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Post by joshstone on Jan 25, 2014 0:18:01 GMT
To be fair. I'm behind 3G as much as anyone but I do look at a nice grass pitch and don't believe you can beat the real thing. If the absolute worst came to worst how hard would it be to lay a grass pitch mid season? The ground beneath is all set for a perfect grass playing surface. It would just be the weather factor The financial viability of the club is dependent on the 3g pitch. Ripping it up and replacing with grass isn't an option. If, and unfortunately looking at the voting structure for this I'm not too optimistic, 3g is rejected, the prospect of no promotion, dwindling crowds, loss of interest in the club, sponsorship, bar takings and inability to attract players, I would suggest grass would be the only option. Right behind Oliver and Terry on this, but it's one hell of a risk they have taken, unfortunately common sense and football don't go hand in hand
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Jan 25, 2014 0:22:06 GMT
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Post by ontheup on Jan 25, 2014 0:22:06 GMT
Only if the conference fail to see sense....we need to be in a position to force the conference to make a decision.
How will it look if they refuse to accept us in their league? Because we have a pitch that is accepted by the governing body's in world football. A pitch that has proved to be pivotal to the community. A business model that that means we are self sufficient at a time when some of the conference clubs are struggling to make ends meet,
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Jan 25, 2014 7:16:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 7:16:14 GMT
Surely we can't sacrifice a promotion for the sake of going to grass? The club in the end if 3g was refused would retain the 3g. They have repeatedly stated there is no way the 3g would be replaced with grass. If promotion was lost because of it then the battle to change the rules would continue. Its no good ripping up the 3g and slashing your income when at the same time significantly increasing your costs with a promotion. You have to be financially viable to meet the increases or you become just another footy club in a financial mess. Been there seen that done that!
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Jan 25, 2014 8:47:20 GMT
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Post by islandstone on Jan 25, 2014 8:47:20 GMT
If its solely down to the clubs to decide Maidstone future then that is wrong. I hope its only an opinion vote to be considered. If a majority vote goes against us that would sway the thinking of the conference body. Lot of revenue could be lost to the smaller clubs if we're not allowed in. In the Ryman other clubs openly admit they look forward to stones travelling fans to fill their coffers. If its good enough to train on 3g them its good enough to play on. I don't think we'll be allowed it though. Do I think our crowd will dwindle maybe by 200. We'll continue til its resolved one way or the other. We are Maidstone united.
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Jan 25, 2014 8:57:46 GMT
Post by peanuts on Jan 25, 2014 8:57:46 GMT
If its solely down to the clubs to decide Maidstone future then that is wrong. I hope its only an opinion vote to be considered. If a majority vote goes against us that would sway the thinking of the conference body. Lot of revenue could be lost to the smaller clubs if we're not allowed in. In the Ryman other clubs openly admit they look forward to stones travelling fans to fill their coffers. If its good enough to train on 3g them its good enough to play on. I don't think we'll be allowed it though. Do I think our crowd will dwindle maybe by 200. We'll continue til its resolved one way or the other. We are Maidstone united. It's not wrong for other people to decide maidstones future, it's the whole league. 3G pitches are fine if all you're interested in is finance. But traditionalists like to see football played on grass. If the votes go against us, there's your answer.
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Jan 25, 2014 8:59:42 GMT
Post by oxfordinmaid on Jan 25, 2014 8:59:42 GMT
If its solely down to the clubs to decide Maidstone future then that is wrong. I hope its only an opinion vote to be considered. If a majority vote goes against us that would sway the thinking of the conference body. Lot of revenue could be lost to the smaller clubs if we're not allowed in. In the Ryman other clubs openly admit they look forward to stones travelling fans to fill their coffers. If its good enough to train on 3g them its good enough to play on. I don't think we'll be allowed it though. Do I think our crowd will dwindle maybe by 200. We'll continue til its resolved one way or the other. We are Maidstone united. Sorry but yes the crowds will drop , football fans in general watch their team in the hope they will get promoted , people will lose interest if this is as high as we can go !!
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Jan 25, 2014 9:12:07 GMT
Post by tim on Jan 25, 2014 9:12:07 GMT
Asking the clubs to vote for 3g is like asking turkeys to vote for christmas Ripping up the 3g is a ridiculous idea and just cant happen! I tend to agree that it probably wont happen this year, and if we have another season in the Prem then so be it It will change eventually, probably needs more lobbying! Football changes, I watched games on tv from the top division in the 70's played on mud baths, today the refs would call them off, football evolves
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 9:17:37 GMT
If its solely down to the clubs to decide Maidstone future then that is wrong. I hope its only an opinion vote to be considered. If a majority vote goes against us that would sway the thinking of the conference body. Lot of revenue could be lost to the smaller clubs if we're not allowed in. In the Ryman other clubs openly admit they look forward to stones travelling fans to fill their coffers. If its good enough to train on 3g them its good enough to play on. I don't think we'll be allowed it though. Do I think our crowd will dwindle maybe by 200. We'll continue til its resolved one way or the other. We are Maidstone united. Sorry but yes the crowds will drop , football fans in general watch their team in the hope they will get promoted , people will lose interest if this is as high as we can go !! This vote isnt the be all and end all. I fully expect the clubs to vote against it and the conference need that vote to support the line they have taken and to continue in that policy. There's morefight in this yet. In the words of Winston Churchill....'This is not the end, nor is it the beginning of the end but it is perhaps the end of the beginning.'
