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Jan 24, 2014 16:38:07 GMT
Post by Sennockian69 on Jan 24, 2014 16:38:07 GMT
If your lease is not " allowed to sub-let or sub-lease the ground – technically, we’re not allowed to let any other organisation play on the pitch as a condition of the lease. You can ask for permission, but it’s a long-winded process.” Well what are you there as a chairman for? Surely it's your job to negotiate the terms of the lease of your club and the strategy of the club. You are not the chairman to sit in the boardroom and drink tea. You are the key decision maker and need to earn your status.
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Jan 24, 2014 16:50:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 16:50:42 GMT
For a team that's playing style is much like that of Stoke's, did we really expect Dover to be all for it?
I am very confident that this decision will go our way next week. It will also be amazing to see how many clubs rip up their surface and replace it with a modern and fine 3G surface.
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Jan 24, 2014 17:02:13 GMT
Post by ontheup on Jan 24, 2014 17:02:13 GMT
To a degree I have respect for him being forthcoming and detailing his reasons. However, as is my fear, the whole question being asked by Oliver and Co is being dismissed.
We are asking for clubs to have the option of using 3G, so because it's not a viable option for Dover he is voting against it? Because as he says "Times have changed", the lease on the Crabble has nothing to do with the question being asked, the fact you need a working PA system, what has that got to do with 3G?
And of course the age old arguments regarding injuries...so Saracens haven't considered this? And the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona haven't looked into this, considering they have the most precious assets in World Football?
But he's happy for his academy lads to play on it and have the 1st team train on one for 4 hours a week?
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Jan 24, 2014 17:11:02 GMT
Post by signalstone on Jan 24, 2014 17:11:02 GMT
To a degree I have respect for him being forthcoming and detailing his reasons. However, as is my fear, the whole question being asked by Oliver and Co is being dismissed. We are asking for clubs to have the option of using 3G, so because it's not a viable option for Dover he is voting against it? Because as he says "Times have changed", the lease on the Crabble has nothing to do with the question being asked, the fact you need a working PA system, what has that got to do with 3G? And of course the age old arguments regarding injuries...so Saracens haven't considered this? And the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona haven't looked into this, considering they have the most precious assets in World Football? But he's happy for his academy lads to play on it and have the 1st team train on one for 4 hours a week? l think Parmenter comes across as a bit confused, narrow minded and his reasons against have too many holes and contradictions. I have my fingers and toes all crossed for the 29th.
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Jan 24, 2014 18:22:05 GMT
Post by headstone on Jan 24, 2014 18:22:05 GMT
Are we backing the wrong horse? According to PBB in the Thamesmead programme, they have a 4G practice pitch. 3G is so last year!
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Jan 24, 2014 18:25:28 GMT
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Post by islandstone on Jan 24, 2014 18:25:28 GMT
To a degree I have respect for him being forthcoming and detailing his reasons. However, as is my fear, the whole question being asked by Oliver and Co is being dismissed. We are asking for clubs to have the option of using 3G, so because it's not a viable option for Dover he is voting against it? Because as he says "Times have changed", the lease on the Crabble has nothing to do with the question being asked, the fact you need a working PA system, what has that got to do with 3G? And of course the age old arguments regarding injuries...so Saracens haven't considered this? And the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona haven't looked into this, considering they have the most precious assets in World Football? But he's happy for his academy lads to play on it and have the 1st team train on one for 4 hours a week? I think Dover may be concerned about what we may become as a rival over the next few years if we climb the league's. Player pulling power etc.
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Jan 24, 2014 19:23:31 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 19:23:31 GMT
It won't go through this season. I'd be a lot more positive for the season after though, I feel it's something the FA need to do rather than leagues. The top conference premier teams won't vote it through as it's not in their interests. You'd have hoped we'd be in dialogue with Dartford, Welling, Woking, Tamworth - that kind of level to get their votes. That said if we suddenly got a Luton/Grimsby/Cambridge on board it'd blow this vote wide open - will never happen though. As for the N/S they only get 4 votes a piece don't they? How does that work?
