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Post by nws on Feb 27, 2013 9:58:39 GMT
Come on redandwhit...you know you are a hoolie of the first order ;D
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Post by binsey on Feb 27, 2013 10:00:33 GMT
Please Mr Watt stay until the end of the season Mr King watch a long the line and you might not be offside as much. A better performance than the last home game which to be honest could'nt be much worse! Ref the crowd you do notice a difference from a Saturday as a lot of the kids don't go being a school night. The ref was bad and I would rather listen to one of Shaky's jokes than see that ref again!
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Post by overthehillstone on Feb 27, 2013 10:28:15 GMT
Thought we played it more on the deck lastnight, and we look so much better doing that. Steve Watt is a class above and if we get promoted we will need alot more players who have the calmness and skill to make the pass as he does instead of hoofing it!.. The ref?, I think he was the most bias ref I have seen in any sports, how does someone take a slap in the mouth and then get booked for it?.. Maybe he has a years supply of oysters coming his way..
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Post by stonethecrow on Feb 27, 2013 11:11:14 GMT
I think the attendance was pretty good, considering it was very cold and football was on ITV. Our last midweek home game in December (I think), had a similar crowd, so not too sure our ropey home form had anything to do with it. I'd expect similar numbers next Tuesday as Manure v Real Madrid is on telly. If at the next Saturday home game, the attendance is low, then maybe we should be worried :-)
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Post by StonedProf on Feb 27, 2013 11:45:03 GMT
Thought we played much better, but then again we were allowed to by a very poor Whitstable team. There are still problems and we still go for long ball a bit too much, but on the plus side, the defence looked solid and Brown did very well (presumably Osbourne was being rested as he's played almost every game this season). Rory Hill did well on the right wing, which is probably something to do with him being a winger! Flisher was good but to me it looks like he isn't quite back to full fitness after his injury.
I've been wanting to see Stuart and Ade start up front for a while now as I thought they worked well together at the Burgess Hill away game, and I thought it worked well again last night. Personally, I think that King has been a good signing. While he got off to a slow start with the club, he was the probably the best player on the pitch at both the Burgess Hill and Herne Bay away games, and once again he was central to much of our attacking play last night. Yes, he's not the quickest (probably why Ade complements him so well - remember Mo and Lynden?), and yes, he gets caught offside a little more than I'd like, but he's also quite skillful and picks out good passes. If he was the full article, then he'd be playing at a higher level!
As for the attendance, it had crossed my mind that the Burgess Hill performance had put people off last night, but looking at the fixture list, we haven't had an evening home game since the middle of December against Three Bridges, and that attracted a similar attendance.
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Post by stones1989 on Feb 27, 2013 12:32:25 GMT
Completely agree that we played much better. Stand out performers being Watt and Hill. Can't help but think that a if we had a presence like Watt all season we would be looking at a much more comfortable league position right now.
Still think there were some issues in key areas. Neither Phillips or Tim Olorunda are comfortable on the ball at the moment. Which means our centre backs often have to bypass them as they don't have the option to pass along the ground to them. Another thing I thought king was once again ineffectual. Most attacks were nullified as soon as he got involved with an attack. I can see the effort he puts in but he just isn't having the rub of the green at the moment. This is frustrating, because I obviously want him to succeed, but it is also frustrating as game time for Draycott and Booth has dropped significantly since he has joined. During our unbeatable period earlier in the season, these two were on top form. I would like to see at least one of them start against Walton & Hersham this weekend.
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Post by steveh21 on Feb 27, 2013 12:50:59 GMT
Completely agree that we played much better. Stand out performers being Watt and Hill. Can't help but think that a if we had a presence like Watt all season we would be looking at a much more comfortable league position right now. Still think there were some issues in key areas. Neither Phillips or Tim Olorunda are comfortable on the ball at the moment. Which means our centre backs often have to bypass them as they don't have the option to pass along the ground to them. Another thing I thought king was once again ineffectual. Most attacks were nullified as soon as he got involved with an attack. I can see the effort he puts in but he just isn't having the rub of the green at the moment. This is frustrating, because I obviously want him to succeed, but it is also frustrating as game time for Draycott and Booth has dropped significantly since he has joined. During our unbeatable period earlier in the season, these two were on top form. I would like to see at least one of them start against Walton & Hersham this weekend. "Neither Phillips or Tim Olorunda are comfortable on the ball at the moment".... Seriously?!?! Philips player of the season by far so far. Tim... quality. Blimey.
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Post by nws on Feb 27, 2013 12:58:28 GMT
King will continue to be less effective all the time we don't play with a out and out playmaker in the middle of the park. Timmy O is not going to produce a wonderful passing game because he is a player who breaks things up and gives the ball to a playmaker. Phillips is only a playmaker in fleeting moments. We can either change this in the middle of the park or we will become more reliant on our wings with Flish and Rory the Lion. If you are looking at doing things down the wings then you are crossing a lot and this not king's strength. King would have been far more effective with Davisson in the team.
