Herne Bay - Who's Gan?

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I have been listening and you're right sadly.

Win, lose or draw the interviews sound the same.

Tbh hardly worth a listen to although I don't
like saying it.

A decent moan now and then from George would be appreciated

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Sept 29, 2024 10:37:46 GMT @grovergreenstone said:

Sept 29, 2024 9:58:50 GMT nick said:

Just been listening to George's post match interview.
He was happy with the result which is fair enough.
But he also sounded equally happy with the performance, particularly that the team kept a clean sheet.
What ?
George you do know that HB are a little club in the South East section of the Ishmian League.
The performance was not nearly good enough imo, once again our supporters came close to having their pants bored off.
I am not sure if George is happy enough with what's going on with the team at present, or if he doesn't like to admit to deficiencies publicly.
But you can only judge him by what he says.
I still think this team is short of at least 3 quality players in key positions, mostly in the attacking roles.
Until the team gets strengthened, we are likely to continue with some underwhelming performances.

If George is happy with what he sees, nothing will really change, the 2yrs of shit football will continue and the crowds will get smaller and smaller.

Seems a lot more than 2

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Nice ground, decent fans (the few I managed to find who weren't PL supporters slumming for the day), huge turnout, catering just about coped (but with maybe twice the crowd they expected, that's understandable), programmes ran out 30 minutes before the game started! (ditto above), pretty awful game, but all that matters at this stage is getting into the next round.

Or so everyone says. But what matters to me is that when I go away, I can be proud of the way my team performs. And yesterday, quite frankly, was embarrassing.

I am utterly baffled as to how the signs of improvement we have seen over recent weeks still has not resulted in us playing markedly better, or convincingly winning games. What is it that's still missing??

OK, Lumpovica is clearly out of his depth (his depth apparently being Sunday league football), and we are effectively one man short with him on the pitch. But go through the other players, and almost all of them are just the sort of players you'd want playing for the Stones. Yesterday, we had a cracking team on the pitch, with some excellent players on the bench. And yet we played like a team that only met each other when they got to the ground.

And what exactly were our strategy and tactics? Feed the ball to Blair and he will score? Not much chance of that, when he spends all his time getting the ball himself (and it's a good job he did, because no one else seemed up for it). Or maybe that was his role - get the ball and feed it to Coulthirst? We'll that worked well - how many attempts on goals did he have? I never ran out of fingers and I was only counting on one hand.

And then there's this weird thing of defenders constantly playing up-field. OK, with the exception of George's love-child (I'm assuming he must be, as nothing else makes sense), we are woefully short of tall players, so of course put Eweka and Greenidge up front for corners and free kicks. But they seemed to spend most of the game up there. It's a good job Herne Bay's forwards were as bad as they were, because our 'defence', apart from an erratic French goalie, consisted, throughout most of the game of just Fowler. If anyone else wondered why Seaman and Brookes seemed less effective than usual, it could be that they had to spend so much of their time in defence.

But we're through to the 4th round and maybe the draw will be kind to us, and at least we don't have go to Torquay. Just yet...

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Yet another depressing read from jdl who once again expresses his disappointment and frustration of the most recent Stones performance.

Bang on the money !

[Harry]

Unlike some supporters I'm not going to have a go at George who I rate a lot and still has plenty of credit locked away.

But jdl is right, it was another mediocre effort.

Worse still its just so boring.

Most of the players seem to have plenty of talent (a couple of obvious exceptions) but put them together and they look like it's the first time they have met.

Please George sort it out. This isn't good enough.

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Sept 29, 2024 9:06:40 GMT stonepaperscissors said:

On reflection, my fear now is that CCTV caught me walking round in an 'anticlockwise direction'. Not sure I will get away with returning to Herne Bay.

Your details have been passed to Herne Bay police for consideration

[Dickie]

In fairness I can remember previous times not so long ago when watching Stones was a turgid experience. Happened with the Wheeler Dealer, Hak and even Jay towards 'the end'.
The difference was we were struggling in the National League at the time, not the NLS.
Following the Stones at present is not much fun other than spending time with yer mates.
Pre match banter still goes on but once the football starts, enthusiasm just seems to wane.
The team is too predictable and doesn't exactly get the pulse racing.
Attacking options don't look great and the style of play seems defensively biased.
Yawn !
Only just summoned up the motivation to draft this post, it's just seeping away a bit.

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Just seen the highlights. The challenge on Corne looked a penalty to me and the one on Blair looked a good yard inside the box. Two penalties would have put a more realistic slant on the score.

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Sept 29, 2024 17:40:24 GMT daveu said:

Just seen the highlights. The challenge on Corne looked a penalty to me and the one on Blair looked a good yard inside the box. Two penalties would have put a more realistic slant on the score.

