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Post by nws on May 2, 2022 6:59:51 GMT
I’ve been wondering about how to survive and prosper in the National League this time around. Bromley and Sutton are two similar sized clubs who used to live with us at a lower level and could be role models. What did they do differently? Last time we clung to a part time structure too long and switched too late. Is it about behind the scenes infrastructure and fitness training that costs money? This time there are even more big ex league teams than ever, including some major subsidising of wages. Our ground capacity was only 3000, but may still need future consideration. Nobody imagines we are going to take this league by storm, but it would be nice not to be perennial strugglers. It’s also time for the local business community to step forward. Some ideas Sutton had a great cup run. Played Arsenal and Leeds. Financed them for a few years Now our season is done early get any new players and deals sorted early. A top rated striker is a must early on which most people have been craving for for years. Take some pressure of Jack if he stays. Er... We had Jay May... I just don't think you understand
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Post by sword65 on May 2, 2022 7:44:27 GMT
I’ve been wondering about how to survive and prosper in the National League this time around. Bromley and Sutton are two similar sized clubs who used to live with us at a lower level and could be role models. What did they do differently? Last time we clung to a part time structure too long and switched too late. Is it about behind the scenes infrastructure and fitness training that costs money? This time there are even more big ex league teams than ever, including some major subsidising of wages. Our ground capacity was only 3000, but may still need future consideration. Nobody imagines we are going to take this league by storm, but it would be nice not to be perennial strugglers. It’s also time for the local business community to step forward. Rumours reaching swordy towers that the club are in talks with 6 investors with the view to investing around £500,000 each. I have no detais so don't ask but the info received was from one of the 6 parties involved. I will not at this time divulge his name.
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Post by daveu on May 2, 2022 7:46:16 GMT
I’ve been wondering about how to survive and prosper in the National League this time around. Bromley and Sutton are two similar sized clubs who used to live with us at a lower level and could be role models. What did they do differently? Last time we clung to a part time structure too long and switched too late. Is it about behind the scenes infrastructure and fitness training that costs money? This time there are even more big ex league teams than ever, including some major subsidising of wages. Our ground capacity was only 3000, but may still need future consideration. Nobody imagines we are going to take this league by storm, but it would be nice not to be perennial strugglers. It’s also time for the local business community to step forward. Rumours reaching swordy towers that the club are in talks with 6 investors with the view to investing around £500,000 each. I have no detais so don't ask but the info received was from one of the 6 parties involved. I will not at this time divulge his name. Yeah I heard that as well. Not clear though whether it was additional investment or simply buying Oliver and Terry's existing shares.
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Post by Harry on May 2, 2022 7:49:13 GMT
I had also heard that Oliver and Terry are looking to sell their shares.
So I'm guessing this may be a possible buy out rather than additional investment, disappointingly.
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Post by daveu on May 2, 2022 7:53:44 GMT
I had also heard that Oliver and Terry are looking to sell their shares. So I'm guessing this may be a possible buy out rather than additional investment, disappointingly. Although you'd think that anyone willing to buy them out must see the potential to attract additional investment and have a plan to take the club to the next level.
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Post by Harry on May 2, 2022 8:02:29 GMT
Hopefully !
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Post by 61666 on May 2, 2022 8:03:59 GMT
Am sure they will be plenty of discussion on this. Immediate thoughts are: 1. The likely need for segregation, raising the spectre of a divided Genco, which I really don't like. 2. Higher running costs through increased wage bill, stewarding and so on, though hopefully our average gate won't be far off 3000, as long as we do ok. At least we don't have to spend big on the ground this time, so hopefully that can be parked in favour of making sure both the squad and the support staff are well equipped to compete. Hakan has built a squad that is fit, plays a high tempo and is certainly not one dimensional. We have some big, tall players, but our previous experience showed they were all like that in the NLP. At the moment, would back our current style to do ok, hopefully comfortable mid table, but a few signings will be important to ensure a squad that can compete all season - plus some of our players are into their 30s now, which may be an issue. Top of my wish list now would be mid table and a couple of good cup runs. Not far off the start of this season in fact and now look what's happened!
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Post by Stonethecrow on May 2, 2022 8:05:49 GMT
But we neither want or need investors who want to make money out of the club.
In truth very few investors achieve that anyhow, so we must hope it it for the love of the game and thrill of the chase that motivates anybody.
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Post by daveu on May 2, 2022 8:09:55 GMT
But we neither want or need investors who want to make money out of the club. In truth very few investors achieve that anyhow, so we must hope it it for the love of the game and thrill of the chase that motivates anybody. That's true, but I can't see anyone wanting to invest to simply see the club stand still. If the rumours actually come to anything surely it will be because the investors have a vision to move the club forward.
