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Post by soulstone on Mar 23, 2019 19:44:11 GMT
Not sure the ref was THAT poor,, but the lino on the main stand was blind, missing 2 blatant balls out of play, one which led to a goal chance for you. Scrappy, scruffy game, but we will take that anytime. Our 1st goal was sublime, how anyone can call it soft is just plain dull in the head. Watch it on the video replay and just enjoy the rare bit of quality in the game, apart from some stunning saves from Ashmore. HE IS a bit marmite , but he is a remarkably fine shot stopper, probably the best in the league. If he improved his distribution he would be several leagues higher. Unlike a few, I shall miss the derbies, good atmosphere and good revenue. Wasn't too fussed about being bombarded by filled water bottles either, and the stewards stood and laughed. That wasn't water it was piss.
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Post by soulstone on Mar 23, 2019 19:49:02 GMT
I actually think we played quite well and deserved a point at least but can't understand why Walton and Cassidy were back in the side. Good finishing by Fleet but with a monthly wage bill of £168,000 they ought to be good.
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Post by jakeyboi on Mar 23, 2019 19:50:27 GMT
We seem to blame the officials week after week sooner or later it has to stop, we huffed an puffed again and ended up with the same as every week which is sweet FA. Players are starting to try but so obvious we lack the basic skills to succeed in this league. Stewards done themselves no favours at the game, showing one rule for away fans an one rule for home fans. Plus they chucked out our own drummer.
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Post by stonelacro on Mar 23, 2019 19:50:33 GMT
As per the stuff we sell in our bar!
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Post by stonelacro on Mar 23, 2019 20:01:30 GMT
Didn't think we lacked effort today, but with their weakened side out and an important play off match for them coming Tuesday, I thought they cruised through the game really! They always seemed to be in second gear to me and happy for us to throw players forward and catch us on the break! They had done their homework on us I'm afraid, playing well within themselves, never pushed, just sitting back letting us play into their hands! We gave plenty of effort, little quality and a lot of huff and puff!
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Post by hammerstone on Mar 23, 2019 20:06:22 GMT
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Post by roystyboy on Mar 23, 2019 20:24:56 GMT
Sorry to say wrong choice of keeper today may have cost us.Lewington is far more talkative to the back four at all times.Dion has issues with distribution,not coming for crosses and taking his time even when we are losing.Credit to them for their support today.As for the stewarding seemed abit double standards today with one rule for one and another for the other.
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Post by pedant on Mar 23, 2019 20:28:25 GMT
So why were Gravesend customers allowed to stand on the yellow hatched area and Stones fans not?? It is either safe or unsafe...it cannot be unsafe behind one side of the goal only. Re the game..we played ok. Huffed and puffed but like most games the opposition just had more quality. Because our segregated area in the stand was dangerously overcrowded, to the extent the police and the stewards could have reasonably got into serious trouble with the FA and the HSE if things got worse. There are capacities put in place for a good reason, I would be very surprised if the stand wasn't overcrowded. GENCO stand holds, I believe, just under 1800. There were 622 supporters in the 'away' end. The stand is divided into 3 sections by two, apparently evenly spaced, yellow hatched gangways.
The dividing 'tarpaulin' was placed with a full 1/3 block and some space of the middle block accessible to the away section.
My conclusion? A little over 1/3 of the GENCO stand was allocated to the away supporters. The away supporters numbered a little over 1/3 of the official capacity of that stand. Standing there would have been 'cosy' but not "dangerously overcrowded". So I think handyandy you need to be 'very surprised'.
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Post by pedant on Mar 23, 2019 20:32:43 GMT
Sorry to say wrong choice of keeper today may have cost us.Lewington is far more talkative to the back four at all times.Dion has issues with distribution,not coming for crosses and taking his time even when we are losing.Credit to them for their support today.As for the stewarding seemed abit double standards today with one rule for one and another for the other. Possibly, but their first goal was not a goalkeeping error. One goal for them was enough for a win. Even if the ref had allocated a reasonable amount of time to be added on for the blatant timewasting we wouldn't have scored.
The defensive / goalkeeping cock-up for their second whilst embarrassing was irrelevant to the outcome of the match.
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Post by roystyboy on Mar 23, 2019 20:36:38 GMT
Sorry to say wrong choice of keeper today may have cost us.Lewington is far more talkative to the back four at all times.Dion has issues with distribution,not coming for crosses and taking his time even when we are losing.Credit to them for their support today.As for the stewarding seemed abit double standards today with one rule for one and another for the other. Possibly, but their first goal was not a goalkeeping error. One goal for them was enough for a win. Even if the ref had allocated a reasonable amount of time to be added on for the blatant timewasting we wouldn't have scored.
The defensive / goalkeeping cock-up for their second whilst embarrassing was irrelevant to the outcome of the match.
