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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 17:59:28 GMT
And, dare I say, any chance of next season starting anything like normally, or 'on time'.
Gosh, a football related post!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 18:19:22 GMT
And, dare I say, any chance of next season starting anything like normally, or 'on time'. Gosh, a football related post! My thoughts, exactly. I've been assuming since the vaccinations began that the season would start normally. But if there is a significant delay with vaccinations, there almost certainly will be a 'fourth' wave, which means new restrictions, or at least existing restrictions not relaxed. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 19:42:22 GMT
And, dare I say, any chance of next season starting anything like normally, or 'on time'. Gosh, a football related post! My thoughts, exactly. I've been assuming since the vaccinations began that the season would start normally. But if there is a significant delay with vaccinations, there almost certainly will be a 'fourth' wave, which means new restrictions, or at least existing restrictions not relaxed. We've vaccinated nearly all the vulnerable people. Unless the under 50s all start keeling over, we're good. International travel is the restriction that needs to stay in place for a long time (all these shitgibbons who think they really need to go to the Med on holiday...) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 22:19:32 GMT
France, Germany, Scandinavia have all seriously bollixed it up. Having questioned the Oxford jab, they should not be surprised that significant proportions of their population are now worried about it. On top of that, Germany says there is now not enough vaccine to make a difference without more lockdowns.
We can only hope that our government has learned the lesson and is telling those Tory MPs who want lockdown to be eased earlier to shut thefuckup.
I suspect the government now realises its gamble on vaccines is working and as long as they tread carefully, there is a real chance of success, with enough voters treating them as heroes and forgetting the utter carnage and chaos they created in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 0:15:07 GMT
My thoughts, exactly. I've been assuming since the vaccinations began that the season would start normally. But if there is a significant delay with vaccinations, there almost certainly will be a 'fourth' wave, which means new restrictions, or at least existing restrictions not relaxed. We've vaccinated nearly all the vulnerable people. Unless the under 50s all start keeling over, we're good. International travel is the restriction that needs to stay in place for a long time (all these shitgibbons who think they really need to go to the Med on holiday...) Depends how you look at it - fewer deaths and people in hospital because the more vulnerable have been vaccinated, or more or less the same number to spread the virus if we relax lockdown because those under 50 haven't been vaccinated. And there are plenty of under 60s in hospital with Covid too. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 0:33:20 GMT
France, Germany, Scandinavia have all seriously bollixed it up. Having questioned the Oxford jab, they should not be surprised that significant proportions of their population are now worried about it. On top of that, Germany says there is now not enough vaccine to make a difference without more lockdowns. We can only hope that our government has learned the lesson and is telling those Tory MPs who want lockdown to be eased earlier to shut thefuckup. I suspect the government now realises its gamble on vaccines is working and as long as they tread carefully, there is a real chance of success, with enough voters treating them as heroes and forgetting the utter carnage and chaos they created in the first place. They are treading a much finer line than I suspect most people realise. Johnson is under huge pressure to relax the lockdown asap and meet his probable dates (now seen as definite dates by most people!), but he is entirely dependent on the vaccine roll-out to enable him to do this. Without vaccinating the under 60s asap, the virus will start to spread again rapidly (as it has done in countries like Germany). Lockdowns only hold the virus at bay, they don't get rid of it - relax and it's back. It will be a race between how fast the virus can spread and how quickly the vaccine can be rolled out. Johnson is gambling on the vaccination rate beating the infection rate. This is a hell of a gamble, as it depends both on the validity of the theory that the virus can be held back, and on enough vaccine coming through on time. There is no second-chance - no fallback position. If there is a significant delay in getting enough vaccine or if it turns out that the virus spreads faster than the vaccinations can hold it back, then Johnson is fucked. He will have to either postpone the lockdown relaxations (or even call a new lockdown), or he'll have to let the virus have its day until all the vaccinations are complete and dodge the questions about deaths and pressure on the NHS. Devil or deep blue sea. They've already prepared the ground for a slight resurgance in Covid infections - let's hope they've got it right and it's no worse than that. For all the good news at the moment, the number of people in hospital is still a lot higher than it was this time last year, when worries about the NHS being able to cope triggered the first lockdown. And, after a year of running at (and beyond) breaking point, the NHS is shagged. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 2:52:37 GMT
