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Post by Tstone on Oct 26, 2020 15:15:09 GMT
I blame the National League's Executive for keep moving the goal posts.
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 26, 2020 17:40:05 GMT
I just got a refund for the Chelmsford stream and I didnt even ask for one.....fair play to them, some clubs would of just pocketed everyone's money.
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Post by sword65 on Oct 26, 2020 18:00:21 GMT
I just got a refund for the Chelmsford stream and I didnt even ask for one.....fair played to them, some clubs would of just pocketed everyone's money. Like Havant and Looneytuneville.
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Post by jdl on Oct 26, 2020 18:30:45 GMT
I just got a refund for the Chelmsford stream and I didnt even ask for one.....fair played to them, some clubs would of just pocketed everyone's money. Like Havant and Looneytuneville. Never one to bear a grudge, eh, Sword?
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Post by jdl on Oct 26, 2020 18:31:57 GMT
Having seen the highlights, first thing to note is we did play some football, though the first half clearly was as dire as I imagined, given Stonestv only show about thirty seconds. Secondly, never a penalty for them, George wasn't challenging at all and their player fell over. However, the penalty itself should be compulsory viewing for budding takers in black and amber. Both our penalties correct, but we need to find someone new to take them. Overall, Chelmsford got lucky and on another day could easily have lost 4-0. More than a bit of a bugger really and made worse by the terrible live feed on the day. If this is the best other clubs can offer (H&W similarly awful remember), please can we have Stoneslive radio commentary on all future away games. You clearly didn't listen to SL's 'commentary' on the Chelmsford game, then?
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Post by 61666 on Oct 27, 2020 9:17:52 GMT
No, but then nor did anybody else I'm guessing. The only half decent thing about the Chelmsford stream was their commentary team who at least were fairly low key, unlike the gibbering halfwit at Havant. Stoneslive do appear be having problems of late, missing the end of a game with endless replays. Can only hope they get it sorted to restore some sanity to proceedings.
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Post by sword65 on Oct 27, 2020 9:37:03 GMT
No, but then nor did anybody else I'm guessing. The only half decent thing about the Chelmsford stream was their commentary team who at least were fairly low key, unlike the gibbering halfwit at Havant. Stoneslive do appear be having problems of late, missing the end of a game with endless replays. Can only hope they get it sorted to restore some sanity to proceedings. Sanity is overrated 🤪🤪🤪🙃🙃🙃
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Post by jdl on Oct 27, 2020 15:59:03 GMT
No, but then nor did anybody else I'm guessing. The only half decent thing about the Chelmsford stream was their commentary team who at least were fairly low key, unlike the gibbering halfwit at Havant. Stoneslive do appear be having problems of late, missing the end of a game with endless replays. Can only hope they get it sorted to restore some sanity to proceedings. Very odd problems Saturday! They clearly had a working link, but all they could 'transmit' were constant repeats of their ads, so I would guess it was their computer (or whatever they use), not the wi-fi/data - or perhaps the operator. Either way, it was fascinating listening...
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Post by alanweufc on Oct 27, 2020 23:14:49 GMT
I favour the Julian Dicks' approach to pens. Nothing fancy, don't worry about the keeper or placing it, just hit it as hard as you can. Most keepers dive, most of the time, but even if they get to it, it goes in. In all the time Dicks was in the team, I never saw him miss a pen or have one saved. Place it, and, if you play safe, the keeper has a 50/50 chance of stopping it, but if you play clever, you risk hitting the post or bar, or missing altogether. Just whack it in. Having said all that, I missed the only pen I ever took... I remember that was always the approach from Peter Lorimer at Leeds as well.
