couple of interesting comments about the vote though:

"I see all of the pros and cons about 3G pitches but, that said, I would have liked to have heard them at the meeting.

"The proposal was put forward, but seemingly no-one wanted to speak about the reasons behind it and fight the corner for artificial pitches."

[oxfordinmaid]

Why assume we got the north and south vote !!! needed 50% + to get their votes !

Also why many on here so anti the ex football league clubs are MUFC not one !!

[Sennockian69]

Feb 3, 2014 9:59:36 GMT russc said:

Looks like the Grimsby Chairman's not a fan then:

www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Football-played-grass-ndash-artificial-pitches/story-20542844-detail/story.html

He trots out all the usual nonsense about unfair advantages, and hilariously says he's worried "when goals are scored that wouldn't be on a grass pitch". Not sure what he means by that.

A couple of interesting comments about the vote though:

"I see all of the pros and cons about 3G pitches but, that said, I would have liked to have heard them at the meeting.

"The proposal was put forward, but seemingly no-one wanted to speak about the reasons behind it and fight the corner for artificial pitches."

Our problem is that too many opinion formers have as their reference point the 1980's! It's thirty years since those days!  

[southwick1]

I saw a posting on the Merthyr Town Forum.

Posting from 'The Wanderer'

Actual voting earlier this week at the Conference EGM on allowing 3G playing surfaces:

Conference National Clubs = 7 in favour 17 against
Conference South Clubs = 3 in favour 1 against
Conference North Clubs = 1 in favour 3 against

Both Sutton United (who proposed the motion) and Dorchester (who supported the motion) declined to speak on the proposal!

Quite surprised that there was almost 30% support from Conference National Clubs.

[oxfordinmaid]

Feb 3, 2014 10:51:31 GMT southwick1 said:

I saw a posting on the Merthyr Town Forum.

Posting from 'The Wanderer'

Actual voting earlier this week at the Conference EGM on allowing 3G playing surfaces:

Conference National Clubs = 7 in favour 17 against
Conference South Clubs = 3 in favour 1 against
Conference North Clubs = 1 in favour 3 against

Both Sutton United (who proposed the motion) and Dorchester (who supported the motion) declined to speak on the proposal!

Quite surprised that there was almost 30% support from Conference National Clubs.

That w

Why surprised !!!

Its the Shi! small clubs that will want to put the boot in !!!

[steveh21]

The voting system is still as clear as mud. How were the four votes allocated? What does '1 against' actually mean if this is a block vote for all the division's clubs?? please explain someone!!!

[russc]

Feb 3, 2014 11:11:37 GMT steveh21 said:

The voting system is still as clear as mud. How were the four votes allocated? What does '1 against' actually mean if this is a block vote for all the division's clubs?? please explain someone!!!

I'm with you here Steve, I've looked on the Conference site and there's nothing in the rules about voting rights and how they are exercised

[ontheup]

Interesting that the Football Conference and Skrill reach a mutual decision to end sponsorship at the end of the season.

[jdl]

Hard to believe there isn't a simple answer to this one - and that one of us hasn't yet found out what it is!

And since Jim Thompson was the driving force behind the creation of the Pyramid and the Alliance/Conference, how come he didn't fix it for us to have 'special considerations' when votes concerned us?!

But, on a (slightly) more serious note - we are up against a bit more than just the pig-headedness of the Conference on this one. It's quite possible that a majority of Conference clubs would vote for 3G pitches to be allowed if it didn't directly affect them. But at least half the clubs in the Conference Premier will consider themselves as having a reasonable chance of being promoted to the FL sometime in the next few seasons - and they aren't going to shaft their chances by doing anything that might (even indirectly) endanger that.

There's no way you're going to get a balanced or dispassionate view on 3G from the CP.

I think the eventual outcome will be a fudge - especially if we do gain promotion. Something along the lines of allowing us (and only us) in with 3G, on condition we revert to grass within 3 years (and, of course, we hope that by then they will have seen sense). And/or allowing 3G pitches only in the North and South divisions - but you have to switch to grass within (say) 3 years of promotion to the CP (and, again, we hope this will give them the breathing space to see sense).

But, as I implied above, ultimately what the Conference decides on 3G will depend on the FL's attitude changing. And that, of course, will be based on the PL's and FA's attitudes...

I think the best we can hope for is a gradual relaxation of the rules working its way up the pyramid over the next 10-15 years - hopefully spurred on by us winning promotion this season.

Which will suit me fine!

[jdl]

Feb 3, 2014 13:27:44 GMT ontheup said:

Interesting that the Football Conference and Skrill reach a mutual decision to end sponsorship at the end of the season.

I've no idea who Skrill are.

So that sponsorship worked well then...

[Deleted]

Skrill are on online payment company, along similar lines to Paypal - but far-far less famous!