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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 20, 2021 17:50:54 GMT
The NF and BNP were utterly defeated by the electorate, and some of us who literally fought them. They are minuscule groups with no influence on anything. Like it or not, many people are repulsed by BLM, including the Premier League who dropped them very early on. You’re clutching at straws. It’s also no coincidence that BLM’s biggest fans on this forum are the posters least tolerant of different opinions. So call me a complete f**king c**t again. It’s all you’ve got. www.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/10/premier-league-drop-black-lives-matter-badge-from-shirts-for-own-campaignWould you personally tell a kneeling footballer you were repulsed by him taking a knee, to his face? I doubt you believe that.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 20, 2021 16:23:42 GMT
You said BLM had done as much damage to race relations as the National Front and the BNP. If you have any idea what these organisations are and what they do, and if you still believe that, there's no point in debating you.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 20, 2021 7:28:54 GMT
Ironically enough I agree with you on most things and tell you to f**k off all time. Before BLM, booing black players was almost eradicated. I can’t remember the last time i heard it. Now it happens every weekend in protest against a political gesture many fans hate. That is not progress, and I’m perfectly entitled to hold that view and say so. Imagine publicly turning on an elderly friend for holding a slightly different view. At least Judas got thirty pieces of silver. All you got was a few likes and clicks on a blog almost nobody reads. With your cyber-Tourette’s trying to be down with the kids. It’s pathetic. I told him I thought that view was beneath him precisely because I know he's a better man than someone who'd write something like this. The idea that the abuse of black players was eradicated is 1) bullshit and 2) so far beneath contempt that I'll wear your insult as a badge of honour.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 19, 2021 22:44:25 GMT
And as I said before, I remember you at Greenwich when you stood up for a sub who was being abused by a thug and that's why I said that view was beneath you. In the last week we had someone on here saying that BLM is as bad as the NF and the BNP! Now he has the right to say that because that's how freedom of speech works but equally I have the right (and frankly the duty) to say it's bullshit. That person was not me and I would still stand in court and back any black player abused racially. And if you remember the player at Greenwich, whose name I sadly dont remember, refused my offer stating there was no point and besides I am used to it. This does not make it right but he realized that it would change nothing. You're right he did say that. But you stood by him and that meant something.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 19, 2021 22:42:34 GMT
And as I said before, I remember you at Greenwich when you stood up for a sub who was being abused by a thug and that's why I said that view was beneath you. In the last week we had someone on here saying that BLM is as bad as the NF and the BNP! Now he has the right to say that because that's how freedom of speech works but equally I have the right (and frankly the duty) to say it's bullshit. Barney's post equating people complaining about racism with racist thugs was a low point. Ironically enough I agree with you on most things and tell you to f**k off all time.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 19, 2021 22:23:54 GMT
That's unfair Sword. I agree to differ with people all the time on all sorts of issues. But when you say e.g. players should grow thick skins when confronted with racism I have a right to protest. Indeed you do,but it does not make me wrong . And as I said before, I remember you at Greenwich when you stood up for a sub who was being abused by a thug and that's why I said that view was beneath you. In the last week we had someone on here saying that BLM is as bad as the NF and the BNP! Now he has the right to say that because that's how freedom of speech works but equally I have the right (and frankly the duty) to say it's bullshit.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 19, 2021 22:02:29 GMT
I was upset that Fred Atkins,a man whom I respect has now become a man who does not respect other peoples views be they right or wrong. I know I can be difficult at times but when someone I considered a friend turns against me so vehemently then I have to consider the ramifications of their act. I will be around but am so saddened by the way this board is going downhill,its just no fun anymore. Thanks for your support, I appreciate it. That's unfair Sword. I agree to differ with people all the time on all sorts of issues. But when you say e.g. players should grow thick skins when confronted with racism I have a right to protest.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 16, 2021 12:59:14 GMT
Didn't they lay it themselves and cock it up completely, so that it had to be re-laid? Probably the problem is not the way the grass was laid, but the quality of the surface underneath, and I suspect they didn’t dig that up and redo it. Expensive things, 3G pitches – can’t be done on the cheap. They did indeed do it on the cheap and totally fucked it up. Subsequently relaid at great expense but seemingly no a lot better by all accounts. Out of curiosity, was that before or after they appointed their new DoF?
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 14, 2021 17:47:23 GMT
Aaaaaaaaaanyway. The report is still up.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 13, 2021 18:57:35 GMT
All right then. Do you agree with that claim? No I don't agree with that claim but I really can't say it is something I think about on a daily basis. Well as I genuinely didn't come on here looking for a ruck I'm glad we can agree on something. And FWIW I'd be a shit politician.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 13, 2021 18:47:26 GMT
If you agree with the claim that BLM are as bad as the NF then you're sick in the head. Why are you saying IF now? You have constantly drawn your own conclusions to everything I have said to this point and quoted things I have never said. What is wrong with you? All right then. Do you agree with that claim?
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 13, 2021 17:56:25 GMT
What the f**k is wrong with you? Which you really mean is why don't you agree with everything I say. If you agree with the claim that BLM are as bad as the NF then you're sick in the head.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 13, 2021 14:15:15 GMT
Just to pick up on one point. Is calling a black guy with dreads, Bob Marley any different to calling a white guy with long hair, Rick Parfitt or Ozzy Osbourne, or any of the other long haired white men I've been called over the years. Depends if the police ever arrested you because you look a bit like Rick Parfitt I suppose.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 13, 2021 8:26:40 GMT
Fair point Barney, although people that abuse those who do take the knee, are not welcome imo. It's not a fair point in any way. It's disgusting to compare an anti-racism organisation to the NF.
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Sept 13, 2021 8:01:36 GMT
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