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Post by daveu on Jan 20, 2018 22:10:15 GMT
Everyone blaming Worgs for their second, but we shouldn't overlook Seth's part in it. He kept the ball in when it was running out for a throw in TO US, and compounded the error by playing an awful ball to Worgs. So they both have to take a share of the blame. Apart from gifting them three goals I thought we played some lovely football, dominated possession and should've won comfortably. Not sure if that says more about them than us. Also was pleasing to see we carried on trying to play football and not panic and go long when we went behind. I think it says a lot that even in defeat most of us stayed behind to applaud the players off at the end. I think the overall performance showed a lot of promise for the future and I'm actually quite optimistic that we can get out of this rut and start putting a few results together.
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Post by 61666 on Jan 20, 2018 22:16:27 GMT
As has been suggested already, in our league it is not possible to have a keeper just warming the bench unless you have a lot of spare cash floating around, while a decent keeper wouldn't be happy doing nothing anyway. I suspect Worgan is his own harshest critic, while I'll say again, he has to do far more 'sweeping' than many other keepers and this leads to problems. The defence and midfield need to work the ball themselves more instead of always giving it back to Worgan to start again. Sides in our league are not stupid and soon suss out a system.
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Post by overthehillstone on Jan 20, 2018 22:19:02 GMT
Wasn't there, so in a way glad to hear we played ok. Really concerned about refereeing though, it really is becoming a conspiracy and suspect the only reason the ref was 'ok' on Tuesday was anyone at our usual inept standard could have started a riot. Not sure about the criticism of Worgan. None of the reports seem to level much blame on him, but one reason he is under pressure at the moment is he gets many more back passes than other teams give their keeper. We use him as a sweeper, even though it is obvious he rarely clears very far into the other half. In a way, an accident waiting to happen and while that doesn't excuse what has been happening, we could be playing the ball out differently instead of putting him under pressure so often. it was not a case of another back pass to him Seth was being pressured on the touch line, after he passed the ball to Worgan their striker went to pressure Worgan, all Worgan had to do was tap the ball back to Seth who then had room and time to clear it. Instead Worgan hit the ball at the striker who had an empty net to aim at..
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Post by madeinstone70 on Jan 20, 2018 22:21:03 GMT
Everyone blaming Worgs for their second, but we shouldn't overlook Seth's part in it. He kept the ball in when it was running out for a throw in TO US, and compounded the error by playing an awful ball to Worgs. So they both have to take a share of the blame. Apart from gifting them three goals I thought we played some lovely football, dominated possession and should've won comfortably. Not sure if that says more about them than us. Also was pleasing to see we carried on trying to play football and not panic and go long when we went behind. I think it says a lot that even in defeat most of us stayed behind to applaud the players off at the end. I think the overall performance showed a lot of promise for the future and I'm actually quite optimistic that we can get out of this rut and start putting a few results together. As long as we play some lovely football, we can give our opponents 3 goals each game, that's ok is it?? 😡😡😡
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Post by jdl on Jan 20, 2018 22:33:53 GMT
Everyone blaming Worgs for their second, but we shouldn't overlook Seth's part in it. He kept the ball in when it was running out for a throw in TO US, and compounded the error by playing an awful ball to Worgs. So they both have to take a share of the blame. Apart from gifting them three goals I thought we played some lovely football, dominated possession and should've won comfortably. Not sure if that says more about them than us. Also was pleasing to see we carried on trying to play football and not panic and go long when we went behind. I think it says a lot that even in defeat most of us stayed behind to applaud the players off at the end. I think the overall performance showed a lot of promise for the future and I'm actually quite optimistic that we can get out of this rut and start putting a few results together. We should not have won comfortably, because we gave three silly goals away and didn't manage to convert most of our possession. We should have lost. And we did. I love the pretty football as much as the next delusional fan, but, if we can't defend and can't score, where does it get us? (rhetorical)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 22:37:37 GMT
Everyone blaming Worgs for their second, but we shouldn't overlook Seth's part in it. He kept the ball in when it was running out for a throw in TO US, and compounded the error by playing an awful ball to Worgs. So they both have to take a share of the blame. Apart from gifting them three goals I thought we played some lovely football, dominated possession and should've won comfortably. Not sure if that says more about them than us. Also was pleasing to see we carried on trying to play football and not panic and go long when we went behind. I think it says a lot that even in defeat most of us stayed behind to applaud the players off at the end. I think the overall performance showed a lot of promise for the future and I'm actually quite optimistic that we can get out of this rut and start putting a few results together. As long as we play some lovely football, we can give our opponents 3 goals each game, that's ok is it?? 😡😡😡 When did Dave say its ok??? Of course its not but anyone at the game should be able to see Daves point that the performamce itself overall was good enough to inspire belief the results will come. We cant keep shipping gimmies like today but the lads put in a good shift work rate wise
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Post by dynastone on Jan 20, 2018 22:45:10 GMT
I heard Jay say in an interview a few weeks back that we need to sort out our home form and didn't want our season petering out.Need to start picking up some points quickly or the season could end with us fighting a battle at the wrong end of the table.