Surprised there are highlights, as I couldn't see STV anywhere! I didn't have a good enough sight of the Corne pen, but the Blair one was right in front of us - and definitely inside the box. That ref was dodgy throughout the game, I was hoping for better than that for an FA Cup game.

[Dan]

On the TV at least the Corne foul was 100% a penalty. Since when having your legs kicked from under you and being 'wiped out' not count as a foul ?
The Blair effort started as a foul on the edge of the box but he was still bring fouled at least a metre inside the box.
Another poor decision by the ref.

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We have a lot of players who are individually very good but have yet to provide the finish. The difference between a hypodermic needle and a blunt pencil. Corne definitively improved the team, a midfielder who often appeared in the box at the right time. We still need a tall striker. There are enough good players to provide good crosses but no one to take advantage of them. Blair works hard but is not a centre forward, he needs someone to feed off. The team will not have the right balance until George solves that position. It is no coincidence that most of our goals have come from set pieces when our tall players have been able to come forward.

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Sept 29, 2024 20:55:11 GMT pigbag said:

We have a lot of players who are individually very good but have yet to provide the finish. The difference between a hypodermic needle and a blunt pencil. Corne definitively improved the team, a midfielder who often appeared in the box at the right time. We still need a tall striker. There are enough good players to provide good crosses but no one to take advantage of them. Blair works hard but is not a centre forward, he needs someone to feed off. The team will not have the right balance until George solves that position. It is no coincidence that most of our goals have come from set pieces when our tall players have been able to come forward.

I agree with most of that. When we signed Ludovica I was hopeful that he might be the type of player Blair could feed off but it would appear not. Maybe desperation but why not throw Greenidge or Eweka up front( not just for set pieces) for a short period during games? Might sound a bit crazy but managers in the past used to do this sort of thing, I'm sure Jay used Steve Watt up front on more than one occasion?

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Sept 29, 2024 21:25:36 GMT royalstone said:

Sept 29, 2024 20:55:11 GMT pigbag said:

We have a lot of players who are individually very good but have yet to provide the finish. The difference between a hypodermic needle and a blunt pencil. Corne definitively improved the team, a midfielder who often appeared in the box at the right time. We still need a tall striker. There are enough good players to provide good crosses but no one to take advantage of them. Blair works hard but is not a centre forward, he needs someone to feed off. The team will not have the right balance until George solves that position. It is no coincidence that most of our goals have come from set pieces when our tall players have been able to come forward.

I agree with most of that. When we signed Ludovica I was hopeful that he might be the type of player Blair could feed off but it would appear not. Maybe desperation but why not throw Greenidge or Eweka up front( not just for set pieces) for a short period during games? Might sound a bit crazy but managers in the past used to do this sort of thing, I'm sure Jay used Steve Watt up front on more than one occasion?

I saw Steve Watt today

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Sept 29, 2024 21:36:44 GMT pwoodstone said:

Sept 29, 2024 21:25:36 GMT royalstone said:

I agree with most of that. When we signed Ludovica I was hopeful that he might be the type of player Blair could feed off but it would appear not. Maybe desperation but why not throw Greenidge or Eweka up front( not just for set pieces) for a short period during games? Might sound a bit crazy but managers in the past used to do this sort of thing, I'm sure Jay used Steve Watt up front on more than one occasion?

I saw Steve Watt today

Has he still got his boots? 🤣🤣

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Sept 29, 2024 21:25:36 GMT royalstone said:

Sept 29, 2024 20:55:11 GMT pigbag said:

We have a lot of players who are individually very good but have yet to provide the finish. The difference between a hypodermic needle and a blunt pencil. Corne definitively improved the team, a midfielder who often appeared in the box at the right time. We still need a tall striker. There are enough good players to provide good crosses but no one to take advantage of them. Blair works hard but is not a centre forward, he needs someone to feed off. The team will not have the right balance until George solves that position. It is no coincidence that most of our goals have come from set pieces when our tall players have been able to come forward.

I agree with most of that. When we signed Ludovica I was hopeful that he might be the type of player Blair could feed off but it would appear not. Maybe desperation but why not throw Greenidge or Eweka up front( not just for set pieces) for a short period during games? Might sound a bit crazy but managers in the past used to do this sort of thing, I'm sure Jay used Steve Watt up front on more than one occasion?

That's exactly what George appeared to be doing at HB - Greenidge and Eweka seemed to be constantly up the front. I'm not sure Greenidge did much to help, but I've always thought Eweka is much more than a defender and he looked quite dangerous at time. But the problem is that the wing-backs had to fall back to cover the missing defenders, in case of an HB attack, so we lost the usual service down the wing. Blair was constantly having to drop back to pick up the ball, fight to hold on to it, and then try to cross it - to no one. Whereas, he should have been the one in the area, getting balls fed in from the wings.