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Post by signalstone on Feb 27, 2013 19:25:07 GMT
Taking the second half at Herne Bay and last nights game into account I think we can see an improvement in confidence slowly coming back, and our passing game starting to return. The side looked better balanced from the start. Ref was a clown , how their no8 wasn't sent off first half I don't know. The biggest smiles on the night were from Tim and Ade when they came off. How refreshing it is to see two players with a fantastic attitude while being subbed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 19:39:14 GMT
Tonight the Gallagher Stadium witnessed some of the worst supporters ever to have visited us. As is my want, I like to stay at the Springfield end and in the second half they were just simply abusive with some of their comments - don't get me wrong, I love the banter and I love the chants..... but some of their comments to opposition supporters cannot be repeated on here and I would not want to anyway. They were not football related but simply gratuitous filth which could easily have incited others. This is such a shame because when we visited their ground earlier in the season they seemed to be a fine bunch of fellows and a football club with a super family following - just as it should be. Whitstable management, get it sorted for your own sakes! We love non league football for a reason. So far as the match is concerned...... we deserved the result, we were not great, they showed nothing, many of their players were bullies and seeking to get our lads sent off. Their best player by a mile was the referee. He was clearly intent on making a name for himself, which he has now done. I suspect it will not however help him in his future development within the game. I have to disagree with others above, I thought Stuart King had a good match....not quite there admittedly but his hold up play was good, his awareness was excellent and he tried to do things. We need that. We were never troubled at the back other than when the ref deemed to offer them another opportunity. Man of the match by a mile - Steve Watt....wow what a player, just what we have needed - no nonsense centre back who does his job, no frills and encourages others around him. He also provides that advice to others, including our senior players - witness to whit and namely, the telling off he gave to Alex for going to ground in a tackle when he didn't need to which nearly led to a goal. The signs are good and the future is yellow and black.....COYS Off to bed now. Night night. Stood right next to them in the second half and didn't hear anything abusive apart from the usual banter. You get offended too easily!!!
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Post by voiceofreason on Feb 27, 2013 19:54:42 GMT
Not so my friend. As I said, I do not mind the normal banter and the chants, but to then turn that into strange and weird chants/sayings advising people amongst other things that they had seen your mother's you know what, and that they had f*****d your mother and your sister were neither appropriate nor football related. I think we can all forgive them for the Chav/Chatham related chants - again that is fine. Gratuitous obscenities however - no I don't think so. Apologies if you feel that is too sensitive. PS - no need for the triple exclamation marks, I did see your comment.
As always, just my opinion.
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Post by insider on Feb 27, 2013 20:33:22 GMT
Thought we looked better balanced last nite, tommy os had a slight neck problem but browny did ok. A word on the ref i think he got the one big incident wrong when the no8 should have gone for an attempted head-butt on phillips. felt for ollie lee on the red card as he plays for our academy and got a bit of stick today.
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Post by stonesforlife on Feb 27, 2013 20:37:38 GMT
Have to say we were average, and they were very poor, but getting 3 points is important, keeps the pressure on dulwich. As for some of the performances, watt was excellent, strong in the tackle and in the air too, brown too played well. Unfortunately mr king has not impressed me, weak comes to mind throw in a bit of moaning and sulking, not for me. But if we want to get the best out of him, does this mean we have to change the way we play, bit late in the season for that maybe. Let's hope we press on now for the title!!!!! Coys!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 20:56:40 GMT
Not sure why people are so shocked by Whitstables 'fans'? Anyone who went there in the Kent League would surely remember the elderly gentlemen who asked Carol if she was a prostitute and the neo-nazi tossers who continually goaded Nathan Paul.
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Post by porkystone on Feb 27, 2013 21:16:31 GMT
Agreed ragstone, atmosphere at The Belmont used to be really naughty, even in the main stand. Seemed to have improved for our last two visits though..........
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Post by redandwhit on Feb 28, 2013 10:12:47 GMT
Interesting discussions to observe and great to see such an involved forum.
As an observer I would only urge that when you witness a few isolated events both on and off the pitch that you resist drifting into the patronising tone larger club are prone to adopt toward the smaller clubs. When observing the pitch all your geese are not swans, those who apply effort or energy on behalf of their own team are not inevitably villains and large clubs who discuss referees usually show convictions of entitlement rather than objective observational skills.
The conduct of Maidstone fans with Leatherhead is going the rounds but I feel tarring all Stones with that brush would be very unfair. Nice club. Don't turn into Chelsea please.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 11:07:15 GMT
I don't think the comments have anything to do with the "size" of MU compared to WT and would have been just the same if people had been offended by Halifax / Salisbury / Brighton fans. That said there is currently a bit of an identity crisis as we get used to having so many more fans and (shock horror) the person who was watching Chelsea on Sky a year ago has as much right to his opinion as the "I was at Lydd" supporter standing next to him. Apart from losing - and banging my head on a rusty stanchion / bracket thing at the back of the main stand - I really enjoyed my one trip to WT, can't remember the fans, do remember them being pretty noisy but good-natured in a game at S'bourne though.