There was no communication between keeper and defence and he had a perfect view of the situation sorry
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Post by HempsteadGaz on Mar 23, 2019 20:37:45 GMT
Because our segregated area in the stand was dangerously overcrowded, to the extent the police and the stewards could have reasonably got into serious trouble with the FA and the HSE if things got worse. There are capacities put in place for a good reason, I would be very surprised if the stand wasn't overcrowded. GENCO stand holds, I believe, just under 1800. There were 622 supporters in the 'away' end. The stand is divided into 3 sections by two, apparently evenly spaced, yellow hatched gangways.
The dividing 'tarpaulin' was placed with a full 1/3 block and some space of the middle block accessible to the away section.
My conclusion? A little over 1/3 of the GENCO stand was allocated to the away supporters. The away supporters numbered a little over 1/3 of the official capacity of that stand. Standing there would have been 'cosy' but not "dangerously overcrowded". So I think handyandy you need to be 'very surprised'.
Except we apparently had around 730 paying fans crammed in, which is why some were moved to the front.
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Post by gromley on Mar 23, 2019 20:59:03 GMT
Not sure why differing readings on a game have to so often result in personal insults.
For me I'm probably nearer to Dave's view - it was a game where a one goal margin in either direction would be about right.
On this day though (as so many others) the difference came down to little things in either 'final third'.
I've no idea what happened for the second goal, but for the first - I half agree with HandyAndy that it was a good move (sublime might be stretching it) but as it was happening I thought that both Wishart and then WDH could have done better.
At the other end whilst Ashmore made some important saves, I don't think there were any contenders for goal of the season there; to be fair I think Ashmore would have been disappointed to have let any one of those in.
Overall though the ball spent too much time in the air for my liking and there were a number of occasions where our players, not under pressure, deferred the opportunity to bring the ball under control instead to continue the head tennis. Fear of being caught in possession I think - I'm not sure if that was a result of instructions or just general lack of confidence.
Probably the latter as one person I thought did show some composure on the ball and put in some thoughtful passes (not all of which came off) was Simon Walton. Taylor I also thought looked quite tidy.
Amaluzor and Turgott both looked quite a handful and as others have said Powell looked useful.
In fact I can't think of anyone that had a bad game and there were definite signs of coming together as a team.
So I would actually consider that performance quite encouraging - except of course that "progress" doesn't matter one jot - except where players will be with us next season. I wonder how may of today's squad are likely to be on the roster come July? On today's showing I wouldn't necessarily be looking to kick anyone into touch - so how many of them do we think we'll see next year?
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Post by butlerisalegend on Mar 23, 2019 21:35:20 GMT
Not sure why differing readings on a game have to so often result in personal insults. For me I'm probably nearer to Dave's view - it was a game where a one goal margin in either direction would be about right.
On this day though (as so many others) the difference came down to little things in either 'final third'. I've no idea what happened for the second goal, but for the first - I half agree with HandyAndy that it was a good move (sublime might be stretching it) but as it was happening I thought that both Wishart and then WDH could have done better. At the other end whilst Ashmore made some important saves, I don't think there were any contenders for goal of the season there; to be fair I think Ashmore would have been disappointed to have let any one of those in. Overall though the ball spent too much time in the air for my liking and there were a number of occasions where our players, not under pressure, deferred the opportunity to bring the ball under control instead to continue the head tennis. Fear of being caught in possession I think - I'm not sure if that was a result of instructions or just general lack of confidence. Probably the latter as one person I thought did show some composure on the ball and put in some thoughtful passes (not all of which came off) was Simon Walton. Taylor I also thought looked quite tidy. Amaluzor and Turgott both looked quite a handful and as others have said Powell looked useful. In fact I can't think of anyone that had a bad game and there were definite signs of coming together as a team.
So I would actually consider that performance quite encouraging - except of course that "progress" doesn't matter one jot - except where players will be with us next season. I wonder how may of today's squad are likely to be on the roster come July? On today's showing I wouldn't necessarily be looking to kick anyone into touch - so how many of them do we think we'll see next year? John Still has also said recently that it is coming together or it is sinking in or the boys are getting our methods etc but the point is this is irrelevant if we are left with only 2 or 3 of these players!!
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Post by soulstone on Mar 23, 2019 21:43:16 GMT
GENCO stand holds, I believe, just under 1800. There were 622 supporters in the 'away' end. The stand is divided into 3 sections by two, apparently evenly spaced, yellow hatched gangways.
The dividing 'tarpaulin' was placed with a full 1/3 block and some space of the middle block accessible to the away section.
My conclusion? A little over 1/3 of the GENCO stand was allocated to the away supporters. The away supporters numbered a little over 1/3 of the official capacity of that stand. Standing there would have been 'cosy' but not "dangerously overcrowded". So I think handyandy you need to be 'very surprised'.
Except we apparently had around 730 paying fans crammed in, which is why some were moved to the front. Nope you had 622
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Post by HempsteadGaz on Mar 23, 2019 21:50:14 GMT
Officially. One of your stewards admitted to saying 709. A good number paid a tenner to get in the side gate at 2.55 when the main gate couldn't cope with the queue.
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