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Post by toonarmy on Jan 25, 2014 9:56:26 GMT
Whilst I would love the club to get promoted this year, this could be a blessing in disguise, it will give us another year in a fairly competitive league, our players will also develop, so once the mandarins at the FA and Conference realise 3G is the way ahead , we will be more than ready to step up, I pity the supporters of Tonbridge I really do, to watch them struggle year on year flirting with relegation can't be much fun, hopefully that fight will end this year and they will drop into the Rymans and we will either swap places with them or we will have a real derby game against them next year, whatever happens I will still watch the Stones next year and the many seasons that follow.....COYS
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Jan 25, 2014 10:05:56 GMT
Post by ontheup on Jan 25, 2014 10:05:56 GMT
Whilst I would love the club to get promoted this year, this could be a blessing in disguise, it will give us another year in a fairly competitive league, our players will also develop, so once the mandarins at the FA and Conference realise 3G is the way ahead , we will be more than ready to step up, I pity the supporters of Tonbridge I really do, to watch them struggle year on year flirting with relegation can't be much fun, hopefully that fight will end this year and they will drop into the Rymans and we will either swap places with them or we will have a real derby game against them next year, whatever happens I will still watch the Stones next year and the many seasons that follow.....COYS Not sure you'd pity them so much if you read the sort of stuff they write about us and our players, they were practically popping corks off the back of Dover's declaration they wouldn't be supporting 3G. They will dissolve in their own bitterness, and when it comes to Frannie and Worgs, "sinking ships" come to mind. Good job their manager has a little more about him, and sees what is required for non league football to move forward.
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Jan 25, 2014 11:21:29 GMT
Post by overthehillstone on Jan 25, 2014 11:21:29 GMT
I see on the Hampton website, their manager is a supporter of 3G..
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Jan 25, 2014 11:44:41 GMT
Post by suffolkstone on Jan 25, 2014 11:44:41 GMT
If the vote is turned down ( or when ) surely the only option for the future of the 1st team at MUFC is to rip the 3G up and replace with grass. If we are not promoted this year we will affectively be playing 23 home friendlies (barring relegation) next season, with only cup games being competitive. We would also become a pain in the arse to the whole of the Ryman Premier League, with effectively a star against our name on the league table, 'unable for promotion' The owners will surely have to weigh up the financial costs. Community or 1st team ? just to add the average home crowd for our 6 home friendlies was 694 played on warm afternoons or evenings.. Cant believe this sort of thing is hanging over the club again, although not as serious as 1991 it is leaving a sour taste in the mouth.
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Post by ontheup on Jan 25, 2014 11:54:13 GMT
If its solely down to the clubs to decide Maidstone future then that is wrong. I hope its only an opinion vote to be considered. If a majority vote goes against us that would sway the thinking of the conference body. Lot of revenue could be lost to the smaller clubs if we're not allowed in. In the Ryman other clubs openly admit they look forward to stones travelling fans to fill their coffers. If its good enough to train on 3g them its good enough to play on. I don't think we'll be allowed it though. Do I think our crowd will dwindle maybe by 200. We'll continue til its resolved one way or the other. We are Maidstone united. It's not wrong for other people to decide maidstones future, it's the whole league. 3G pitches are fine if all you're interested in is finance. But traditionalists like to see football played on grass. If the votes go against us, there's your answer. All people want to see is football played, there hasn't been too much of that lately on grass. Any club who isn't interested in their finances will have a bleak future.
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Jan 25, 2014 11:57:36 GMT
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Post by ontheup on Jan 25, 2014 11:57:36 GMT
I see on the Hampton website, their manager is a supporter of 3G.. The vast majority of teams who have come and played at the Gallagher describe 3G as a "no brainier", it's the ones with "no brains" who need to come and play there, and make a decision based on that
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 12:07:42 GMT
Our 3g surface plays with 97% the same characteristics as Wembley according to independant testing in accordance with Fifa conditions for bounce roll abrasion etc please tell me what grass surface below the premier league can boast that and how it can play so different to real grass if it is as close as that to wembley and why there is a problem at all
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