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Post by pinkpanther on Oct 22, 2020 13:35:57 GMT
By a quick and dirty calculation Boreham Wood will be receiving 66% more than their average gate receipts. 85k / 800 fans is just over £100 per fan. Allowing (generously) for 3 home games a month at £20 per fan that equates to £40 extra against an expected total of £60. Anyway you look at it, profiteering from government/lottery handouts sounds like fraud to me. And Boreham Wood are by far the biggest winners out of the 66 from this lottery. Is it a coincidence that that their local MP is CMS minister responsible?I think it probably is actually. My understanding is that he simply signed off the £10m total package and it's down to the National League Board to decide how to divvy it up between its member clubs. It should be done by gate receipts IMO, which will be higher in the National Division for each 100 or 1,000 punters through the turnstiles but not almost three times higher, which is what the clubs in that division are getting. Christmas has come early for the likes of Borehamwood. They must be heavily bankrolled just to compete at that level, so it's either a convenient opportunity for their benefactor to save a load of money he'd budgeted to lose anyway or a load of extra cash to splurge on strengthening their squad.
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Post by jdl on Oct 22, 2020 15:39:07 GMT
There must have been some sort of formula behind this madness, but I can't begin to work out what it was. There doesn't seem to be any consistent connection between the clubs that did well or did badly.
It clearly wasn't done on attendance or financial need, so what the hell was it based on?? My best guess so far is that they worked out what each club had spent (were intending to spend?) on this season, and therefore how much they stood to lose - and compensated them commensurately.
This sounds crazy, but how else was it done? The only other answer I can come up with is on some sort of personal bias, or sheer randomness. No rational answer seems to fit the facts!
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Post by jdl on Oct 22, 2020 15:54:08 GMT
And another thing (this is really starting to bug me!!)...
This a COMPENSATION package - that's its sole raison d'être. Therefore, it should ONLY compensate clubs for the financial impact of Covid (or the government's reaction to it). And the ONLY financial impact on clubs of Covid is the loss of income from having no fans in on match days.
I know this is stating the bleeding obvious, but it needs to be stated because that is clearly NOT what they are doing!
The only way of doing this should have been to work out what the match day income from the average fan is for each club, and then multiply this by the average attendance. This would have resulted in the bigger clubs getting more, of course, and NL clubs getting more per supporter than NS or NN, but not the huge differences they've actually produced. And there should have been an obvious tie-up between gates and compensation - which there clearly isn't!
This is blatant corruption or mismanagement, and somebody should be holding them to account.
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Post by sword65 on Oct 22, 2020 16:07:45 GMT
I read a statement from Chester, one of the team most shafted, and although the chairman is asking questions he also admits it is what it is and has already begun a major cost cutting process at the club. Reading thru the lines he also suspects that after 3 months if fans are still not allowed in then clubs will be on their own with no further money coming from any helpful direction.
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Post by Stonethecrow on Oct 22, 2020 16:41:53 GMT
One of these days swordy you will post something really positive and uplifting. But I won't be holding my breath till then
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 22, 2020 16:44:27 GMT
I read a statement from Chester, one of the team most shafted, and although the chairman is asking questions he also admits it is what it is and has already begun a major cost cutting process at the club. Reading thru the lines he also suspects that after 3 months if fans are still not allowed in then clubs will be on their own with no further money coming from any helpful direction. Jim Parmenter on the radio earlier said thats hes not expecting fans back in stadiums till March at the earliest.
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Post by steveh21 on Oct 22, 2020 16:46:55 GMT
The way Dover are playing that's probably a blessing for their suppoorters.
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Post by sword65 on Oct 22, 2020 16:52:34 GMT
One of these days swordy you will post something really positive and uplifting. But I won't be holding my breath till then I am sorry but at the moment there are no positives apart from a useful team that may be disbanded a lot quicker than it was formed. I dont think young man that you understand the full gravity of the situation. There are ,as far as I can work out , 11 teams with a genuine grievance, one of them Chester are not going to fight it and that leaves 10. York City are not happy but have just received in excess of £2 million pound from a sell on clause so aren't to worried and that sir leaves 9. Nine clubs against and 58 in favour we have been royally screwed and if I read things properly there is no appeal procedure or that is how the Chester chairman sees it. I am sorry this is not positive and uplifting but our very survival has been put at risk and the only people that care are us.
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Post by steveh21 on Oct 22, 2020 16:57:12 GMT
I think you are right Mick, we could see our playing budget cut further. The U23s might become the first team by March ;-)
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Post by Tony G on Oct 22, 2020 17:09:59 GMT
One of these days swordy you will post something really positive and uplifting. But I won't be holding my breath till then I am sorry but at the moment there are no positives apart from a useful team that may be disbanded a lot quicker than it was formed. I dont think young man that you understand the full gravity of the situation. There are ,as far as I can work out , 11 teams with a genuine grievance, one of them Chester are not going to fight it and that leaves 10. York City are not happy but have just received in excess of £2 million pound from a sell on clause so aren't to worried and that sir leaves 9. Nine clubs against and 58 in favour we have been royally screwed and if I read things properly there is no appeal procedure or that is how the Chester chairman sees it. I am sorry this is not positive and uplifting but our very survival has been put at risk and the only people that care are us. Or is that 9 clubs left to lobby the fraud squad ?
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Post by Tony G on Oct 22, 2020 17:11:53 GMT
I read a statement from Chester, one of the team most shafted, and although the chairman is asking questions he also admits it is what it is and has already begun a major cost cutting process at the club. Reading thru the lines he also suspects that after 3 months if fans are still not allowed in then clubs will be on their own with no further money coming from any helpful direction. Jim Parmenter on the radio earlier said thats hes not expecting fans back in stadiums till March at the earliest. Why would he want any fans back, he is making more money by not having any.
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Post by sword65 on Oct 22, 2020 17:19:58 GMT
I am sorry but at the moment there are no positives apart from a useful team that may be disbanded a lot quicker than it was formed. I dont think young man that you understand the full gravity of the situation. There are ,as far as I can work out , 11 teams with a genuine grievance, one of them Chester are not going to fight it and that leaves 10. York City are not happy but have just received in excess of £2 million pound from a sell on clause so aren't to worried and that sir leaves 9. Nine clubs against and 58 in favour we have been royally screwed and if I read things properly there is no appeal procedure or that is how the Chester chairman sees it. I am sorry this is not positive and uplifting but our very survival has been put at risk and the only people that care are us. Or is that 9 clubs left to lobby the fraud squad ? Again Mr G you could be right but should we take that action then they probably have the right to withhold payments and the speed our legal system works at it could be years before a case is built by which time we will once again be history. We are truly caught between the proverbial rock and hard place
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Post by Raymondo316 on Oct 22, 2020 17:23:57 GMT
Jim Parmenter on the radio earlier said thats hes not expecting fans back in stadiums till March at the earliest. Why would he want any fans back, he is making more money by not having any. Funny enough he was even claiming that 84k wasn't enough for them www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08tdwhb3:48:35 mark for anyone who wants to listen
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Post by swampy on Oct 22, 2020 17:30:02 GMT
Why would he want any fans back, he is making more money by not having any. Funny enough he was even claiming that 84k wasn't enough for them www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08tdwhb3:48:35 mark for anyone who wants to listen What got me is his insistence of a public apology from Oliver for daring to question how the money was allocated!
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Post by sword65 on Oct 22, 2020 17:36:03 GMT
What got me is his insistence of a public apology from Oliver for daring to question how the money was allocated! It's because he is a WANKER🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
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