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Post by shamstone on Feb 5, 2021 18:48:46 GMT
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Post by daveu on Feb 5, 2021 20:30:37 GMT
Just wish they'd stop carping.
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Post by Tstone on Feb 6, 2021 11:38:26 GMT
Now we have brexit the world's our lobster (as Arthur Daley would say)
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Post by 1018 on Feb 6, 2021 11:52:06 GMT
I think that's a Red Herring.
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Post by sword65 on Feb 6, 2021 12:30:21 GMT
We knew this would happen as the Whiting was on the wall .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 14:07:49 GMT
I was going to suggest a nice herby flatfish recipe - but this is neither the thyme nor the plaice.
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Post by nws on Feb 6, 2021 20:31:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 22:43:54 GMT
So that's £80 or £90 billion being spent on paying people who'd otherwise be unemployed and not contributing to the economy, to do the work! Unnecessary admin is the new boom industry! Yes, bonkers isn't it. They could be doing something worthwhile... like building a high speed railway to Birmingham. The one that makes me sick, is all the artificial stimuli to the economy boosting share prices, so shareholders and company owners are getting richer for doing sod all. I'd be much more worried about the paperwork slowing stuff down, and forcing companies to throw away fresh food because it's stuck in that lorry park, than it "costing money". An economy "costs money", that's how it works. Some of this stuff will get sorted out - but a lot of the paperwork (created by your beloved EU!!!) will not go away.
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Post by nws on Feb 7, 2021 7:40:21 GMT
How funny that it is my 'beloved EU' now. I just thought it was going to be silly to leave because this would all erupt. We were told that leaving would cut bureaucracy, get rid of red tape. Instead we find the opposite. This paperwork was all there (for 3rd countries) before, but when we noted these things it was labelled 'Project Fear'. So, in reality, this part of 'Project Fear' became 'Project Reality' and the red tape cutting line was such a lie that it costs 3/4 of what we were supposed to be saving (if you choose to believe the head of HMRC over such knowledgeable people as Nadine 'what's a customs union' Dories). Then there are the businesses that are already starting to fail. I think the EU has its paperwork to protect standards in the bloc. It's very over officious, I agree. Luckily, our red tape cutting is there for imports. We' ve already failed to guarantee food standards, flirted with cutting employment rights and started waging war on our bees by bring back previously banned pesticides. Can't wait to see what March brings.
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Post by jdl on Feb 7, 2021 14:28:02 GMT
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Post by 61666 on Feb 10, 2021 20:51:29 GMT
Grant Schapps seems to have joined the Gavin Williamson 'I don't know what I'm doing' Club, with his 'nobody should be booking a holiday' comments today. Presumably he's too busy to look at personal emails to see the plethora of adverts from holiday companies - or maybe he wants folk to hold off until he's got his own booked? Has he noticed that hospitality has collapsed, along with high street retail, airlines and so on? When the pandemic first hit, the government shat itself over getting enough PPE equipment, wasting we now know, billions in the process. In the next few months, it shat itself over and over again, about the cost to the economy. Then in the summer, in an effort to repair the economy, it encouraged everyone to get out and spend, seriously contributing to the return of the virus in the autumn. Now it seems the reverse is true as we are repeatedly told that lockdown is going on for as long as it takes, with little thought for the economy at all. While it is arguable they should have taken this approach from the start, saving thousands of lives in the process, just what is to become of the economy, one wonders? Is there a plan, or are they back on the corporate toilet again?
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Post by jdl on Feb 10, 2021 21:29:33 GMT
Grant Schapps seems to have joined the Gavin Williamson 'I don't know what I'm doing' Club, with his 'nobody should be booking a holiday' comments today. Presumably he's too busy to look at personal emails to see the plethora of adverts from holiday companies - or maybe he wants folk to hold off until he's got his own booked? Has he noticed that hospitality has collapsed, along with high street retail, airlines and so on? When the pandemic first hit, the government shat itself over getting enough PPE equipment, wasting we now know, billions in the process. In the next few months, it shat itself over and over again, about the cost to the economy. Then in the summer, in an effort to repair the economy, it encouraged everyone to get out and spend, seriously contributing to the return of the virus in the autumn. Now it seems the reverse is true as we are repeatedly told that lockdown is going on for as long as it takes, with little thought for the economy at all. While it is arguable they should have taken this approach from the start, saving thousands of lives in the process, just what is to become of the economy, one wonders? Is there a plan, or are they back on the corporate toilet again? The economy will recover pretty quickly. As soon as the virus is contained and something like normal life returns, the needs and wants will be exactly as they were pre-Covid and people will step up to meet them. It will be a boom time for new businesses and those who have managed to survive the lockdowns. Brexit will turn out to be a much more serious problem than Covid was. If only we could get a Brexit vaccine! In many ways, Covid has created a war-time situation, where change happens very fast. The high streets, for instance, have been dying for years and this would have continued for years to come, but Covid has got it over and done with so we can move on to whatever happens next. Covid, like war, has also encouraged rapid development of technologgies and new ways of doing things - again short-circuiting the time these things usually take. I fully expect this last year or so to be remembered in history far differently than how we feel about it at present - perhaps even as a good thing. (Not forgetting, of course, the thousands who have been sacrificed to the government's inneptitude. Including, I discovered yesterday, our next door neighbour's father - who was two years younger than me...) The only economic problem from Covid will be the increased government debt. But debt is a fact of life these days, and, if you have to borrow money, what better time to do it?
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Post by nws on Feb 11, 2021 13:00:29 GMT
I hit the link and got a brexit advert with Nigel Farage. How ironic.
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Post by nws on Feb 11, 2021 13:05:33 GMT
Grant Schapps seems to have joined the Gavin Williamson 'I don't know what I'm doing' Club, with his 'nobody should be booking a holiday' comments today. Presumably he's too busy to look at personal emails to see the plethora of adverts from holiday companies - or maybe he wants folk to hold off until he's got his own booked? Has he noticed that hospitality has collapsed, along with high street retail, airlines and so on? When the pandemic first hit, the government shat itself over getting enough PPE equipment, wasting we now know, billions in the process. In the next few months, it shat itself over and over again, about the cost to the economy. Then in the summer, in an effort to repair the economy, it encouraged everyone to get out and spend, seriously contributing to the return of the virus in the autumn. Now it seems the reverse is true as we are repeatedly told that lockdown is going on for as long as it takes, with little thought for the economy at all. While it is arguable they should have taken this approach from the start, saving thousands of lives in the process, just what is to become of the economy, one wonders? Is there a plan, or are they back on the corporate toilet again? Is there a plan? Have you been asleep for the last year, 61666? This lot are simply incompetent. Most of the cabinet is there because they will not call Johnson out on his lying and uselessness. Johnson just wanted the prestige of being PM...he didn't actually want the bother of doing things. He is the worst PM we have ever seen and anyone that voted for him must accept the responsibility for swallowing his dishonesty and appointing him.
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Post by nws on Feb 11, 2021 13:26:46 GMT
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