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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 6:35:29 GMT
Refugees and immigrants could actually prove useful. Our population is getting older and lacks younger people to work. This is becoming evident now. I was looking at something the other day that predicted shrinkage of population with more advanced countries struggling for workers. It will be interesting to see how Afghans are treated by a world that has largely shunned them now. I also learnt tonight that Ahmad Mamoud (the one leader still resisting the Taliban) was educated at King's College London How can we lack younger people to work when youth unemployment is at a record high? |
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Post by Dan on Aug 25, 2021 7:44:25 GMT
Yet we have a record number of jobs unfilled with vacancies at a record high, from plumbers, nurses, lorry drivers, hospitalty staff and the list goes on and on.
Please explain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 7:51:04 GMT
Refugees and immigrants could actually prove useful. Our population is getting older and lacks younger people to work. This is becoming evident now. I was looking at something the other day that predicted shrinkage of population with more advanced countries struggling for workers. It will be interesting to see how Afghans are treated by a world that has largely shunned them now. I also learnt tonight that Ahmad Mamoud (the one leader still resisting the Taliban) was educated at King's College London How can we lack younger people to work when youth unemployment is at a record high? Economic inactivity is at near record high not unemployment. Youth unemployment has fallen in the last year. The study to which I refer was looking at the rest of the century so going forward a fair bit. Worth noting that the number of 16-24 year old has been declining. It fell 64,000 in April-June this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 15:32:46 GMT
Before the Brexit Insanity, we had roughly 2 million more jobs than we had (available) working population - all filled by 'guest workers', mostly from Central and Eastern Europe. And a lot of them either went home, or can no longer get into the country to work here.
As for the unemployed - it's far too simplistic to simply match that figure against job vacancies. Anyone who's been out of work and had to report to the Job Centre every fortnight will tell you what they saw there - mostly people who just aren't capable of doing a day's work. Certainly none of us would employ most of them.
There's a steady temporary percentage who are signing on in-between jobs, but the bulk of people you'll see there are at the wrong end of the bell curve. Back in the day, many of them would find work sweeping factory floors, or handing out baskets in supermarkets, but those jobs have disappeared. Whatever state our economy is in and whether we're in Europe or not, we will always have around a million unemployed/unemployable.
It's also misleading to compare unfilled vacancies to the numbers being laid off. In most cases the unfilled jobs are ones that need experienced people used to working in that position - you can't simply replace them with people who've spent the last 20 years doing something entirely different. In time, with training, etc, this evens out, but it certainly doesn't happen overnight.
And then there's the jobs none of us wants to do, where we've relied almost exclusively on foreigners who didn't have much choice. How many people on here are queuing up to be a care assistant in an old people's home?
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Aug 25, 2021 15:43:07 GMT
Would you all, please, f**k off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 4:09:50 GMT
Before the Brexit Insanity, we had roughly 2 million more jobs than we had (available) working population - all filled by 'guest workers', mostly from Central and Eastern Europe. And a lot of them either went home, or can no longer get into the country to work here. As for the unemployed - it's far too simplistic to simply match that figure against job vacancies. Anyone who's been out of work and had to report to the Job Centre every fortnight will tell you what they saw there - mostly people who just aren't capable of doing a day's work. Certainly none of us would employ most of them. There's a steady temporary percentage who are signing on in-between jobs, but the bulk of people you'll see there are at the wrong end of the bell curve. Back in the day, many of them would find work sweeping factory floors, or handing out baskets in supermarkets, but those jobs have disappeared. Whatever state our economy is in and whether we're in Europe or not, we will always have around a million unemployed/unemployable. It's also misleading to compare unfilled vacancies to the numbers being laid off. In most cases the unfilled jobs are ones that need experienced people used to working in that position - you can't simply replace them with people who've spent the last 20 years doing something entirely different. In time, with training, etc, this evens out, but it certainly doesn't happen overnight. And then there's the jobs none of us wants to do, where we've relied almost exclusively on foreigners who didn't have much choice. How many people on here are queuing up to be a care assistant in an old people's home? Your second paragraph highlights a point that many brexiters have failed to understand |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 6:40:55 GMT
How can we lack younger people to work when youth unemployment is at a record high? Economic inactivity is at near record high not unemployment. Youth unemployment has fallen in the last year. The study to which I refer was looking at the rest of the century so going forward a fair bit. Worth noting that the number of 16-24 year old has been declining. It fell 64,000 in April-June this year. Youth unemployment is 13.1% a rise not a fall on last years figures . 16-17 year old unemployment is 33.4 % a 7 year high so how come you think it's going down when official figures quite readily show it going up? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 8:20:39 GMT
Economic inactivity is at near record high not unemployment. Youth unemployment has fallen in the last year. The study to which I refer was looking at the rest of the century so going forward a fair bit. Worth noting that the number of 16-24 year old has been declining. It fell 64,000 in April-June this year. Youth unemployment is 13.1% a rise not a fall on last years figures . 16-17 year old unemployment is 33.4 % a 7 year high so how come you think it's going down when official figures quite readily show it going up? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 8:55:15 GMT
Took my figures from the official government figures perhaps to idiots like me you can explain why the figures are different. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 9:37:25 GMT
Doesn't seem to be a local problem. Both my g/kids got offered jobs recently at their first time of asking.
2 others got school holiday jobs easy enough.
In our neck of the woods, if you want to work, its there to be found.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 11:54:06 GMT
Took my figures from the official government figures perhaps to idiots like me you can explain why the figures are different. Because the only figures he's interested in are ones that support his own argument. You should know him well enough by now to realise anything that doesn't scan with what he believes is automatically wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 15:11:46 GMT
Took my figures from the official government figures perhaps to idiots like me you can explain why the figures are different. If you ignore the mad ramblings of Dave U (who hates facts because they regularly prove his shouting wrong) and post up the link, there is probably a logical reason. It might be different time periods etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 15:16:02 GMT
Took my figures from the official government figures perhaps to idiots like me you can explain why the figures are different. Because the only figures he's interested in are ones that support his own argument. You should know him well enough by now to realise anything that doesn't scan with what he believes is automatically wrong. Sounds like trying to raise old arguments to me. You could always go on one of the supposed football threads, where they start slating people and moaning about politics rather than discussing football |
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Post by La femme de Vic Jobson on Aug 26, 2021 15:42:01 GMT
Because the only figures he's interested in are ones that support his own argument. You should know him well enough by now to realise anything that doesn't scan with what he believes is automatically wrong. Sounds like trying to raise old arguments to me. You could always go on one of the supposed football threads, where they start slating people and moaning about politics rather than discussing football Eat a bag of dicks. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2021 16:14:03 GMT
Oh dear. It looks like ISIS have started in Afghanistan already. Brill!
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