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Post by Harry on May 2, 2022 9:46:43 GMT
Whatever, we know its a big step, but most of us agree that this team is stronger than Jay's team that last got promoted. Some further investment into the club should only be a plussage to strengthen. But what of the team ? All of our first choice x1 should be offered new contracts imo (plus a couple more). But it is quite likely that we will lose 2 or 3 to other clubs who can offer more dosh. No guarantees about Luque either and how bad his injury will impact. So I reckon it is very likely that Hak will need to recruit around 5 new players right across the park to consolidate a really decent National League squad. He did brilliantly this season, may it long continue.
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Post by Nick on May 2, 2022 10:05:32 GMT
Has Oliver has sold his French Rugby Club. Can anyone confirm ? If correct, then it would be great if Oliver was able to commit to Stones going forward, which hopefully would be the case. My impression is that any new investment could strengthen the club in a positive way. We know of blueprints for the riverside stand and new 'Genco' at the town end. New investment could bring this dream closer to a reality. Improved infrastructure will increase revenue streams which again could be directed towards improving the playing budget. All to play for but stranger things have happened. The team's promotion can only have boosted the chances of additional investment. We live in interesting times.
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Post by Andy on May 2, 2022 10:10:39 GMT
I had also heard that Oliver and Terry are looking to sell their shares. So I'm guessing this may be a possible buy out rather than additional investment, disappointingly. All rumour, speculation and hot air. What you say may be half true, or even less.
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Post by jdl on May 2, 2022 11:39:07 GMT
This was never an 'investment' for either of them, the best they could hope for is their money back one day. They did this because they saw the potential in the club (and fans) and because they wanted to bring the club back to town and make a success of it.
After all the early success, the shock of the NL, the awful Clown times, and now this wonderful season, does anyone seriously think they want to walk away from it all? These are just rumours and tittle tattle.
There may well be investors interested (they have, after all, been looking for people to put money into the club for the best part of ten years) and that will mean selling shares in the club. But, unless there are business/family/health reasons we are unaware of, I can't see Oliver or Terry walking away from the club.
Ask yourself, if you were in the same position, if you had made such a huge gamble 10 years ago, and then been through the ride we've had since - would you want to walk away?
It's going to be a long, f**king mental, summer!
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Post by daveu on May 2, 2022 11:54:31 GMT
This was never an 'investment' for either of them, the best they could hope for is their money back one day. They did this because they saw the potential in the club (and fans) and because they wanted to bring the club back to town and make a success of it. After all the early success, the shock of the NL, the awful Clown times, and now this wonderful season, does anyone seriously think they want to walk away from it all? These are just rumours and tittle tattle. There may well be investors interested (they have, after all, been looking for people to put money into the club for the best part of ten years) and that will mean selling shares in the club. But, unless there are business/family/health reasons we are unaware of, I can't see Oliver or Terry walking away from the club. Ask yourself, if you were in the same position, if you had made such a huge gamble 10 years ago, and then been through the ride we've had since - would you want to walk away? It's going to be a long, f**king mental, summer! The rumour I heard was that Terry wants to move to Spain.
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Post by jdl on May 2, 2022 12:19:18 GMT
This was never an 'investment' for either of them, the best they could hope for is their money back one day. They did this because they saw the potential in the club (and fans) and because they wanted to bring the club back to town and make a success of it. After all the early success, the shock of the NL, the awful Clown times, and now this wonderful season, does anyone seriously think they want to walk away from it all? These are just rumours and tittle tattle. There may well be investors interested (they have, after all, been looking for people to put money into the club for the best part of ten years) and that will mean selling shares in the club. But, unless there are business/family/health reasons we are unaware of, I can't see Oliver or Terry walking away from the club. Ask yourself, if you were in the same position, if you had made such a huge gamble 10 years ago, and then been through the ride we've had since - would you want to walk away? It's going to be a long, f**king mental, summer! The rumour I heard was that Terry wants to move to Spain. I could understand something like that, he's not exactly a spring chicken. But I can't see Oliver wanting to give it all up - unless he's got serious business problems, or something like that. I think Oliver was the main investor as well? Maybe, it's just going to be one of those 'moments' where everything happens - back in the NL, the start of a new chapter, Terry retiring, maybe even Bill retiring! (He is 80 this year, after all.) But hopefully we'll still have Oliver at the helm, whatever happens.
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