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Post by nws on Oct 28, 2020 0:50:49 GMT
No point slamming the individual players in private or public for the missed penalties. Needs some serious work to be done but at least we can't get any worse. This is an insanely dangerous thing to say! And you should know all about that
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 9:55:02 GMT
It doesn’t need practice. It’s one of those things. Just crack on and score the next one or it’ll become a mental block. I'm sorry but I don't agree. Doing nothing is no longer an option. Amaluzor has missed two, Rendell has missed two. if you are going to toss the ball to someone else, how do you know if they're any good at it if they haven't even had a go in training? In my view you have to build the confidence to take them and that comes through practice. If you're banging them past one of our keepers for ten minutes at the Gallagher, you are well set to do the same in a match. If we do nothing, the next time we win a pen there will be immediate tension in the side, they won't have a clue who is going to attempt to take it and, if it's one of the players who have already missed a couple, they are going to be short of the confidence needed to get a better outcome. If you practice them you can develop a small portfolio of different penalties that work. I play competitive table tennis and I would say taking penalties is a bit like serving. As a TT player you develop different serves that can go either side of the table or straight down the middle, with different speeds and spins. If you do the same serve all the time, your opponent soon starts to read it and knows how to return it easily so you have to mix it up. A good penalty taker will have at least three different variants and work on them in training. They can also vary their run-up because good goalkeepers often study their opponent's penalty taker on video before a match to see what they do in relation to their run-up. This might sound a bit over the top, but is it when missing the darn things keeps costing you points, and sees you dumped out of the FA Cup? Let's face it, when the shoot-out came along in the cup we had absolutely no plan. Hak ended up tossing the ball to those players who were brave enough to attempt it - unfortunately that included our two centre-backs! It's not good, is it. Further to my comments in the post above, it's interesting to see Lee Worgan's comments about our penalties at Chelmsford, on Kent Online. He says: "Both players went the way I thought they would and fortunately I’ve made the second save. I’ve always done my homework on penalties. People won’t always mirror what they’ve done previously but I try to look for patterns and we’ve got a good media guy here who sends me clips." Just bears out what I said about keepers doing their homework. If you want to keep one step ahead you have to practice them.
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Post by distantfan on Oct 30, 2020 10:56:53 GMT
I agree with the need for penalty takers to practise penalties regularly. They have to be confident putting it into either corner with little adjustment in their set up and run up. If they do that it in training then the manager has done his job. Everyone has their penalties saved occasionally. Missing the goal entirely is unacceptable regardless of whether you've been practising or not.
I wouldn't believe or disbelieve Lee Worgan. Maybe he studies penalties, maybe he doesn't. But saying he does, after making a save, is a smart move. Future penalty takers against him are more likely to hit it to their less preferred side. This increases the likelihood they'll hit it poorly or wide.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 11:27:43 GMT
I agree with the need for penalty takers to practise penalties regularly. They have to be confident putting it into either corner with little adjustment in their set up and run up. If they do that it in training then the manager has done his job. Everyone has their penalties saved occasionally. Missing the goal entirely is unacceptable regardless of whether you've been practising or not. I wouldn't believe or disbelieve Lee Worgan. Maybe he studies penalties, maybe he doesn't. But saying he does, after making a save, is a smart move. Future penalty takers against him are more likely to hit it to their less preferred side. This increases the likelihood they'll hit it poorly or wide. Yes, you could be right about the bluff as there is one major flaw in Lee's quote - he said he guessed which way both would go, but he dived the wrong way for Rendell's penalty!
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Post by yorkshirestone on Oct 30, 2020 12:19:56 GMT
I favour the Julian Dicks' approach to pens. Nothing fancy, don't worry about the keeper or placing it, just hit it as hard as you can. Most keepers dive, most of the time, but even if they get to it, it goes in. In all the time Dicks was in the team, I never saw him miss a pen or have one saved. Place it, and, if you play safe, the keeper has a 50/50 chance of stopping it, but if you play clever, you risk hitting the post or bar, or missing altogether. Just whack it in. Having said all that, I missed the only pen I ever took... I remember that was always the approach from Peter Lorimer at Leeds as well. Older members might remember Steve Butler smashing a penalty high and centre on a muddy night in 1987 at the Athletic Ground during our FA Cup 2nd round (third replay). See here around the 4.40 mark.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 12:43:08 GMT
I remember that was always the approach from Peter Lorimer at Leeds as well. Older members might remember Steve Butler smashing a penalty high and centre on a muddy night in 1987 at the Athletic Ground during our FA Cup 2nd round (third replay). See here around the 4.40 mark. Butts was always a good penalty taker - I don't remember him missing many. If you watch it again you'll see it actually goes in the top corner and not down the centre - almost impossible for any keeper to keep that out. He had an excellent football brain - very clever - that's what you need. Harry Kane is the same, he thinks a lot about everything he does and it shows in his results. If he misses a penalty it's so rare that it becomes headline news!
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