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Post by jdl on Dec 10, 2020 21:22:58 GMT
Terminal despair has set in? They are probably only just coming to the realisation that the NL isn't going to reverse anything, that crowds are not coming back to JWW, that the season is probably going to go down the toilet, and all that money they have 'invested' might just as well have been pissed up the wall.
By the by, I'm sure I read somewhere that the chairman of the NL had resigned and was leaving earlier than expected. But no one has commented on this, so maybe it was just a drug-addled dream.
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Post by jdl on Dec 10, 2020 21:23:33 GMT
PS - I think it's only thee and me on this bloody forum tonight!
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Post by sword65 on Dec 10, 2020 21:45:06 GMT
Terminal despair has set in? They are probably only just coming to the realisation that the NL isn't going to reverse anything, that crowds are not coming back to JWW, that the season is probably going to go down the toilet, and all that money they have 'invested' might just as well have been pissed up the wall. By the by, I'm sure I read somewhere that the chairman of the NL had resigned and was leaving earlier than expected. But no one has commented on this, so maybe it was just a drug-addled dream. I think it was the deputy chairman who left so no-one of real importance.
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Post by aristotle38 on Dec 11, 2020 5:44:11 GMT
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Post by steveh21 on Dec 13, 2020 8:42:52 GMT
What as happened re the independent review? It's all gone very quiet. Has big Jim P managed to lift a v large carpet to sweep these possibly dodgy dealings under???
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Post by Rob on Dec 13, 2020 10:10:23 GMT
Whether or not you believe in this review process, depends on whether you think Jim is an honest, fair minded and genuine philanthropist.
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Post by swampy on Dec 13, 2020 10:36:32 GMT
Terminal despair has set in? They are probably only just coming to the realisation that the NL isn't going to reverse anything, that crowds are not coming back to JWW, that the season is probably going to go down the toilet, and all that money they have 'invested' might just as well have been pissed up the wall. By the by, I'm sure I read somewhere that the chairman of the NL had resigned and was leaving earlier than expected. But no one has commented on this, so maybe it was just a drug-addled dream.
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Post by Nick on Dec 13, 2020 10:40:01 GMT
GREAT BLOG BY OLIVER ASH PART OF WHICH IS ON THIS SUBJECT
For my small part I have been fighting a battle to get the National League funding distribution decision overturned. For those who aren’t aware of the detail here it is: back in October the NL Board decided on a distribution of Government funding, which had been generously provided from Lottery funds, to compensate our clubs’ lost gate receipts when playing behind closed doors. Some fine lobbying work from the NL and the FA deserves mention here.
Although such a distribution of funds to individual clubs should not have been rocket science, the Board directors contrived to ignore their Executive’s advice and chose to remunerate clubs essentially based on which division they were in, ignoring the wide variations in gates. As a result some clubs received more than five times what other clubs received, when measured in terms of absent supporters. Some clubs have received more than their season’s normal turnover within a three month period.
More worryingly clubs such as Dulwich Hamlet, Hereford, Chester and ourselves received significantly less than our gate receipt losses. We only agreed to start the season on the basis these losses would be compensated, something the National League assured us would happen. It didn’t. We are now hurting badly and indeed some clubs may not be able to carry on unless the funding scheme is revised urgently.
Together with other like-minded clubs, such as those named above, plus Fylde, Telford, Yeovil, Chesterfield and Notts County amongst others, we asked some simple but urgent questions of the Board. Why did you choose this distribution, ignoring clear Government stipulations? Why did you ignore the NL Executive’s proposed scheme, which was to make an identical base payment to all clubs and then divide the balance according to two years’ average attendances? Why did you vote on the decision, twice, when it seems clear to most objective eyes that there was a massive conflict of interest, such as foreseen by Par. 23 of the League Articles of Association?
We have never had satisfactory answers to these questions. In desperation at our legitimate requests being ignored we called for an independent review of the decision. Thankfully this was agreed by the League and we are now in the middle of this process. The Review Panel, made up of distinguished members from diverse walks of sporting and general life, have met once to hear clubs’ views and are due to meet again for the final time on Monday 14th December.
We are confident they will take into account our arguments demonstrating that the NL Board distribution decision was wrong. If so they will then be able to find a new system to be implemented urgently. This should take into account an adjustment of the £10 million funding over the autumn three month period and also factor in that some clubs will be enjoying actual gate receipts during December. All we have ever asked for here is respect of truth and fairness and proper governance by our league management. We will not rest till we are satisfied that a fair solution has indeed been adopted.
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Post by sword65 on Dec 13, 2020 11:00:34 GMT
So we will know tomorrow, that could he good news, of course they could decide it was fair and f**k us right up for the rest of the season. Hopefully good sense prevails but the way 2020 has gone so far my £5 will be staying in my pocket on this one.
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Post by headstone on Dec 13, 2020 11:17:36 GMT
Oliver: "We are confident they will take into account our arguments...". Unfortunately, Oliver was also confident that the EFL would see the benefit of 3G pitches, so I suspect he may be disappointed again.
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Post by sword65 on Dec 17, 2020 13:38:47 GMT
Well Monday has been and gone and still no outcome released to the clubs involved. This was the last meeting,allegedly,so a decision has been made, it is now Thursday how long does a decision take to communicate to us all? We have been shafted once ,why do I get this feeling that we are to be shafted for a 2nd time.
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Post by stainese on Dec 17, 2020 15:48:32 GMT
Well Monday has been and gone and still no outcome released to the clubs involved. This was the last meeting,allegedly,so a decision has been made, it is now Thursday how long does a decision take to communicate to us all? We have been shafted once ,why do I get this feeling that we are to be shafted for a 2nd time. Yes But the statement has to be worded into into a way to justify us getting nowt and also belittles us (& the others) for asking
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Post by Nick on Dec 17, 2020 16:44:28 GMT
Its really pathetic.
Why do we all get the impression of dodgy dealing ?
It all seems to be so murky, funny handshakes and smoke and mirrors.
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Post by dave41212 on Dec 19, 2020 11:23:20 GMT
Oliver on Twitter says that the National League are refusing to publish the report.
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Post by Stonethecrow on Dec 19, 2020 12:12:01 GMT
It's all very strange. Supposedly an independent review that would either confirm or rubbish the National League's distribution of the lottery funding. You would gave thought that they would want to share and publicise a report that praises the integrity and fairness of the National League leadership. I had no idea that Jim Parmenter was such a shy and retiring sort of bloke.
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