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Post by Ragstone cowboy on Jan 21, 2018 0:10:27 GMT
I’m sure worgs will hold his hands up for his mistake. Shit happens, especially when things aren’t going our way. Seth has also made mistakes but I’d stick by them both. Seth offers a threat going forward and worgan has not become shit overnight. We need to stamp out the mistakes, kill off games when we’re on top. The longer we have a one goal lead the more nervous we look. The best form of defence is always attack.
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Post by Benny on Jan 21, 2018 5:57:45 GMT
It's not Lee's fault we didn't take one of a number of chances to go three up and kill off the game. But I did see enough quality football to believe we are more than capable of doing so. It might be counter-intuitive to keep doing what isn't currently working, but we are adjusting to life without several key players and looking very good on the attack. The Gillingham game showed we don't have a big squad fighting for places, but do have a lot of quality. Until new players can be signed, let's get the most out of what we have.
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Post by Nick on Jan 21, 2018 7:56:41 GMT
So we carry on leaking goals at the back and it's ok ? Somehow it's now the fault of the forwards who should be scoring 3 or 4 goals every match to make-up for a defensive deficiency Someone is kidding themselves
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Post by rockstar on Jan 21, 2018 8:03:24 GMT
So we carry on leaking goals at the back and it's ok ? Somehow it's now the fault of the forwards who should be scoring 3 or 4 goals every match to make-up for a defensive deficiency Someone is kidding themselves Totally agree. Why should we need to score 3-4 every game because of our defensive and goalkeeping mistakes. Jay must be getting fed up saying the same things over and over again.
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Post by BringBackIggy on Jan 21, 2018 8:34:43 GMT
Does anyone ever notice that even when we’are on top, Jay never makes subs. Eg. When they brought their n.6 to play striker we should of brought Magnus or Prestage to tighten up at the back or if slimply to man mark and push him out the game entirely. Osei should of been hauled of at half time it was like playing with 10 men. Aside from that Paxman is getting better every game and as proved numerous times this season the Refering was absolutely atrocious.
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Post by steveh21 on Jan 21, 2018 8:37:22 GMT
Good point. Reece was warming up at the time while Jack Richards adds so much energy.. but Jay doesnt expect our defence to self-destruct at 2-1. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Post by pieman1982 on Jan 21, 2018 9:23:21 GMT
Jay appears to be a manager who studies teams and alters our shape and line up to counter act the opposition, however in his post match interview he stated he was worried about their set pieces due to the hieght in their team! Pretty sure Our entire back four was the shortest in the top 5 tears of English football yesterday! Had we not got The BEAST on the bench at 6’4” or so I would just say it was bad luck, or maybe a bad choice by Jay who never changes his defence if it’s not lost the previous game. I think we need a centre half and a midfielder on perminant deals and maybe a young league keeper on loan.
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Post by stonepaperscissors on Jan 21, 2018 10:03:26 GMT
I also really enjoyed the game and thought we played some great stuff at times. As has already been said, frustrating though when all that good play is regularly undermined by bad mistakes.
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