France, Germany, Scandinavia have all seriously bollixed it up. Having questioned the Oxford jab, they should not be surprised that significant proportions of their population are now worried about it. On top of that, Germany says there is now not enough vaccine to make a difference without more lockdowns. We can only hope that our government has learned the lesson and is telling those Tory MPs who want lockdown to be eased earlier to shut thefuckup. I suspect the government now realises its gamble on vaccines is working and as long as they tread carefully, there is a real chance of success, with enough voters treating them as heroes and forgetting the utter carnage and chaos they created in the first place. They are treading a much finer line than I suspect most people realise. Johnson is under huge pressure to relax the lockdown asap and meet his probable dates (now seen as definite dates by most people!), but he is entirely dependent on the vaccine roll-out to enable him to do this. Without vaccinating the under 60s asap, the virus will start to spread again rapidly (as it has done in countries like Germany). Lockdowns only hold the virus at bay, they don't get rid of it - relax and it's back. It will be a race between how fast the virus can spread and how quickly the vaccine can be rolled out. Johnson is gambling on the vaccination rate beating the infection rate. This is a hell of a gamble, as it depends both on the validity of the theory that the virus can be held back, and on enough vaccine coming through on time. There is no second-chance - no fallback position. If there is a significant delay in getting enough vaccine or if it turns out that the virus spreads faster than the vaccinations can hold it back, then Johnson is fucked. He will have to either postpone the lockdown relaxations (or even call a new lockdown), or he'll have to let the virus have its day until all the vaccinations are complete and dodge the questions about deaths and pressure on the NHS. Devil or deep blue sea. They've already prepared the ground for a slight resurgance in Covid infections - let's hope they've got it right and it's no worse than that. For all the good news at the moment, the number of people in hospital is still a lot higher than it was this time last year, when worries about the NHS being able to cope triggered the first lockdown. And, after a year of running at (and beyond) breaking point, the NHS is shagged. If you understand Alexander de Pfeffel then you will know he is a classic 'chancer' and tgerefore acting entirely in character. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 9:04:12 GMT
Urgh! You made me look it up!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 12:18:38 GMT
For us Remainers, this is not an edifying episode... Remainers ceased to be a thing in Jan 2020, of course Remoaners didn't though. I still get called that occasionally by ultra thick ultra right morons. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 16:34:37 GMT
Remainers ceased to be a thing in Jan 2020, of course Remoaners didn't though. I still get called that occasionally by ultra thick ultra right morons. Double ultra ? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 0:34:38 GMT
Remainers ceased to be a thing in Jan 2020, of course Remoaners didn't though. I still get called that occasionally by ultra thick ultra right morons. TBH I'm quite happy to be called these things. It absolutely clears me of blame for the ongoing problems. Watch an Adam Curtis documentary called 'The Attic'. Its the 3rd documentary in a series called 'The Living Dead'. To me, it perfectly explains brexit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 21:59:37 GMT
From today's Observer:
Steven Riley, professor of infectious disease dynamics at Imperial College London:
"Those who are vulnerable – mainly because of their advanced age – are being protected by vaccines and so deaths and hospital admissions are declining. Younger people – who have yet to be vaccinated but who are thought to be responsible for most transmission – are continuing to spread the virus, though this transmission is being limited by lockdown."
Which, I could say, is what I've been saying all along - only I won't.
But, if "this transmission is being limited by lockdown" - what happens when lockdown is relaxed? Especially if silly buggery delays the vaccination programme...
Over to you, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 2:42:47 GMT
Urgh! You made me look it up! The name for a 'man of the people'.............NOT |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 8:27:58 GMT
BBC News - Covid: The countries that nailed it, and what we can learn from them www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56455030 Interesting read. Suggests we got one out of five right. Panorama tonight on BBC1 covers the same thing. The big question for all our futures must be - can we avoid the same mistakes next time? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 12:07:53 GMT
We've vaccinated nearly all the vulnerable people. Unless the under 50s all start keeling over, we're good. International travel is the restriction that needs to stay in place for a long time (all these shitgibbons who think they really need to go to the Med on holiday...) Depends how you look at it - fewer deaths and people in hospital because the more vulnerable have been vaccinated, or more or less the same number to spread the virus if we relax lockdown because those under 50 haven't been vaccinated. And there are plenty of under 60s in hospital with Covid too. You're just determined to look at it in a negative, ooh-let's-blame-the-government way, about as balanced as a Zeebrugge ferry. Giving up trying to explain. The whole thing about old / vulnerable people being at high risk of dying (so they've been prioritised for a vaccine) and younger people not being ill at all (so they're lower priority) - but people in their 40s will get theirs in coming weeks, whether it be Pfizer or AZ or one of the other brands that will come onstream), not that hard to understand is it? Actually, thinking of your track record (eg not understanding that a team given a bye in the FA Trophy goes through to the next round), maybe it is. |
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