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Post by pedant on Dec 12, 2017 15:08:09 GMT
In another thread a Gravesend supporter posted the following.
"The plan is for each stand to generate income stream.
Main stand - Corporate and function room. Plough end - Holiday Inn.
SWanscombe end NHS lease and Riverside stand social club and bars.
The club would consider artificial if it could accurately replicate natural grass and it was permitted in the FL.
And the planned capacity has been upped to 8500, with the potential to go up to 10,500."
I believe the new stand has reduced the capacity of that side to approx. 600. The artist's impression of the Holiday Inn end shows limited terracing, my guess would be for no more than 1000. So that's 1600 in half the ground so just shy of 7000 for the other half.
I'm neither applauding or criticising, just commenting, but I presume someone has actually planned for these numbers as it has the potential for feeling very "unbalanced".
On a separate point if they would consider something to 'replicate natural grass' it implies its possible to have "unnatural grass".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 13:36:28 GMT
You know your trouble...
Anyway, somewhere else on this forum (my aged brain refuses to produce the required memory) there was a post about Fleet now having too small a capacity to get promoted. Have they shot themselves in the commercial foot?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 16:05:12 GMT
You know your trouble... Anyway, somewhere else on this forum (my aged brain refuses to produce the required memory) there was a post about Fleet now having too small a capacity to get promoted. Have they shot themselves in the commercial foot? Story in last week's KM. They are going to improve the crash barriers and exits at the Swanscombe end to treble the capacity. This is a temporary measure costing quite a lot of money just to achieve the required capacity to stay in this division. www.kentonline.co.uk/gravesend/sport/fleet-take-next-step-136463/ |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 16:10:02 GMT
Isn't it funny that one of the people most affronted by my refusal to visit MK, refuses to call Ebbsfleet by it's new name. What strange and contradictory values
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 17:13:38 GMT
You know your trouble... Anyway, somewhere else on this forum (my aged brain refuses to produce the required memory) there was a post about Fleet now having too small a capacity to get promoted. Have they shot themselves in the commercial foot? Story in last week's KM. They are going to improve the crash barriers and exits at the Swanscombe end to treble the capacity. This is a temporary measure costing quite a lot of money just to achieve the required capacity to stay in this division. www.kentonline.co.uk/gravesend/sport/fleet-take-next-step-136463/The "Kuflink Stadium"  Sorry, but I just can't take that seriously! The whole thing sounds like a cock-up to me - and a £200,000 one at that. They've been trying to get into the NL for years and have known they were in it since last April, so how come they've got themselves to the point where they have to piss £200,000 down the toilet to improve terracing they are going to demolish a year later? If only we had such 'small change' knocking about... |
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Post by moley on Dec 14, 2017 21:02:48 GMT
The "Kuflink Stadium" Sorry, but I just can't take that seriously! The whole thing sounds like a cock-up to me - and a £200,000 one at that. They've been trying to get into the NL for years and have known they were in it since last April, so how come they've got themselves to the point where they have to piss £200,000 down the toilet to improve terracing they are going to demolish a year later? If only we had such 'small change' knocking about... Four points 1. We are where we want, and probably deserve, to be at the moment, I get the feeling that Ebbsfleet want something grander, and yesterday 2. I saw a game on a 4g pitch a few weeks ago and it seemed even better than ours. There are so many examples in history of technology improving through use, when we come to replace our current pitch what we put down will be even better 3. Those that say they would use artificial pitches once they replicate natural grass are basically lying toe-rags who have no intention of changing their dinosaur views. Really they are scared of the new technology continuing to improve to the point where it is better than all but the very best grass pitches 4. The days that the dinosaurs hark back to, when games were often played on grassless mudbaths, are gone forever. Far more importance is attached to player safety nowadays |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 22:38:35 GMT
A question for footballers who play on 3G:
As a non-footballer (excluding one misguided episode, which is best forgotten...) and someone who has never even walked on the hallowed 'turf', I've no idea how different it feels to play on. Obviously it can't feel like grass, but is it that different?