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Post by stones1989 on Feb 27, 2013 13:02:10 GMT
Completely agree that we played much better. Stand out performers being Watt and Hill. Can't help but think that a if we had a presence like Watt all season we would be looking at a much more comfortable league position right now. Still think there were some issues in key areas. Neither Phillips or Tim Olorunda are comfortable on the ball at the moment. Which means our centre backs often have to bypass them as they don't have the option to pass along the ground to them. Another thing I thought king was once again ineffectual. Most attacks were nullified as soon as he got involved with an attack. I can see the effort he puts in but he just isn't having the rub of the green at the moment. This is frustrating, because I obviously want him to succeed, but it is also frustrating as game time for Draycott and Booth has dropped significantly since he has joined. During our unbeatable period earlier in the season, these two were on top form. I would like to see at least one of them start against Walton & Hersham this weekend. "Neither Phillips or Tim Olorunda are comfortable on the ball at the moment".... Seriously?!?! Philips player of the season by far so far. Tim... quality. Blimey. Hard to argue with you that they have played well this year. However. last night I thought they misplaced alot of passes and looked a bit nervy. I think this has been one of the causes for our change to hoof ball in the last few months. They still graft and still work hard but they are not stringing passes together like they did earlier in the season.
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Post by tim on Feb 27, 2013 13:16:29 GMT
As for the attendance, it had crossed my mind that the Burgess Hill performance had put people off last night, but looking at the fixture list, we haven't had an evening home game since the middle of December against Three Bridges, and that attracted a similar attendance. Agreed, but that was the coldest night of the winter and we were the only game on in the Ryman, even thought I was mad as I was walking to the game! Hope you're right Still think we could be more pleasing in our style
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 13:25:25 GMT
I have only recently discovered this Board so this is my first Post.
I have been watching football for over 50 years and last night's refereeing performance was about the worst I have ever seen. He was giving free kicks for normal challenges, ignoring really nasty challenges and often gave the decision the wrong way. At least justice was done in that the Whitstable Centre Half was sent off. With any other referee he would probably have been off in the first half as he appeared to start the game intent on causing trouble, King was taking some real stick early in the game. He was also giving the Linesman near me an ear-bending and at one point the Linesman told him to shut up and focus on playing the game. The players must have been totally confused about what was acceptable and early in the second half Tom Mills said something to the same Linesman along the lines of "aren't we allowed to touch them then?"
I usually find it easy to choose my Man of the Match but for last night's game I am still undecided.
I have watched every home game this season (except Salisbury) and have two general comments. Firstly, why on earth was Davisson allowed to leave, early in the season he was the outstanding player? Secondly, I don't understand why Tim Olorunda continues to be selected, he may score the occasional goal but he is off the pace, uncomfortable on the ball & can't pass. It was noticeable different when he was replaced by Danny Lye who was talking/organising all the time after he came on.
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Post by stones1989 on Feb 27, 2013 13:38:20 GMT
King will continue to be less effective all the time we don't play with a out and out playmaker in the middle of the park. Timmy O is not going to produce a wonderful passing game because he is a player who breaks things up and gives the ball to a playmaker. Phillips is only a playmaker in fleeting moments. We can either change this in the middle of the park or we will become more reliant on our wings with Flish and Rory the Lion. If you are looking at doing things down the wings then you are crossing a lot and this not king's strength. King would have been far more effective with Davisson in the team. Agreed.
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Post by rootsy on Feb 27, 2013 13:59:35 GMT
I thought we looked much more balanced down the flanks and this meant that we played the ball a bit more on the ground out wide. The tendancy is still to go long from a more central position, notably when Graeme Andrews has the ball. If you look at recent games the two right sided defenders prefer to clip the ball forward meaning that the midfield is bypassed. We do lack a bit of creativity in midfield and hopefully as results start to improve we will gain a bit of confidence. I am still very much undecided on Stuart King, he does show some signs but I get very frustrated with how easy it appears to take the ball off of him, he shows too much of the ball to the opposition as he is all left foot when he has the ball, although i will give him credit for put in a good shot across with his right foot in the second half.
A win is a win, and to be fair the ref could've made it a lot tougher as a few of the lads were walking a tightrope for a long period of the game.
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Post by nws on Feb 27, 2013 14:21:47 GMT
That is an excellent post, Rootsy.
One of the main problems down the right has been the sheer number of different players playing at right mid/wing. It has been nigh on impossible for any understanding to build up. Down the left you have two fast players who have built an understanding meaning that the left looks more effective than the right. Rory the Lion not only scored a great goal and put a few crosses in but he also did simple things well. It would be good to see him get a run in the team as he looks to be the answer to the right side problem.
In the centre of the middle I agree that Timmy O and Phillips have played well and battled hard. However, one is there to break things up not pass and the other just isn't a playmaker. Hence, we become a bit pedestrian and a little bereft of ideas going forward since Davisson departed. Personally, I am quite happy with what we are getting and being back home but if you want to win a league then the lack of creativity may be costly, as it is the difference between 0-0 and 1-0 against Burgess Hill.
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Post by dayornight on Feb 27, 2013 16:10:57 GMT
On a positive note we passed the ball much better, got the result despite the referee and Watt was superb throughout. BUT Stuart King, the two mates I go to games with havent rated him from the start and Ive tried to defend him, new club, settling in, scored a lot of goals elsewhere, etc etc. For christ sake Stuart if you read this board, do yourself a favour and stop bloody flouncing about sulking, a lot of us believe you can play but your not helping your cause. Theres 5 other good strikers at this club including Alex Waugh who people seem to have forgotten about and all of them have got a better attitude when things arent going their way. A big price tag shouldnt guarantee selection.
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