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Post by headstone on Feb 28, 2013 11:29:14 GMT
I don't understand why Tim Olorunda continues to be selected, he may score the occasional goal but he is off the pace, uncomfortable on the ball & can't pass. It was noticeable different when he was replaced by Danny Lye who was talking/organising all the time after he came on.
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Post by tim on Feb 28, 2013 13:01:07 GMT
Yes, well, it is a game of opinions isn't it?
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Post by daveu on Feb 28, 2013 13:26:43 GMT
I don't understand why Tim Olorunda continues to be selected, he may score the occasional goal but he is off the pace, uncomfortable on the ball & can't pass. It was noticeable different when he was replaced by Danny Lye who was talking/organising all the time after he came on. Are we talking about the same Danny Lye? I admit Tim's been looking a bit tired lately but I'd still have him ahead of Danny. Danny is decent back-up but not first choice in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 15:33:43 GMT
I agree with the "don't tar all fans with the same brush" ethos, but when a couple of us when to the Whitstable's boardroom to complain about the insults aimed at Carol and the abuse dished out to Nathan, we were told in no uncertain terms "if you don't f****** like it, don't come here!" If that's the 'official' club stance, what chance do you have with the rest?
Thankfully, that regime appears to have been replaced at the Belmont and, I agree, on the last couple of visits its been a far friendlier place.
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Post by nws on Feb 28, 2013 16:45:38 GMT
Interesting discussions to observe and great to see such an involved forum. As an observer I would only urge that when you witness a few isolated events both on and off the pitch that you resist drifting into the patronising tone larger club are prone to adopt toward the smaller clubs. When observing the pitch all your geese are not swans, those who apply effort or energy on behalf of their own team are not inevitably villains and large clubs who discuss referees usually show convictions of entitlement rather than objective observational skills. The conduct of Maidstone fans with Leatherhead is going the rounds but I feel tarring all Stones with that brush would be very unfair. Nice club. Don't turn into Chelsea please. Complaining abot disgusting comments is not turning into Chelsea. I urge you not to just accept such things. A few points to consider. 1) Most of the complaints on this thread come from fans who were around when we were a small club. 2) Just because you are a bigger club does not automatically make you whining big club fans if you dare to ciomplain about anything. 3) When we had the Leatherhead incident there were Stones fans (one in particular) who refused to let the Leatherhead fans be treated poorly. 4) Lots of us who were not aware what had happened were angry that it had happened and were asking if anyone had footage/pictures of the perpetrators so we could get them banned. I've been to many non-league and league grounds and I am sorry but abusive language/threatening behaviour etc is not on whether you are at Old Trafford, Griffin Park or The Belmont. I'm a little unsure why you are not a little concerned that such things are being pointed out. Simply saying, 'Oh well, you had some that did it the other week.' isn't really a defence.
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Post by redandwhit on Feb 28, 2013 17:29:32 GMT
Interesting discussions to observe and great to see such an involved forum. As an observer I would only urge that when you witness a few isolated events both on and off the pitch that you resist drifting into the patronising tone larger club are prone to adopt toward the smaller clubs. When observing the pitch all your geese are not swans, those who apply effort or energy on behalf of their own team are not inevitably villains and large clubs who discuss referees usually show convictions of entitlement rather than objective observational skills. The conduct of Maidstone fans with Leatherhead is going the rounds but I feel tarring all Stones with that brush would be very unfair. Nice club. Don't turn into Chelsea please. Complaining abot disgusting comments is not turning into Chelsea. I urge you not to just accept such things. A few points to consider. 1) Most of the complaints on this thread come from fans who were around when we were a small club. 2) Just because you are a bigger club does not automatically make you whining big club fans if you dare to ciomplain about anything. 3) When we had the Leatherhead incident there were Stones fans (one in particular) who refused to let the Leatherhead fans be treated poorly. 4) Lots of us who were not aware what had happened were angry that it had happened and were asking if anyone had footage/pictures of the perpetrators so we could get them banned. I've been to many non-league and league grounds and I am sorry but abusive language/threatening behaviour etc is not on whether you are at Old Trafford, Griffin Park or The Belmont. I'm a little unsure why you are not a little concerned that such things are being pointed out. Simply saying, 'Oh well, you had some that did it the other week.' isn't really a defence. A decent dialogue. The reference to Chelsea et al was more about the 'Who are these hicks tone?' adopted in some posts and on the terraces. Stupid behaviour by any fans does not deserve defense. My comments were meant to be helpful to what over all appears to be a vibrant club for the future. My occasional suggestions were intended to support that. The greeter on the gate was very welcoming and an excellent idea.
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