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Post by sword65 on Nov 21, 2023 17:02:33 GMT
If Man City are relegated because of financial breaches would they still be entitled to a parachute payment,in my opinion the answer should be no but does anyone on here know?
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Post by hongkongstone on Nov 22, 2023 2:17:50 GMT
If Everton, who have won f***-all but relegation battles are guilty as charged where does that leave Man City, Chelski and potentially the barcodes?
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Post by jdl on Nov 28, 2023 16:52:01 GMT
Sin-bins to be trialled at higher levels of football after grassroots success (+ VAR review)www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/28/sin-bins-football-trial-ifab-referees-abuseBut which level? The PL apparently aren't keen, so does that mean EFL - or us? I was expecting a VAR review - with the possibility of using it less (as nobody I know who watches PL football likes VAR), but it appears to be to expand the use into things like corner decisions! Madness.
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Post by 61666 on Nov 29, 2023 8:59:19 GMT
Expect to see VAR run with artificial intelligence next season. Should make for some interesting decisions...
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Post by daveu on Nov 29, 2023 9:52:15 GMT
Sin-bins to be trialled at higher levels of football after grassroots success (+ VAR review)www.theguardian.com/football/2023/nov/28/sin-bins-football-trial-ifab-referees-abuseBut which level? The PL apparently aren't keen, so does that mean EFL - or us? I was expecting a VAR review - with the possibility of using it less (as nobody I know who watches PL football likes VAR), but it appears to be to expand the use into things like corner decisions! Madness. Sin bins are an attempt to solve a problem for which adequate sanctions already exist. Yellow card for dissent and if it continues another yellow resulting in dismissal and a one match suspension. Straight red for foul or abusive language. The only people to blame for players getting away with it are the referees. |
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Post by sword65 on Nov 29, 2023 11:05:32 GMT
A straight red and 3 match ban would curb dissent better than a player sat on his arse for 10 minutes.
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Post by yorkshirestone on Nov 29, 2023 11:50:52 GMT
The sin bin idea is (I think) designed to stop players getting suspended as I guess a sin bin card won't carry an equivalent value towards the current totting up procedure. Also the impact is immediate and affects the game positively for the opposition there and then so that's a big yes for me. Too often we see late red and yellow cards dished out which don't materially affect the game therefore are inconsequential. Imagine a keeper getting sin binned for time wasting. Heaven!  |
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Post by Scot Stone on Nov 29, 2023 13:19:25 GMT
Imagine a keeper getting sin binned for time wasting. Heaven! Extend Law 12.2 (the goalkeeper 6 second rule) to also include throw-ins (i.e. once a player is in position to throw the ball in ... 6 seconds ...)
Oh and enforce it to the guidelines of actually allowing 10 seconds.
Remember at PVR on 2/5/22, Welling's 3-1 goal? The one where JBW's shot was fumbled over his head onto/over the line by the keeper (89:46) then once the ball had been cleared down field & their forward, when put through on goal, controlled the ball with his forearm before scoring (90:31), & in the goal celebration, took off his shirt before kicking the corner flag into the crowd ‒ NONE of which drew any action from the ref other than to award Wing's a goal! THAT goal? Their keeper was allowed to carry the ball for 25 seconds to the edge of the box: 89:49 - 90:14 ‒ moment the ref shook his head, to indicate play on, to the moment that the keeper released the ball to punt it clear. |
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Post by Benny on Dec 1, 2023 3:05:15 GMT
Various claims Rochdale have not paid their players.
How long must the National League be a dumping ground for financial incompetence?
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Post by sword65 on Dec 1, 2023 8:56:02 GMT
Various claims Rochdale have not paid their players. How long must the National League be a dumping ground for financial incompetence? And that is with a parachute payment. |
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Post by pwoodstone on Dec 1, 2023 9:13:30 GMT
Imagine what the football landscape would be like if every club operated within its means
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Post by yorkshirestone on Dec 4, 2023 10:08:40 GMT
Various claims Rochdale have not paid their players. How long must the National League be a dumping ground for financial incompetence? And that is with a parachute payment. Parachute payments from L2? That's a new one on me, but from looking around for evidence of that, I find that L2 has a salary cap that is equivalent to 55% of the individual club's income. For any club not to be paying wages at that level there must be something odd going on in the business plan. I suspect that if there is serious shitgibbonery going on, Rochdale could find themselves missing the NL altogether. |
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Post by yorkshirestone on Dec 4, 2023 10:11:17 GMT
Imagine what the football landscape would be like if every club operated within its means You must be referring to the time before football was invented in 1992... Up to the invention of football (it's a dig at Sky kids!) there were six incidences of clubs going into administration. Since the massive injection of cash into the game by broadcasting in 1992 there have been 64. I think the root cause is fairly clear. |
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Post by jdl on Dec 4, 2023 10:47:20 GMT
Imagine what the football landscape would be like if every club operated within its means You must be referring to the time before football was invented in 1992... Up to the invention of football (it's a dig at Sky kids!) there were six incidences of clubs going into administration. Since the massive injection of cash into the game by broadcasting in 1992 there have been 64. I think the root cause is fairly clear. Wow - those are impressive stats. Are they reliable? Where have they come from - all levels of senior football, or just the top 5 or 6 tiers? Remembering the football of my youth (c. 1759), it was a pretty shabby affair before the £££ revolution in the 90s. Especially down the bottom - the 4th division was just a rest home for crap clubs, it didn't matter how shite you were, how little money you had, how awful your ground was (and they were!), you couldn't go down. So, generally, you didn't go bust. Then automatic relegation came along and put the shits up them (we went up through Div 4 like the proverbial hot knife through butter, they were so crap), and then the PL happened and huge amounts of money started being spunked on everything (and not just at the top). The result was a vast improvement in stadia, safety, comfort - and the quality of games at all levels - but the risk factor went from practically zero to through the roof. But maybe that was a good thing? You can hardly look back at the 70s and 80s and claim football was in anything other than a crisis (compare and contrast the match experience then with today's), so maybe a dose of reality for some clubs that had been hanging on by a thread for decades was needed? Although, that reality has yet to sink in for many clubs... |
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Post by sword65 on Dec 4, 2023 13:19:49 GMT
And that is with a parachute payment. Parachute payments from L2? That's a new one on me, but from looking around for evidence of that, I find that L2 has a salary cap that is equivalent to 55% of the individual club's income. For any club not to be paying wages at that level there must be something odd going on in the business plan. I suspect that if there is serious shitgibbonery going on, Rochdale could find themselves missing the NL altogether. I believe the parachute payments are for 2 years though I can't remember the figures involved. Rochdale will not miss the NL as they already in it😁 |
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