As a spectator, I prefer a surface that is flat and true, and doesn't deteriorate in the winter because I believe (contrary to most of what I've actually seem at the JWW this season!) that it encourages faster, more skilful football. But I understand that most players, given ideal conditions, would prefer to play on grass. Why is this - what is the difference between how the surfaces feel/act to a player?
And, thinking of the difference between our home and away record, do players with a 3G home pitch play better on a (decent) grass pitch? Is it difficult to switch and adapt between the two?
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Post by spurstone on Dec 14, 2017 22:55:22 GMT
A question for footballers who play on 3G: As a non-footballer (excluding one misguided episode, which is best forgotten...) and someone who has never even walked on the hallowed 'turf', I've no idea how different it feels to play on. Obviously it can't feel like grass, but is it that different? As a spectator, I prefer a surface that is flat and true, and doesn't deteriorate in the winter because I believe (contrary to most of what I've actually seem at the JWW this season!) that it encourages faster, more skilful football. But I understand that most players, given ideal conditions, would prefer to play on grass. Why is this - what is the difference between how the surfaces feel/act to a player? And, thinking of the difference between our home and away record, do players with a 3G home pitch play better on a (decent) grass pitch? Is it difficult to switch and adapt between the two? As a footballer, you love playing on a surface no matter what it is. No question. The type of surface is irrelevant. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 23:17:19 GMT
A question for footballers who play on 3G: As a non-footballer (excluding one misguided episode, which is best forgotten...) and someone who has never even walked on the hallowed 'turf', I've no idea how different it feels to play on. Obviously it can't feel like grass, but is it that different? As a spectator, I prefer a surface that is flat and true, and doesn't deteriorate in the winter because I believe (contrary to most of what I've actually seem at the JWW this season!) that it encourages faster, more skilful football. But I understand that most players, given ideal conditions, would prefer to play on grass. Why is this - what is the difference between how the surfaces feel/act to a player? And, thinking of the difference between our home and away record, do players with a 3G home pitch play better on a (decent) grass pitch? Is it difficult to switch and adapt between the two? As a footballer, you love playing on a surface no matter what it is. No question. The type of surface is irrelevant. What about sliding - skin on 'grass'? I don't think I've seen any goal scorers do that diving-on-the-ground or sliding-on-the-knees goal scoring celebration on 3G! |
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Post by spurstone on Dec 16, 2017 1:09:49 GMT
As a footballer, you love playing on a surface no matter what it is. No question. The type of surface is irrelevant. What about sliding - skin on 'grass'? I don't think I've seen any goal scorers do that diving-on-the-ground or sliding-on-the-knees goal scoring celebration on 3G! Not that many actually do it on grass either to be fair. I like seeing a good goal celebration like that don't get me wrong, but I would never have felt comfortable doing it. Although I made some reckless tackles on rather hard surfaces a few times. And it hurt lol. Stupido me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 13:10:06 GMT
A question for footballers who play on 3G: As a non-footballer (excluding one misguided episode, which is best forgotten...) and someone who has never even walked on the hallowed 'turf', I've no idea how different it feels to play on. Obviously it can't feel like grass, but is it that different? As a spectator, I prefer a surface that is flat and true, and doesn't deteriorate in the winter because I believe (contrary to most of what I've actually seem at the JWW this season!) that it encourages faster, more skilful football. But I understand that most players, given ideal conditions, would prefer to play on grass. Why is this - what is the difference between how the surfaces feel/act to a player? And, thinking of the difference between our home and away record, do players with a 3G home pitch play better on a (decent) grass pitch? Is it difficult to switch and adapt between the two? I think one of the main complaints about 3G is the longer recovery times. Because the surface has more give than a natural surface, it's more wearing on muscles and they take longer to recover between games. As a former goalkeeper, having played a couple of times on 3G (all be it only 5-a-side), my experience is that you get far more skin shredding and friction burns on rock hard pitches in August, September and April than from 3G. This probably isn't the case if clubs can afford to properly maintain their pitches, but Council pitches always seemed to have one of two states, mud bath or desert. |
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