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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 7:15:25 GMT
I'm surprised the arrival of your children didn't cure you of your obsession with being a wind-up merchant, Adrian. You seem surprisingly normal in person (but obviously looks can be deceiving*). * No. 37 on my top 100 cliches). Eh? I swapped a joke with tstone about grammar? If he gets upset by that and starts being abusive then I think you may talking to the wrong person. Not upset - just a bit of banter - isn't that what this board is all about - that and being educated!
I didn't go to a grammar (school) - a good old Secondary Modern suited me, although I did manage an Upper-second Honours degree in later life. Just goes to show if I could do it anybody can.
Chill out! The (football) season has started.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 7:45:17 GMT
Eh? I swapped a joke with tstone about grammar? If he gets upset by that and starts being abusive then I think you may talking to the wrong person. Not upset - just a bit of banter - isn't that what this board is all about - that and being educated! I didn't go to a grammar (school) - a good old Secondary Modern suited me, although I did manage an Upper-second Honours degree in later life. Just goes to show if I could do it anybody can. Chill out! The (football) season has started.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 8:40:01 GMT
Don't answer him, TS, he's just drawing you into a conversation. Grooming, I think they call it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 10:27:13 GMT
Don't answer him, TS, he's just drawing you into a conversation. Grooming, I think they call it. Maybe you misunderstand what a forum is🤣🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 7:16:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 8:18:09 GMT
Whilst soldiers who fought in Afghanistan are sleeping on the streets, sounds about right for this country. France will also take 20,000 in and they just ordered 500 new dinghies. As much as I accept we have to do something to help it would be nice one day if this country treated it's own inhabitants with the same respect as we treat the rest of the worlds. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 8:44:42 GMT
Whilst soldiers who fought in Afghanistan are sleeping on the streets, sounds about right for this country. France will also take 20,000 in and they just ordered 500 new dinghies. As much as I accept we have to do something to help it would be nice one day if this country treated it's own inhabitants with the same respect as we treat the rest of the worlds. Do you think maybe it's a guilt thing from our colonial and exploitation days? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 10:24:59 GMT
Whilst soldiers who fought in Afghanistan are sleeping on the streets, sounds about right for this country. France will also take 20,000 in and they just ordered 500 new dinghies. As much as I accept we have to do something to help it would be nice one day if this country treated it's own inhabitants with the same respect as we treat the rest of the worlds. A lot of the people who joined us in the war in Afghanistan have been deserted and left to their fate through the sudden turn of events but we will be moaning when they don't jojn in another time. I expect many of those coming will be people that joined us as well. We should be treating all people with respect and supplying housing. The covid times have shown we can get homeless people off the street. Not to is mostly a choice by politicians. If people start arriving in dinghies illegally, from EU countries, then we have the right to return them to the last place they came from. Whoops sorry, incorrect. We did have that right. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2021 10:27:03 GMT
Whilst soldiers who fought in Afghanistan are sleeping on the streets, sounds about right for this country. France will also take 20,000 in and they just ordered 500 new dinghies. As much as I accept we have to do something to help it would be nice one day if this country treated it's own inhabitants with the same respect as we treat the rest of the worlds. Do you think maybe it's a guilt thing from our colonial and exploitation days? God knows. Surely it's about decency. I suspect many of these people will have been alongside us in this last war. Maybe years of Western policy aimed at destabilising the middle East to get cheap oil are coming home to roost |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 23:23:59 GMT
Ian Botham trade envoy to Australia. Just when you thought it couldn't get more laughable.
At least some of us can say we saw him score at Maidstone
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 7:31:13 GMT
Star Trek fans will tell you that creator Gene Roddenbury got it right with the Prime Directive - essentially don't get involved in other people's internal disputes and definitely don't give them the weapons to fight each other with.
Humanitarian aid is one thing, but the big powers have happily sent arms and munitions to prop up dubious regimes around the world for decades, while drawing arbitrary lines on maps is also a recipe for territorial disputes, as per the Balkans, Middle East, etc, etc.
Russia tried and failed in Afghanistan, now the West has done the same. Training and resourcing the Afghan army in order for it to stand up for itself against the Taliban looks like being one of the biggest misjudgements in history. Might as well have given all the stuff to the Taliban in the first place, as they certainly will make use of it all now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 9:22:06 GMT
Star Trek fans will tell you that creator Gene Roddenbury got it right with the Prime Directive - essentially don't get involved in other people's internal disputes and definitely don't give them the weapons to fight each other with. Humanitarian aid is one thing, but the big powers have happily sent arms and munitions to prop up dubious regimes around the world for decades, while drawing arbitrary lines on maps is also a recipe for territorial disputes, as per the Balkans, Middle East, etc, etc. Russia tried and failed in Afghanistan, now the West has done the same. Training and resourcing the Afghan army in order for it to stand up for itself against the Taliban looks like being one of the biggest misjudgements in history. Might as well have given all the stuff to the Taliban in the first place, as they certainly will make use of it all now.[/quottrue. Horribly true. The US created the Taliban by arming various warlords, etc during the Russian invasion, and now they've just gifted them an entire army's worth of modern weapons. Basic rule of foreign intervention - if you're going to get involved, prepare to go the whole way. If you're not, don't get involved. We created an entirely artificial 'western liberal' sub-state in Afghanistan (just Kabul, really) that would never be self sustainable. We gave entirely false hope to a new liberal urban middle class, and then fucked off and left them to be tortured and killed. Will we learn from this? No. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 10:23:08 GMT
Star Trek fans will tell you that creator Gene Roddenbury got it right with the Prime Directive - essentially don't get involved in other people's internal disputes and definitely don't give them the weapons to fight each other with. Humanitarian aid is one thing, but the big powers have happily sent arms and munitions to prop up dubious regimes around the world for decades, while drawing arbitrary lines on maps is also a recipe for territorial disputes, as per the Balkans, Middle East, etc, etc. Russia tried and failed in Afghanistan, now the West has done the same. Training and resourcing the Afghan army in order for it to stand up for itself against the Taliban looks like being one of the biggest misjudgements in history. Might as well have given all the stuff to the Taliban in the first place, as they certainly will make use of it all now. Not sure about arbitrary lines. Aren't most of them designed to give the West and especially the USA access to the countries with the biggest oil reserves. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 10:36:21 GMT
As for Sword's point about refugees, our 'problem' is a drop in the ocean. The overwhelming majority of refugess always end up in the neighbouring countries, not in faraway places like Britain.
There are countries all over the world, all much poorer than us, with huge refugee problems - trying to house and feed hundreds of thousands of displaced people, sometimes millions, and often having to do it for decades. And we actually give them very little help.
Lebanon, for instance, a very poor country, has a huge number of Palestine refugees who crossed the border in 48 to escape the Israeli army. They, or rather their descendants, are still there 73 years later.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 23:18:38 GMT
Refugees and immigrants could actually prove useful. Our population is getting older and lacks younger people to work. This is becoming evident now. I was looking at something the other day that predicted shrinkage of population with more advanced countries struggling for workers.
It will be interesting to see how Afghans are treated by a world that has largely shunned them now.
I also learnt tonight that Ahmad Mamoud (the one leader still resisting the Taliban) was educated at King's College London
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