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Jan 24, 2014 20:47:55 GMT
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Post by daveu on Jan 24, 2014 20:47:55 GMT
Are we backing the wrong horse? According to PBB in the Thamesmead programme, they have a 4G practice pitch. 3G is so last year! there's no such thing as 4g, it's just another way of marketing 3g.
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Jan 24, 2014 21:09:14 GMT
Post by Jonty on Jan 24, 2014 21:09:14 GMT
Eventually all the schools in and around Maidstone will have one of these pitches as they can see the benefits from a commercial point of view. My boys told me that MGS are planning to have one in place in the next 2 years. Maybe, one of the schools might even purchase this one in the longer term. If the club has long term ambitions then they will eventually reach a level where grass will be the only option. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet. Just enjoy what is in place at the present and the rest will take care of itself.
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Jan 24, 2014 23:24:34 GMT
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Post by harryhaddock on Jan 24, 2014 23:24:34 GMT
It won't go through this season. I'd be a lot more positive for the season after though, I feel it's something the FA need to do rather than leagues. The top conference premier teams won't vote it through as it's not in their interests. You'd have hoped we'd be in dialogue with Dartford, Welling, Woking, Tamworth - that kind of level to get their votes. That said if we suddenly got a Luton/Grimsby/Cambridge on board it'd blow this vote wide open - will never happen though. As for the N/S they only get 4 votes a piece don't they? How does that work? The challenge with the likes of Luton/Grimsby/Wrexham is that they are all really league clubs and have supporter bases big enough to fund having a grass pitch. If I take Grimsby as an example as I know a bit about them, they've had a great playing pitch for years now and would never replace with 3G. The question is whether they would be happy voting for others to have a pitch like that. Can't see what the incentive to vote with us would be for them as what they're voting for is to play away on 3G. Now common sense may prevail, but we've got to remember that most of the bigger teams and their fans don't want or need to know about the benefits and are still ignorant as to how good 3G really is. I'm keeping fingers crossed for Wednesday, but I fear ignorance will lead to the vote going against us and us taking the legal route.
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Jan 24, 2014 23:26:34 GMT
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Post by adz84 on Jan 24, 2014 23:26:34 GMT
To be fair. I'm behind 3G as much as anyone but I do look at a nice grass pitch and don't believe you can beat the real thing. If the absolute worst came to worst how hard would it be to lay a grass pitch mid season? The ground beneath is all set for a perfect grass playing surface. It would just be the weather factor
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Jan 24, 2014 23:41:55 GMT
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Post by daveu on Jan 24, 2014 23:41:55 GMT
To be fair. I'm behind 3G as much as anyone but I do look at a nice grass pitch and don't believe you can beat the real thing. If the absolute worst came to worst how hard would it be to lay a grass pitch mid season? The ground beneath is all set for a perfect grass playing surface. It would just be the weather factor The financial viability of the club is dependent on the 3g pitch. Ripping it up and replacing with grass isn't an option.
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Jan 24, 2014 23:59:12 GMT
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Post by adz84 on Jan 24, 2014 23:59:12 GMT
Maybe to pay back any money still owed. We're getting 4 times the average attendance other clubs are getting so I'm more than sure we're not solely alive just because we play on 3G
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Jan 25, 2014 0:05:20 GMT
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Post by ontheup on Jan 25, 2014 0:05:20 GMT
Maybe to pay back any money still owed. We're getting 4 times the average attendance other clubs are getting so I'm more than sure we're not solely alive just because we play on 3G Probably not, but we do have the cost of the ground to pay off, and reality is 3G is a brilliant business model. If the conference really aren't going to allow it then we stay where we are until the 3G needs replacing and in that time we should have paid off the ground. What makes me laugh is the Angels, slating our carpet, going on about us boasting about our millions, on a thread on their forum sandwiched by two othe threads about postponements and generating additional income. The answer is right there in front of them but they are letting their own bitterness stand in the way of progress.
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Jan 25, 2014 0:15:17 GMT
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Post by adz84 on Jan 25, 2014 0:15:17 GMT
Surely we can't sacrifice a promotion for the sake of going to grass?
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